Just tweeted David McConnell about his shite stories regarding Rooney and he's bitten bigtime. He's got no answer.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Surprised (or maybe not) that there's been no statement of commitment from Rooney or his reps. Regardless of SAF's public stance, this could be seen as teling; add Stretford to the mix & it could well be that Wayne will be 'seeking a new challenge' (yawn) this summer.
The legendary Goal.com reckons Wayne has told teammates that he could leave United. Hilariously, one of the reader-comments about the article stated:
The legendary Goal.com reckons Wayne has told teammates that he could leave United. Hilariously, one of the reader-comments about the article stated:
Either way, I won't criticize Wayne until he has played badly as a CENTRE FORWARD... It is largely accepted that a lot of the reason he played in the whole was for the benefit of the team, but his best position is striker, how can we criticise? I mean, he shouldn't be messing up basic passes etc, but again being further up the pitch, would have placed less onus on him, therefore the likely outcome would have been a better performance as the things he did badly, he wouldn't have to do so much of.
He has played behind another striker the last 2 seasons now and produced some of his best form for the club in that position. Obviously judging him when he's on the wing is harsh but when he's in the center there's no reason not to criticize him.
He is best as a striker, although Ferguson and many others are raving about him as being best in the hole behind the striker. I don't think that's true as his technique, first touch, short passing and acceleration isn't good enough for that. He isn't a tall strong player that holds up the ball well either - he's actually quite easily shrugged off the ball these days, not like when he was 18 (weird). He still has that killer instinct in front of goal though, so maybe he should be reverted back as a striker. Why not a 4-4-2 with him and RVP as good old fashion strikers against Reading?
Yep, I don't know why are people talking about him like he started to play this position this year. He played almost whole last season behind Welbeck, and season before that behind Hernandez.
Why the sarcastic reply? I was just saying, perhaps Fergie could try that idea. Rooney scored a goal and had 2 assists for Kagawa during that short period. When was the last time RvP scored?
RvP could play the type of game Rooney did last night or vs Swansea and he'd get away with pretty much no criticism on here so well don't bother comparing the two.
He also carried us for half a season, and look in his thread. People are criticising him.
Hardly much of criticism and definitely not the level Rooney, Nani or anyone else would receive when in poor form.
Maybe not, but he should be allowed some leeway since he's been sensational for most part of the season, and a shoe in for our player of the year. He can't win every game for us.
Oh look, it's wr8 attempting to shift criticism from his beloved Wayne onto another player.
You'd think Wayne Rooney might be allowed a little more leeway than he's getting for a middling few months (in which he's still scoring a goal a game), after two and a half incredible seasons and all the rest of his service before that. All players have periods of poor form, and this isn't even particularly poor.
RVP is clearly untouchable for most of our fans though, and I'm not entirely sure why. If he carries on like this for the rest of the season I'd honestly consider him a disappointment. A world class player has to be able to do it when it counts, and the run-in is when it really counts.
This Ferguson character you speak of is the man who was criticised every other week for playing Rooney right up top just a few years ago. At that point Rooney echoed the cries of many fans when he said he thought he played better with the freedom that comes with playing in the hole, and even in 2010 when he decided he had no preference for position you still had people up in arms saying we were wasting him by leaving him so uninvolved.
It's not just that he was crap though. Rooney has been crap for us before... it's the fact that he genuinely looked like he didn't give a shit that got to me.
Usually when Rooney is crap, you see him getting obviously (and often audibly) annoyed/angry with himself... and if he loses the ball, you'd be highly likely to see him chase it down and win it back. Now I may be wrong, but from my seat, I didn't really see either of those things happen as much as I would have expected yesterday.
Usually when Rooney is crap, you see him getting obviously (and often audibly) annoyed/angry with himself... and if he loses the ball, you'd be highly likely to see him chase it down and win it back. Now I may be wrong, but from my seat, I didn't really see either of those things happen as much as I would have expected yesterday.
Not really. I think it's very understandable Van Persie is getting some lee-way amongst the fans. It is after all, his first season with us. He might not be new to the league but there has to be some settling in when coming here, and as first seasons go it's been excellent. If people aren't laying into him after seeing the first patch where he hasn't been scoring, then that's because he's already spent the majority of the season doing just that....I think it's mental you're questioning whether he's done it where it counts....we are 12 points ahead of City with the easiest run-in we've faced for a while because of his massive input.
It probably is his best position - when he's at his best and not half-arsed, which is practically every game at the moment. Otherwise he just ends up giving the ball away all game even if he still provides the end product. 2010 even if Rooney had a poor game it wasn't as exaggerated as much because he was playing as a pure striker.
Sir Bobby:
Cruel and unusual punishment from Ferguson there. Sounds like he has Wayne in a cage.
Are you serious, in one of the biggest games of the season he spends most of it looking like he cannt be arsed, cannt make a simple 5 yard pass to a team mate and just genuinely plays like a 3 legged dog with an inner ear problem and you don't think that is particularly poor?
Oh let me guess, he needs games.......well the title run in isn't the place for passengers so he can find his form in the reserves.
Stop sitting on the fence, Sparky.
It's not just lee-way though, it's outright refusal on many people's part to recognise just how crap he's been over the last month. Players have lulls, even the best (well maybe not the very best, but he's a freak), but could we at least recognise that it is a lull?
And he clearly did let us down when it really mattered against Madrid, but, like I said, it's only if he continues this poor form for the rest of the season that I'll be disappointed. Hopefully he'll get 'injured' on Saturday and get a fortnight off, and that might be enough to see him back to his best, but I can't pretend I'm not disconcerted by the massive downturn in form.
Another difference between RvP and Rooney is at least when RvP is out of form he still gets the basics right, he doesn't suddenly lose all semblance of a professional footballer.
Don't think Wayne has been that bad to be honest in the last 6 weeks RVP, Kagawa (bar his hat-rick) Valencia Cleverley Nani haven't been much better. Think people are looking into it and expecting to much here if i am being honest.
They were all like that yesterday though, and I meant his form over the last few months, which a lot of people have decided has been awful, when in reality it's been a mixed bag, including some massive, match-winning performances.
You lost me there.
It's more than a little disturbing that over the last six weeks our only truly in-form attackers have been Nani, who's not played all that much, and a near-40 year old.
How many games has he played? Maybe I'm just overlooking him unintentionally to be honest I'll give you that one Cina.
You speak as if a decent 10-20 minutes vs Norwich is acceptable for a player of his stature.
RvP hasn't, 'nuff said.
You'de think we were in some Liverpool esque crisis the way some of our fans go on!
We're not in any kind of crisis, because our defenders are in such great form and we have a ridiculous lead, but it is unnerving how we've collapsed from a team who looked nailed on to hit three figures in the league to one which is heavily reliant on a solid defence.
Did a quick check looks like since February he has started 5 games and scored 4 goals the way people are talking is like he is rubbish. Imo quite simply he is our best player.
Wayne Rooney has 10 goals in his last 11 starts for Manchester United. For a player supposedly in dire form, that's a fairly good record.
Manchester United fans who continually undermine a player as important as Rooney do not deserve to support this football club.
Manchester United fans who continually undermine a player as important as Rooney do not deserve to support this football club.
Id agree with that, Id also agree that RvP is in a bit of a slump, the two main differences for me are that RvP Has never insinuated he is bigger than the club and better than the rest of the squad a la Rooney, despite being carried by the club on a semi regular basis, and whilst in his slump he is capable of getting the basics right unlike Rooney who looses the ability to pass to an unmarked teammate 5 yards away.
I think a lot of people are getting tired of the same old cycle from Rooney, Start of season: Out of shape....needs games
Injury 1: Out for a few weeks....Returns...Needs games
Plays like a turd for few weeks
Finds form and plays very well for a while
Christmas: Dropped or conveniently injured.....I suspect due to overindulgence
Has a few more games of subpar performances to find form
Finds form and plays well in the run in......possibly with a mini cycle around march of a minor injury and smaller form finding window.
For a player who rates himself as highly as Rooney does that's not good enough.
That's the thing about the modern Rooney. Back in the day when he was in poor form he'd be sluggish, have a poor touch, regularly misplace passes and so on.
Now when he's in poor form he still has all those things, but keeps scoring goals. (seven goals in eight starts since his last return from injury). It's still annoying, but much less so than back in the day when he could just be a complete passenger.
Now when he's in poor form he still has all those things, but keeps scoring goals. (seven goals in eight starts since his last return from injury). It's still annoying, but much less so than back in the day when he could just be a complete passenger.
Well said John hell 10 in 11 is pretty good for a guy thats not even playing predomintley up top.
That's a ridiculous assertion. He scored a goal yesterday, but almost everything he did after that was shocking... and as I keep saying, it's not just the simple fact that he was bad, it's the fact that he looked like he didn't give a flying feck.
Rooney could score in every game from now until the end of the season, but if he continues to underperform (I can't see how anyone could possibly claim he wasn't poor yesterday) and, more importantly, if he continues to look like he doesn't care, then he is justifiably going to come under criticism.
Yep like this 20-30 goals season after season is tiring Sparky WTF get off his back.
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