Maybe because this nonsense has been made up by the media only after the Madrid match. It's just the papers milking the situation to sell more.
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Well obviously the Madrid match would have upset Rooney and his dick of an agent and strained relationships further.
Sure he might be upset but he's been not played in games before and he's not made a fuss about it. This widespread "Rooney set to leave" was only to be expected after he was left out. He'll still be with us come September 2nd and then the media will begin their nonsense against next March.
These stories were inevitable after he was left out of the starting XI.
I am pissed that soccernet has joined the likes of mail, star, the sun, etc. in printing this nonsense. BBC, sky and them used to be good ones until a couple of seasons back.
I am pissed that soccernet has joined the likes of mail, star, the sun, etc. in printing this nonsense. BBC, sky and them used to be good ones until a couple of seasons back.
I don't believe any of this shite... they are mainly saying 'has been left out of the line-up'... 'bust up in December 2011'... 'relationship never been the same' ... how they get paid for this is beyond me
There is no way Rooney is moving on now. We wouldn't sell to a rival and I very much doubt he wants to leave the Northwest of England. We won't accept an offer beneath £40m, and even then I doubt he would want to move on. Nothing to see here...
Long story short- Fergie said it millions times- he always plans ahead, when he picks players for a particular game he has a squad for the next two in his mind already. Rooney will play against Chelsea that's for sure.
I think it's quite likekly he's off if I'm being honest. Have we ever dropped our biggest star for a game as big as that and it hasn't resulted in them leaving?
I don't think it's a fallout or anything but perhaps Fergie is a little annoyed with Rooney's repeated fitness issues, although I actually think he's looked in good shape this season. Or maybe Peterstorey was right all them years ago when he said Rooney would burn out quite early due to his natural shape.
Or maybe Fergie simply sees RVP as the main man and wants to move back to a 433/451 which does make another striking role a little more redundant.
Personally I really hope he doesn't leave. He's a brilliant player and we notoriously get low fees for our players (Ronaldo aside) but I suppose providing the money is invested into the side then it wouldn't be such a massive blow.... as long as nothing happens to Van Persie.
I don't think it's a fallout or anything but perhaps Fergie is a little annoyed with Rooney's repeated fitness issues, although I actually think he's looked in good shape this season. Or maybe Peterstorey was right all them years ago when he said Rooney would burn out quite early due to his natural shape.
Or maybe Fergie simply sees RVP as the main man and wants to move back to a 433/451 which does make another striking role a little more redundant.
Personally I really hope he doesn't leave. He's a brilliant player and we notoriously get low fees for our players (Ronaldo aside) but I suppose providing the money is invested into the side then it wouldn't be such a massive blow.... as long as nothing happens to Van Persie.
Of course he will play against Chelsea. No one has performed better than him against them in recent times. One of the reasons he was left on the bench was also that he was suffering from sinus a week back. Could be that it flared up.
If thats true then im not sure Colleen would have tweeted the way she did
Nah, I don't think he's leaving. It was a strange decision to leave him on the bench for such a big game, basically the first time it happened, but there's probably more to this story than we know - maybe he wasn't feeling well, maybe he acted like a prick and Ferguson decided to punish him, I don't know. He already said that he wanted to leave three years ago and ended up signing a new deal.
It was not strange at all though. Fergie only wanted 1 striker on the pitch, and chose RVP to lead the line instead for this game, probably because he caused them so many problems in the first game.
Rooney is good at what he does, but why shoehorn him into a side just because of his name? giggs and welbeck did that alonso/wide role better than rooney would of done.
He hardly looked angry when coming on either? he obviously knew for tactical reasons he was not starting, and that he will start against chelsea.
Didnt fergie say he didnt think he was fully match fit also before the game?
Rooney is good at what he does, but why shoehorn him into a side just because of his name? giggs and welbeck did that alonso/wide role better than rooney would of done.
He hardly looked angry when coming on either? he obviously knew for tactical reasons he was not starting, and that he will start against chelsea.
Didnt fergie say he didnt think he was fully match fit also before the game?
Of course it was strange. How often do managers leave their best* player on the bench for the biggest game of the season? The answer is not very often at all. Hence why it is strange.*Arguably.
No. He said it was purely tactical. Which is obviously true. Doesn't make it any less strange thoufgh.
He also said he felt like Wayne needed a game or two.
I was fuming when I saw the line-up, but the performance aside which showed Fergie was spot on I guess Rooney was just tired. Was ill last week, played 90 minutes against Norwich, hell even Kagawa who scored a hattrick was left out. The game plan was quite clearly to bring Rooney on and see the game out or kill Real on the counter... which would've worked if that fecking cnut hadn't acted... well, like a cnut.
When does he never? How many times has Fergie said that over the last few years... Seems like he's in a permanent state of needing a game or 2.
No smoke without fire. All is not well IMO.
A lot depends on if Fergie himself is still the manager in the summer. I'm slightly less certain of that after Tuesday's match.
What the hell? Where did this come from all of a sudden?
if anything, what happened on tuesday will spur him on to stay.
like feck he'll go out on that kind of note in europe.
Sure just like with the Nani situation, always truth in the press
Not sure what you're suggesting here. The Nani situation is far more than just media speculation. Fergie has confirmed there's an issue over a new contract and it would seem to be re first team appearances.
Sure just like with the Nani situation, always truth in the press
You dont think there was and possibly still is issues with Nani and his future?
Doesnt mean either will leave, things can be resolved.
Jesus Randall this is bad, even by your shitty standards.
Coleen needs to keep her trap shut
You think it is normal to leave out one of the biggest players for such a game?
You are being naïve.
Shitty standards as opposed to Crackers?
Difficult to know whats going on here, but as usual a certain amount of lazy journalism is going on. Rooney was dropped because Jones was injured and we needed Giggs in midfield to slow down Madrid. Welbeck and Nani were better options on the wings than Rooney. The bigger story is that many feel that Rooney has not reached the level that he should have reached. It was said a few weeks ago on Irish TV by a journalist that he heard from somebody that knows SAF ( yeah I know, one of those), that SAF believes that Rooney is not as self confident as many great players and thus SAF does not trust him for the big occasions. Maybe this is true, maybe not.
The reason anyone would think he's of is because in their minds Rooney is still this world class player that can't put a foot wrong and therefore can't comprehend why he didn't play. If you could recognise the glaring problems in his game then you'd understand why he was dropped. He had to be dropped for this game. Doesn't mean he's off.
I'm taking the piss Randall. I respected SAF's decisison to leave him out, sure it wasn't normal, but it was obviously tactical as some are saying..
I for one think there is nothing wrong between Rooney and SAF. It was purely tactical.
Madness if we were to sell him, it would be a huge mistake. Let's see if the club or Rooney come out with a statement later today, he usually comes out and dismisses such stories.
There's to much interest in this story for it to be bollocks in my opinion, it's in every single paper and even on the front pages of some this story has been leaked by eiher Rooney's camp or somebody at United.
There's to much interest in this story for it to be bollocks in my opinion, it's in every single paper and even on the front pages of some this story has been leaked by eiher Rooney's camp or somebody at United.
If he is off then you can bet Fergie has someone as good or better lined up unfortunately :/ If he does let him go I think it will be more down to football/fitness reasons rather than a major bust up like the press are making it out. Personally don't think he will go...
I am not for a second saying he will leave by the way. And I am certain Fergie will deny it if asked.
But I am saying there is most likely an issue between Rooney and the club.
3 or so years ago Rooney had Utd in a bad position and they bent over. Now Rooney does not have the same luxury.
I still think he is our best player, but if he is not putting in the work or is causing problems he will be gone.
But I am saying there is most likely an issue between Rooney and the club.
3 or so years ago Rooney had Utd in a bad position and they bent over. Now Rooney does not have the same luxury.
I still think he is our best player, but if he is not putting in the work or is causing problems he will be gone.
Okay, where would you have played him then?
On the LW, we needed someone running down regularly. Knowing Rooney, he would have drifted in leaving their fullback. Same goes with the RW position as well. We needed the unpredictability of Nani there, and I don't think Rooney would have matched that.
The only place where he would have started is Welbeck's, but then it would have been harsh on Welbeck given how he was performing for the past few weeks (barring the goals, of course), and Rooney was overwhelming against Norwich as well.
I think maybe, if that red card wouldn't have happened, Fergie would have taken out Giggs to add the energy of Rooney there in the 2nd half. But nothing of that sort could take place because of that referee.
He should have started ahead of Giggs. Did Giggs have a good game? yes he played brilliant but that still doesn't mean Rooney couldn't have done the same. Since when does Ryan Giggs start getting picked in a AM position ahead of Rooney?
I don't think there's an issue between Rooney and the club or Rooney and the manager. However, to me, it's clear Fergie doesn't see him as important as he used to. Which will be an issue for Rooney.
Read the 2nd line there, Castia.
It is inconceivable that the Wayne Rooney of 2009/10 or the latter half of 2010/11 would have been dropped on Tuesday night but this season's Rooney isn't that player. By his own standards Rooney's all around game, particularly his first touch and passing have not been what we've come to expect from him lately.
Rooney has not been bad but he has not been so much better than Welbeck or Nani lately that he should have been an automatic starter. In the second half against Norwich he showed some of his old self in his interplay with Kagawa but anyone watching Rooney this year would say he hasn't consistently played above 7 out of 10 level. The things you might expect from say Robin Van Persie e.g. brilliant control always, ability to hold the ball consistently and lay it off to a team mate the things in past years you'd have got from Wazza just haven't been there this year.
On form, rather than reputation, Rooney didn't deserve to start and so he wasn't picked. That being said I expect him to run riot against Chelsea on Sunday.
This post sums up my thoughts on Rooney as well. I'm sure someone will come in with his goal scoring stats to prove something. Goal scoring has never been Rooney's problem though. It's his all round play that has seemed to drop year on year. He seems to struggle with simple things like passing, hold up play and retaining of possession. You still get the occasional brilliant performance that reminds everyone of his ability, but more often than not we'd see inconsistency in his season. Fergie once said that Rooney seems to be brilliant only in games where there is high intensity or where he's on the edge. That to me was criticism to Rooney to improve his game and consistancy. I don't think he has. That said, his performances this season have been an improvement over the rubbish he was giving a season or two ago.
The media usually make up shit all the time but the way everyone seems to run with this story makes me feel that maybe someone from the rooney camp is behind this.
If it's true that we haven't opened any sort of contract talks with rooney then he should be worried because we usually don't let our top players go into the last 2 years of their contracts without renewing.
If it's true that we haven't opened any sort of contract talks with rooney then he should be worried because we usually don't let our top players go into the last 2 years of their contracts without renewing.
What did Coleen say?
It's ridiculous how a newspaper can print absolute bollocks and get away it.
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