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Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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I totally agree.
Since those contract negotiations Fergie has built a team that doesn't rely on Rooney. When he signed the new deal he would have been impossible to replace. Now that we have RVP, Kagawa and 2 other good, potentially great strikers Rooney is just a really good player in a very good team.
Combine that with the fact that his next contract will probably be at least as lucrative as his current one (if not possibly another small pay rise) and will probably last until 2018... It is a massive investment for a player who given his fitness issues could fall off a cliff at 31-32.
It's still unlikely to happen of course, but I would see method in Fergie's "madness" if it did.
I agree with you - I think it would make sense to cut him loose in the summer and re-invest the 20-25million elsewhere.
Didn't Ferguson say something about how he looks at build of the parents of players to see how they will age? Doesn't bode well for Wayne Rooney if that is true..
40mil minimum. No way would he go for less.
Rooney gone down a level?
Check out his record pre-Ronaldo era. His goalscoring was inconsistent and he didn't produce in big games all that often.
Post Ronaldo Rooney's production has increased greatly and his production in big games is really as good as anyone's out there besides Ronaldo, Messi and Drogba.
Oh, and he used to miss sitters all the time, now RVP misses more than Rooney.
Say what you want, but Rooney has evolved into a very clinical striker and can spread the play better than any striker in the game today.
United are better off with him.
Check out his record pre-Ronaldo era. His goalscoring was inconsistent and he didn't produce in big games all that often.
Post Ronaldo Rooney's production has increased greatly and his production in big games is really as good as anyone's out there besides Ronaldo, Messi and Drogba.
Oh, and he used to miss sitters all the time, now RVP misses more than Rooney.
Say what you want, but Rooney has evolved into a very clinical striker and can spread the play better than any striker in the game today.
United are better off with him.
This x 10000000
The question about Rooney is as he peaked ,and as he turned out how we expected him to be, i would say yes and no.
Exactly my point. Why shoe horn him into the side to play a role he is not comfortable with, when we have equally quality players in the side capable? Are you telling me Rooney is better than Nani in a wide position? feck no.
Fergie chose to play 1 striker, and that was RVP. He isnt leaving because 1 game he was not in the starting 11.
Unless he has an absolutely abysmal season next year, his value isn't going to plummet to suitors however longs left on his contract, your probably talking £5m at most.
Could probably still shift him at age 29 in January 2015 for like £15m.
Could probably still shift him at age 29 in January 2015 for like £15m.
Absolutely baffled that people are buying this. Saying Rooney will leave after he's been benched for a big game is the easiest article to write as you don't need any actual evidence to back it up. Lazy, lazy journalism, especially with some of the price tags being banded around.
It depends on the club but I'd say we'd be looking for at least £35m. Although his wages might be a stumbling block for almost every club (PSG and Russia aside).
There aren't many players who can perform at a top level for 15 years, even fewer those who look like they will balloon up 4-5 stone the minute they stop training. Even fewer again those who rely hugely on their engine.
If Rooney was available, you idiot owner will pay 50 million right now. He did for Torres, who has never been as good as Wayne.
Fergie said that he looked at players parents build before he buys them not when they are with us.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the next 2 years. Not because he's not good enough, but because I don't think Fergie is very forgiving and once you put in a transfer request in the comical manner than Rooney did, you're just delaying the inevitable. Fergie will win.
That wasn't your point at all! You said he wasn't a skillful player, he is, now you're just running off on a weird tangent about him not being suited to playing out wide. How the feck is that "your point" when your original comment was:
I agree, Fergie never forgets.
At that time, we needed Rooney and couldn't afford to let him to to City.
It's not really about "buying it" but there's a discussion to be had about Rooney's future.
The thing about this story, is that its based upon no "fachts" at all.
Has we not been stiffed the the ref and gone though to the CL QF, then there would have been no Rooney talk in the papers.
Has we not been stiffed the the ref and gone though to the CL QF, then there would have been no Rooney talk in the papers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21699901
Gods, they're all fecking at it. As an aside, is anyone else bemused by McNulty's stats excluding European games? How does an oversight like that get made?
Gods, they're all fecking at it. As an aside, is anyone else bemused by McNulty's stats excluding European games? How does an oversight like that get made?
Does is looks like he is leaving?!
he ISNT fast, skillful or agile. Would you play Carlos Tevez in a wing tracking role? he has the trademark of running around alot, does not mean he would be any good out wide.
My original point was Rooney is not suited to playing a wing role, which lead me to say his attributes are not good enough to play there anymore.
Not sure why you want to bother twisting words, if you really believe rooney is best suited to running up and down the wing blowing out his ass you should maybe rethink football.
Does is looks like he is leaving?!
All three of them look distraught at being left out. They're clearly on their way out
Does is looks like he is leaving?!
I thinks it more a case of whether Fergie wants him to stay or not.
We did do, many times.
I never said that! Seriously, not once did I say anything about him being suited to a wing role, where the hell are you getting this from?
Your comment that I quoted you on was ridiculous, simple as that, stop going on about the wings to me, I don't care!
If Ferguson really wanted to get rid of Rooney, then Rooney would have started against Madrid. A player is worth more when every other club and agent thinks that the club does NOT want to sell him.
Which means that Nani is gone, of course.
Which means that Nani is gone, of course.
Maybe not right wing but he does a more than decent job on the left and he's played a lot of games there this year and done well too.
I don't think Fergie is like the United fans on here. He wouldn't suddenly push Rooney out because flavor of the month Dutch boy is here.
Does is looks like he is leaving?!
That gif is the embodiment of the difference between Manchester United and clubs like Chelsea.
Does is looks like he is leaving?!
Exactly what i was about to post, hardly the body language of somebody who is fed up of life at old trafford and desperately wants a move away
What bollocks. Soon the media will be claiming hes on £700k a week and that we will sell him for £2m.If Ferguson really wanted to get rid of Rooney, then Rooney would have started against Madrid. A player is worth more when every other club and agent thinks that the club does NOT want to sell him.
Which means that Nani is gone, of course.
I dunno, I know it's what all the crap newpapers are saying but... Isn't it similar to what happened to Beckham? He stopped playing him, then he was gone.
Not sure about him leaving or not.I surely hope so he doesn't leave.
But anyone who is suggesting he can leave for 20-25 mil is an idiot.
Rooney is not only a very good player but one of the most known faces in the world.No way will/should he go less than 4045 mil.
But anyone who is suggesting he can leave for 20-25 mil is an idiot.
Rooney is not only a very good player but one of the most known faces in the world.No way will/should he go less than 4045 mil.
Exactly what i was about to post, hardly the body language of somebody who is fed up of life at old trafford and desperately wants a move away
Ah, but, according to Miguel Delaney at least, Rooney doesn't necessarily want to leave, it's Ferguson that wants him gone.
Nowhere near similar. They havent fallen out, fergie has not kicked a boot at his head.
He chose rooney not to play 1 game from the start
where is the big deal here i dont understand.If he wanted him gone he would not be here by now.
It was one fecking game! he hasn't stopped playing him all season, has he?
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