His former agent really fecked him.
Victor Osimhen
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His former agent really fecked him.
Given how popular he and us are there, I'm not surprised this is being given the attention it is
We can just Wout it, sling Galatasaray a few quid and get him now
If we do go for him, we cannot afford for him to flop after already having two expensive strikers that stink up the place. Gyokeres feels like more of a sure thing.
That's a shame, could gala perhaps sanction such a move or is that out of the question as well?
I disagree. For me Gyokeres has lots of question marks around him as to whether he can translate his performances into the Premier League. Osimhen has been world class for a few years now and is physically suited to our league
All we "know" is that he has clause in his contract that he can leave Galata if one of 10 clubs (United one of them) want to sign him.
Can that be another loan? Nobody knows.
I didn't realise he had a 10 club list, nice to know we made the cut too
That is what was published in media regarding his situation. Is it true? Who knows.
All this just goes to show it’s better just to pay up for top talent than paying lots for unproven players. Case in point, we’ve spent 100m + on Hjolund and Zirkzee when just paying 100m for Osimhen in the first place would have improved our squad more than those two combined. Same in midfield - rather than wasting 100m + on Casemiro and Mount, just pay 100m for Rice or Caicedo and the squad would actually improve.
It’s so obvious now you’ve explained it!
Quality wise he'd make a big difference upfront for us. That being said I still don't believe he will join in January. Maybe the only real hope is some deal involving Rashford or Zirkzee.
I think he's absolutely electric
Casemiro was best dmc in the world back then. So exactly signing which you want.
Is he really that good? How good is he at Gala? I dont want another washed up player
We don’t know that Osimhen would do any better yet. Out of all the 100m+ signings ever, nearly all are flops.
What makes you think he's washed up?
He plays for Gala now
There's multiple posts in the last page explaining why he's there.
Got nothing to do with him not being good anymore
Not at his age it wasn’t.
Didn’t Napoli put out a racist tweet, after which he basically said feck you lot I’m out?
Can’t say I blame him.
I’d like to see this happen, could potentially transform our attack, and by extension our season, with his energy and power.
Why not sign both, keep Rasmus to the summer then sell him back to Italy or Spain for £40m, Man United should have the best plus Osimhen can easily play as a second striker or 10, he’s a beast. We need goals, we need to be decisive, we need physicality!
Right now we should get rid of ; Antony, Casemiro, Malacia, M Rashford and Zirkzee.
Sign A Left Wing Back and V Osimhen in January. Then Amorim has the chance to review Garnaucho over the next 6 Months, send Dan Gore, Harry Anass and Wheatley out on loan too and see if they can develop into PL players at a championship team.
If we could get Nuno Mendes and Victor Osimhen this January for £100m combined and sell the 5 tplayers listed for £100m then because of savings on wages, maybe even allow the club to go get a young 22/23 year old midfielder too?
We need to hope that Shaw and Mount sort their fitness issues out by Mid February and then promote S Kone and Collyer to play a few more games.
A First 11 with ;
A Onana (GK)
L Yoro (RCB),
H Maguire (CB)
L Martinez (LCB)
N Mazroui(RWB)
M Ugarte(CM)
K Mainoo(CM)
N Mendes*(LWB)
Amad(R10)
Bruno(L10)
V Osimhen*(CF)
Bench (9)
T Heaton
MDL
L Shaw
D Dalot
M Mount
C Eriksen
T Collyer
A Garnaucho
R Hojlund
Others
New GK
V Lindelof
J Evan’s
S Kone
C Obi Martin
J Fletcher
This would give RA 6 months to access Onana, Mount, Hojlund, Garnaucho, Shaw?
My bet is 3 stay, 2 go and we need 2 replacements in the summer for the two that go.
Evans, Lindelof and Eriksen will all leave on a free in the summer so we will need to be looking at LCB, BTB MF, and another Number 10/AM as well in the summer so that’s maybe 5 to 6 players again.
Yeah certain that's the only way there is any possibility of it happening in January, almost certain he takes the chance Rasmus missed in first half
Osimhen has been world class for one season so far in his career. He's been good outside of it but ~17-18 goals per season (in all competitions) is not world class for a striker whose main goal is, well, to score goals (he's not a Benzema-esque facilitator). And Serie A isn't that tough to score goals in nowadays — for comparison, in 21/22 when Osimhen scored 14 league goals, he was joint 8th (with Arnautović) on the list of top scorers with Immobile, capocannoniere, scoring 27. In 23/24 he was joint 3rd (with Giroud), 9 goals behind Lautaro Martínez with 24. He missed some games to be fair but still, it's not earth-shattering numbers.
That said, he'd obviously be a huge improvement on anyone that we currently have up front.
Is this statement based on something? I'm pretty sure he never played in any of these roles, especially not in a system similar to Amorim's. He's not particularly creative, he's a fantastic goalscorer, a very powerful runner and an athletic/physical beast, it's not exactly the qualities that necessarily make you a great number 10.
I agree. I would go for him only in some kind of player + cash swap deal with Napoli involving Rashford or Zirkzee.
Make that Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia for Cash, Rashford, Zirkzee and Casemiro and we have a dream deal.
Yeah another way of looking at it is 200m for just 2 players.
I also think he's vastly overrated based on the one standout season and I bet most fans who want him badly have hardly seen him play. To me, Gyokeres is almost the safer bet as he knows the league as well as the manager. And if we talk about standout season, well, he had one is having another great season
Who actually make a difference and improve the team, over 200m spent on four or five players, all of whom you try to sell a season later for a loss.
Damn i never thought about it like that. Only one season over 20 goals is worrying.
Think i might switch to the swedish strikers now like Isak & Gyokeres but it seems impossible to get them with their transfer fee especially in January.
So after Zirkzee and Hojlund we still think its a good idea to buy strikers from the Serie A?
On a general basis I really dont like this type of signing. High profil, high fee, high salary. Too much risk. But I dont think the part about Serie A is very important. Oshimen have more minutes in Europe (CL + EL) than Hojlund had in Serie A.
Both Hojlund and Zirkzee was raw in Serie A, and they had done nothing at the highes level. They played for quite average Serie A-teams and was not amazing for them either.
Looking at fee and wages I think Zirkzee was a decent punt. Someone we should be able to sell if he dont work out. Problem was, we needed something more than a punt.
Different profiles. Neither of them were prolific in Italy, Hojlund scored more in his first season at United than he did at Atalanta. Zirkzee benefited a lot due to Motta. Look at his record, he only scored 2 goals prior to his last season there. It has very little to do with the league.
With Hojlund, the guy only became a starter in January due to injuries and finished 90 minutes a handful of times. He scored 9 goals but only two were against a top 10 team. He also was subbed off at half time against Napoli due to being shackled by Kim. Whoever paid £70m for him after half a season of starts is the issue, not the league.
There's always a recall option nowadays, I'm certain they could get him back.
If you go back in the EPL history you'll have the first 'wave' of Serie A strikers (Bergkamp, Zola, Vialli, Ravanelli, Di Canio) did very well only to be followed by almost nothing. Sheva, Balotelli, Cutrone, Kean, Scamacca, Zaza, Ventola....they all failed. Hojlund did reasonably well in the Serie A, we know how he's fairing here same as Zirkzee. Is this down to United being shit? Well not really. Chiesa is struggling with Liverpool as well.
The Serie A is less physical and played at much lower tempo then the EPL. Someone with a strong physique could do an Asterix/Obelix in the Serie A. Just ask Lukaku and McT on that. However they would hit a brick wall in the EPL as its filled with the likes of Maguire, Van Dijk and van de Ven who could go pound by pound with any brute.
Capello summarized up perfectly for Zirkzee
“Go watch Zirkzee play in the Premier League and tell me if he seems like the same player we admired in Bologna – in Italy, he did what he wanted. “In England, he doesn’t even have time to think about the play before the ball is stolen from him. More or less the same thing happens to our teams.”
In my opinion we should put our sight in defense and midfield. That's were the magic happens. In defense we need at least 1 Left wing back. Someone who can create loads of assists. In midfield We need a partner for Ugarte, a cover for Ugarte and an Odegaard as no 10. Mainoo can cover for the no 10s and I'd love to see Diallo as a RWB
Upfront Zirkzee has to go. However I'd rather see us go on someone like Sesko whom we can buy and sell if things go wrong then on Osimhen. His monstrous salary will make it impossible for us to get rid off if things get bad.
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Chiesa struggling isn't a shock, there's a reason he was sold for peanuts. He's been in physical decline for two years. He barely played much until last season.
Lukaku did well in England, people forget this. The guy was scoring goals for fun in England and at one point was scoring as much as Kane. His first Inter spell was the standout, since then he's been on the decline and scoring the same rate as his time in England.
If Hojlund did reasonably well in Italy but somehow hasn't here even though he's scored more?
Hojlund was given more opportunity in the EPL then in the Serie A were they correctly identified him as a work in progress rather then a first teamer
If Lukaku was doing so well in England then he wouldn't be sold by us and by Chelsea.
Now my turn
Who was the last Italian striker to do well in the EPL?
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