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Victor Osimhen | out of options | goes to Gala on loan
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Nah not biting on that one!
Not believable at all! but adding Chelsea on the tweet instead of United would get feck all traction, so I get it!
Not believable at all! but adding Chelsea on the tweet instead of United would get feck all traction, so I get it!
I meant the player quality, not the play style quality… we aren’t playing to his strengths. I am not convinced Osimhen is a priority (but the idea we can’t get something out of him is wrong), i believe Hojlund can only improve. The priority in attack should be some better rightwing options than Anthony…
Hard pass unless it's about 50 mill.
Let me get this right, we don't need a Zirkzee type Striker because he drops too deep and now we also don't need a Osimhen type as well because he doesn't drop deep and needs service to thrive. So please what type of striker do you guys actually want because I'm confused. It seems every player we are linked with isn't what we need according to those on here.
For me I’d take the former because we don’t have that type of player. Whereas the latter depends on being fed chances, a huge 100m gamble when one of our issues is making chances
He has an agreement with the owner, but I highly doubt it's cheap enough to be done by us. (unless it's a loan of some sort)
No.
Use the wrong’un in a player plus cash deal?
Could he play the Rashford role sometimes if we sell him to PSG?
Rotate with Hojlund, perhaps even Hojlund play there on the left side, he has a lot of speed to run at the goal.
Rotate with Hojlund, perhaps even Hojlund play there on the left side, he has a lot of speed to run at the goal.
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This is the most Chelsea transfer ever.
He is either staying at Napoli or going to Chelsea (or to Saudi Arabia).
He is either staying at Napoli or going to Chelsea (or to Saudi Arabia).
Please be true.
I know it is not
I know it is not
But he is a striker who knows exactly where to be in penalty box. Exactly what we need. Killer in the box. He would be amazing signing.
But, i don't see how this transfer could ever happen. Zero logic and chance for it. Huge money involved plus that would mean Hojlund cemented on the bench. When you spend premium money on striker, you don't rotate him. He is there to start every single game.
Please be true.
I know it is not
This is confusing. You don't think Højlund is good enough, but you're begging for a striker who share the exact same weaknesses other than aerially?
He barely scored more than Højlund last season despite playing in a much weaker league and for a team that play to his strengths.
He is heavily reliant on service and is worse at link-up play than Højlund, misses at least 10 games per season to injuries, is 5 years older, will cost more than €100m and has had one good season?
Signing him makes absolutely no sense at all, but I guess it just comes down to you liking him for whatever reason.
Probably in that order. Move to Chelsea, become another victim of the Stamford Bridge graveyard for no.9s, and then move to Saudi.
Because i don't judge players based on do i "like" them or not. I rate them based on what they do on the pitch. Yes, i think that Hojlund (at least right now) is not good enough to lead a line of Man Utd. But i am perfectly happy with having him as second option and see how he will develop.
Osimhen is a top striker and miles better than Hojlund. It is not even a contest (except for fanboys like you).
But hey, don't worry. Hojlund will be our starting striker next year. This is BS story.
Edit: wait, Osimhen has only one good season? What?!
While I don't disagree, this is why this place is insufferable sometimes when it comes to strikers especially. Too many are unable to differentiate lack of goalscoring ability with lack of opportunity. You can't just "add goals" to a team like it's a fecking addition problem unless the literal only problem in the team was that everyone was putting it on a plate for the striker who missed countless sitters all year (Nunez).
Why are you getting upset?
You're just stating your own opinions without backing them up with any evidence. It's not that I disagree with you. I also think Osimhen is a better striker, but they have the exact same weaknesses so it doesn't make sense to sign Osimhen for over €100m who is going to struggle to make an impact on the game like Højlund does. He is no Martial type and similarly to Højlund is reliant on service to get to chances. What are your reasons for wanting to sign him other than "he's top striker and miles better"? You don't seem to have thought out this potential transfer so much and haven't considered at all how we as a team play football, which is why I assume you just want to sign him because you just have a hard-on for him.
You rate players on what they do on the pitch? Okay, have you watched Napoli and Osimhen at all this season? You think that's a striker that should be leading the line for us? You say he knows where to be in the box, but what does that matter when he scored 12 open play goals during a season? It is literally two more than Højlund and in a much weaker league.
He is excellent aerially and great hold-up player, and that is it. He misses a lot of sitters and 1v1 with the keeper, but I'm sure you know this already if you've watched him.
Yes, Osimhen has only had one good season, which was the 22/23 season. The season before he scored 14 goals and the season before that he scored 10. You think that's great? In that case, you'll like Højlund
Yep that’s why they be always been against this signing. Not that i don’t rate him as a player, I do. But, what’s the point in paying such a fee & high salary if we don’t create him enough crosses and passes to score from. Most of the time our wingers cut in to shoot. We would have to change up our attacking ideas.
Injury prone, expensive, would want to start every week over Hojlund…
What’s not to like!
What’s not to like!
There is no way he is coming to us and I am very fine with that. We do not currently need galacticos
Certain United fans need to move away from the delusion that any one, "mesiah" player will save our team. We need 6-7 good, consistent players, not just one star.
Look at Joao Neves. There is no way we should pay 120mil for him, or anywhere close to it. He is a great midfielder but he was bullied by Georgia, just yesterday. What will he do against premiership clubs if the rest of the team is not there? Nothing
We dont currently have any need for luxury players. Maybe in 3-4 years
Certain United fans need to move away from the delusion that any one, "mesiah" player will save our team. We need 6-7 good, consistent players, not just one star.
Look at Joao Neves. There is no way we should pay 120mil for him, or anywhere close to it. He is a great midfielder but he was bullied by Georgia, just yesterday. What will he do against premiership clubs if the rest of the team is not there? Nothing
We dont currently have any need for luxury players. Maybe in 3-4 years
You're thinking of lazio
Not only this, but we simply don't have the capability. We have very little money to spend this season, and are unlikely to be able to make as many sales (at as high a value) as is being predicted.
We could be linked to Ronaldo in his prime and people would still find something to complain about.
Damn getting my lazio and Napoli’s mixed up again. Whoops. As you wereThat would be incredible considering he never played for them.
Bad in the air. Don't want.
It is amazing how people who watch football regulary underestimate striker's positioning and anticipation in the box. And based on that, "service" excuse comes into conversation.Why are you getting upset?
You're just stating your own opinions without backing them up with any evidence. It's not that I disagree with you. I also think Osimhen is a better striker, but they have the exact same weaknesses so it doesn't make sense to sign Osimhen for over €100m who is going to struggle to make an impact on the game like Højlund does. He is no Martial type and similarly to Højlund is reliant on service to get to chances. What are your reasons for wanting to sign him other than "he's top striker and miles better"? You don't seem to have thought out this potential transfer so much and haven't considered at all how we as a team play football, which is why I assume you just want to sign him because you just have a hard-on for him.
You rate players on what they do on the pitch? Okay, have you watched Napoli and Osimhen at all this season? You think that's a striker that should be leading the line for us? You say he knows where to be in the box, but what does that matter when he scored 12 open play goals during a season? It is literally two more than Højlund and in a much weaker league.
He is excellent aerially and great hold-up player, and that is it. He misses a lot of sitters and 1v1 with the keeper, but I'm sure you know this already if you've watched him.
Yes, Osimhen has only had one good season, which was the 22/23 season. The season before he scored 14 goals and the season before that he scored 10. You think that's great? In that case, you'll like Højlund
So you want to splash out €120m for anticipation and striker's positioning? You're talking as if Osimhen's positioning and anticipation is Haaland-like, which is just so far from reality. Other than that, you're not really replying to anything in my post which just strengthens my assumption you don't really know what kind of striker he is. He is a striker that lurks in the box just waiting for chances. In Napoli, he gets that as they have multiple creators, particularly Kvaratskhelia and Politano who aren't just great creators, but also excellent crossers that gives Osimhen an extra advantage because of his quality in aerial duels. It is no coincidence Osimhen stopped scoring goals when Kvaratskhelia was out of form. He wouldn't get that advantage for us, because first of all, we only have one creator in Bruno, and we have no great crossers except maybe Shaw. Our wingers don't provide chances for him as their game is cutting in and shooting (Garnacho, Rashford, Antony).
Now, given that Napoli plays to his strengths and he still only managed to score 14 goals in the league (2 from penalties), what makes you think he would score more for us? It's not like he is playing against excellent defenders in Serie A either (Bastoni, Bremer, Tomori are exceptions), and the general goalkeeping and defending is very poor.
Another thing you should keep in mind is that Lukaku also had excellent positioning and anticipation in the box, but it's not enough. Both Osimhen and Lukaku have very poor balance and fall to ground easily which is weird when you consider how physically strong they are. They also have a poor first touch (as do Højlund btw) which is one of the reasons United fans wanted him out to begin with as it ruined too many attacks. Lukaku was also PL proven but failed for us, scored way more goals than Osimhen does, so why do you think Osimhen would be so good for us?
Keep in mind Højlund scored the same amount of goals as him this season if you exclude Osimhen's two penalty goals, which would only be fair when Bruno takes our penalties. He is also 5 years younger and not as injury-prone.
Unless we are suddenly able to spend BIG this window we do not need to spend on a 1st 11 striker (we could do with a player to rotate in, come on for the last 30 mins etc... although I have no problem with Rashford in this role).
Our finances are likely to be stretched if only due to PSR limiting our spending, we need to focus on defence and then midfield, spunking £120m on a striker just is not on the cards
Our finances are likely to be stretched if only due to PSR limiting our spending, we need to focus on defence and then midfield, spunking £120m on a striker just is not on the cards
Totally agree, and it's also Ineos and SJR's thinking. Two solid summer windows rebuilding a squad, on acceptable wages, offering reasonable fees. No more United Tax and mercenaries. Yes, it will be slightly painful in the short term, but absolutely required for the medium and long term. Add one or two galacticos in year 3 to top it off.
I'm all for it. No more Pogba's at £90m, Maguire at £80m, Antony at £85m. We've had our pants taken down for far too long.
Dream signing.
If people are complaining about Hojlund's technique, they are going to be in for a treat with Osimhens.
These things are simply not true. Osimhen doesn't just lurk in the box. He doesn't go to ground easily, either except when hacked. He scored 15 goals in 22 appearances this season which is a vital frame of context, as he was away for the entire length of the Afcon, and had an injury before that.
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Overpriced and has a stinking attitude if you've followed his recent spat with the Nigeria national manager.
He makes Sancho look like Ned Flanders. Avoid at all costs.
He makes Sancho look like Ned Flanders. Avoid at all costs.
Yes, he is a striker that lurks in the box. That's exactly what he is. That's why you don't see him scoring goals unless he gets supplied in the box. Look at where his goals come from. Are they outside the box? No, they are all inside. He has got terrible link-up play, and unless he has space to run into, he is terrible running at defenders. With his back to goal, he is excellent, but he does fall to ground easily. It's not because he is weak, it's because he has poor balance, and it was the same for Lukaku despite being absolutely physically superior compared to most of his opponents.
I see you bolded out the part where I said that Napoli plays to his strengths as if you disagreed with that. I assume that was a mistake or something, surely you don't disagree with that? He is literally in the perfect environment with the perfect players around him that play to his strengths.
It doesn't matter how many goals he scored in a certain amount of games when the end result is 12 open play goals in nearly 2000 minutes. It's not much better than Højlund who scored 10 open play goals in 2100 minutes. Højlund also scored 5 CL goals in 6 games against Osimhen's 2 goals in 6 games.
As for AFQON, he scored one goal out of 19 shots and missed massive chances constantly. It's not a great argument. The injury argument is not a great one either, as he misses at least 10 games every season which makes him injury prone. €120m for an injury prone striker isn't a good idea.
I've watched Osimhen play a ton and some of the things you've said aren't true. Not to my observation anyway. He definitely doesn't go down easy. He also doesn't have terrible link-up play. These can be subjective and there no stats to prove or disprove this so we can agree to disagree.
However, you asked what guarantees we have that he would score more than 14 for us and I'm pointing out that if he's available for a full season his current record shows that he's good for more than 14 goals a season.
When you compare him with Hojlund, you're also fudging the data a little bit. Osimhen played 1990 minutes. Hojlund played 2172 not 2100. Osimhen scored 13 open play goals not 12 (going by you previously saying he scored 2 penalties). That's an open-play goal every 153 minutes compared to one every 217 minutes. Across an entire season, that's a huge difference. Worth noting he also got more assists than Rasmus.
As for Afcon, he had a poor one in front of goal. But we already know he's much better than the finishing he showed. At 25 he already has Nigeria's highest goals-to-games ratio of all time. And even with his poor finishing at the Afcon, he was involved in nearly every Nigeria goal which says a lot for his contributions outside lurking in the box.
As for injuries, he only missed 6 league games due to injuries or other fitness issues last season, not 10.
I don't think he should come here but you're significantly underrating him.
If you think Lukaku's first touch was bad wait till you watch this guy up close
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