Yeah still say these two are in a different tier to other targets like Ramos/Vlahovic
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Yeah still say these two are in a different tier to other targets like Ramos/Vlahovic
Pressing and legs.
I prefer Kane, better finisher, better at playmaking. But Osimhen is a beast and if he comes I’ll be delighted.
Wonder if he who shan't be named being kept is affecting our move for this guy
How is his hold up play? With Rashford/Garnacho already the ones stretching defences, maybe a Kane is what we need more than Osimhen.
I don't think so, I reckon summer he'll be integrated as a right winger to contest with Antony. For what ETH seemingly looks for in a striker the profile of Osimhen/ Kolo-Muani is ideal.
Don’t think he’s good enough in possession, alongside rashford and bruno I don’t think we’d sustain attacks enough to dominate games. If we signed him alongside Kvaratskhelia we’d be sound.
Wouldn’t object to the Qataris coming in and buying both.
Poor.
Who is this clown?
Probably, after all he is a better prospect
Greenwood will hopefully be released in due course. I don't think many have the appetite for seeing him back here. Couple that with the prospect of Qatari ownership and it's enough to make you walk away from it all.
With regards to ETHs ideal Striker, I have thought for a while that Kane is ideal. I'd personally not like that signing, but I reckon ETH will like it. He's his perfect target man/false 9 that can link up well and score goals. As much as we'd all prefer Osimhen, he's not as sure a thing as Kane in the PL. On top of that, I reckon Napoli are just going to tell everyone to feck off. They're one club that won't be bullied into selling until it suits them, and they're building something good that could see them being a genuine CL contender, perhaps this season.
That’s essentially one player. Both are left forwards who play the same role. Very rarely will they be on the field at the same time. You could flip that and say we only have one of Rashford and Garnacho stretching defences, making us one dimensional. Antony is a ball to feet player, Fernandes isn’t getting past anyone. The no.9 being another slow forward would be iffy. The ideal is a fully fit AM9 (or a player of his skillset) - who is basically a halfway house between Osimhen and Kane in terms of technical holdup and pace.
I mean this guy is having a good season but hes 24 years of age and has been nothing but average for the last 7 years. Granted he has his best in front of him but £100 million.
Look at the mistakes already made.
Sancho
Anthony
Maybe keep looking
Look at the mistakes already made.
Sancho
Anthony
Maybe keep looking
An in form Martial really is the perfect striker for Eth system . The closest to that on the market would be Goncalo RamosThat’s essentially one player. Both are left forwards who play the same role. Very rarely will they be on the field at the same time. You could flip that and say we only have one of Rashford and Garnacho stretching defences, making us one dimensional. Antony is a ball to feet player, Fernandes isn’t getting past anyone. The no.9 being another slow forward would be iffy. The ideal is a fully fit AM9 (or a player of his skillset) - who is basically a halfway house between Osimhen and Kane in terms of technical holdup and pace.
I am Italian
and Osimhen is not a prospective Cavani… more of a prime Fernando Torres, if you like and as such a perfect fit in a Klopp side imho. That said, he would surely add something you currently lack on to your front side.what??? Martial can't press a sandwich let alone a player on the pitch.
Ramos is certainly a player in contention or should be behind the likes of Kane and Osimhen.
Ideal striker would be RVN or Saha that we've had in the past
“But the quality of Anthony Martial is so important for our match, for our game. He has the right movements, his ball security. So, he brings a lot for the team. Pressing, let’s not forget that."
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''But, [be] quite clear, in my way of playing I like the type [of player] Antony Martial is, because he can hold the ball,'' added Ten Hag.
''He is a [also] a target, he can link up, but he can also run behind.
''He has speed, he can finish, and he has good pressure [presses well]."
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Two separate quotes from the manager at two separate instances.
Can see him getting another couple of goals tonight. His price tag will keep shooting up.
That is coaches speak....you've watched Martial play at United and outside of pace and the occasional hold up play, is any of that real truth on a consistent basis??
Yes?
ok...then you see someone completely different than i do and most others
the amount of times you go in a match thread and they are talking about how lazy martial is, he doesn't press....it's abundant to say the least
To be fair, if a big and rich PL club shows an interest to an in-form attacker, he will cost 100m right away in today's market.
To be fair, he did say an in-form Martial. Even if Martial isn't a relentless presser, his ability in tight spaces, hold up play and dribbling ability (even though he has lost that a bit, he used to have exquisite close control) make up for that, so he's pretty much a perfect Ten Hag striker.
All of it is true except the pressing (but it's something that he did improve this season).
Speak for yourself. Martial is not a crazy pressing hound but he is intelligent with it.
I wonder if many United fans are basing their opinion of him on a goals compilation and a useful half against Liverpool in the CL.
The lad is really dynamic and a physical handful for defenders. He can also finish. Great header of the ball. But I'm not seeing a world class striker there, I'm not.
He's a bit untidy on the ball, lots of loose touches and gangly control. Nothing terrible but that kind of thing can bite you at top level where first touches under pressure are crucial. He's 24 now and his technique is not going to get much better.
I do think he'll score goals in the premier league, and also aid our attacking in other ways (running the channels, forcing defences into a deeper line etc), but there's nothing to suggest he'll be getting 30 a season or anything. I like him, but I just don't think he's the top class sure thing many are painting him as. He's a risk, a very expensive risk. Probably one worth taking if we have a lot to spend, but we should at least consider other options, especially if it allows more money to be spent on the midfield.
The lad is really dynamic and a physical handful for defenders. He can also finish. Great header of the ball. But I'm not seeing a world class striker there, I'm not.
He's a bit untidy on the ball, lots of loose touches and gangly control. Nothing terrible but that kind of thing can bite you at top level where first touches under pressure are crucial. He's 24 now and his technique is not going to get much better.
I do think he'll score goals in the premier league, and also aid our attacking in other ways (running the channels, forcing defences into a deeper line etc), but there's nothing to suggest he'll be getting 30 a season or anything. I like him, but I just don't think he's the top class sure thing many are painting him as. He's a risk, a very expensive risk. Probably one worth taking if we have a lot to spend, but we should at least consider other options, especially if it allows more money to be spent on the midfield.
German journalist that is actually quite reliable when it comes to Bayern. He was the first one to report the Mané and de Ligt transfers for example.
I don't know about his track record about other clubs but because Bayern and Kane are linked so much for over a year now, I can imagine that he also heard about your interest in Kane.
I'm not sure if you're talking about in the league only here, or overall with domestic cups and Champions League included but I assume it's the league. We don't need him to score 30 goals a season, because our aim should be to have several goal scorers across the team instead of relying on one centre forward to do the job. Besides, you wouldn't find any striker in the world that would score 30 a season in the league, apart from Haaland and maybe Kane. However, Lukaku scored 25 goals in Premier League only in his last season for Everton where they ended up 7th, so what's to stop Osimhen from doing the same for United when we're a team that consistently create a lot of chances? Our problem is that we often have no player to finish them.
The promising sign with Osimhen is that he has become a better striker each year and for a 24 year old striker who is not even in his peak, signs are good and he's doing very well. I've seen him have bad touches, and I've seen him have world class ones. He's certainly no Lukaku, and no strikers these days are complete. I'd say Osimhen is the one with highest potential and would cause havoc for defenders similarly to Haaland, but he is also the most expensive, so we should absolutely be certain about him before signing him.
I agree with this.
He looks gangly and awkward to me. He might be effective like Drogba though who wasn't very technical or he could be a Lukaku.
The speed of the PL means you need perfect touch.
I've a feeling ETH doesn't fancy him anyway.
I think he'll buy someone a bit off the radar like Kudus maybe.
Perfect touch for what? Lukaku didn't have a good touch, but he was a pretty good goal scorer in the Premier League. Haaland doesn't have a great touch and he's breaking records.
I disagree with this assessment that strikers need to be highly proficient technically. Does Haaland have a world class touch ? Haaland for all his goals this season has been typical of a poacher his positioning, movement and intuition to second balls is what's keeping his name on the score sheet. All the above which have nothing to do with technical proficiency. Osimhen is a much needed reinforcement to a position that has the worst outfield player in with Weghorst.
As fans we can only speculate on evidence to what ETH wants. At Ajax he never had a versatile 9 as a forward more traditional strikers. There's very little to suggest the club are looking for a player in the mould of G.Jesus. Even though this profile of player would help the team perform, every single winger at United with the exception of Rashford is not clinical (jury is out with Garnacho but he has promising signs). On the basis of United's wide players alone the team is in need of a strikers striker more than a false 9, drop into midfield and help build the attack individual.
It's definitely slower. The players in most games move themselves and the ball at a relatively much lower pace and intensity compared to the Premier League for some reason. Any player that decides to put on a sprint for a moment immediately looks like Usian Bolt. Difficult for me to take performances in that league seriously.
Watching Istanbul Başakşehir against Gent. Gent has a player called Orban. He is GOOOOD. Forward, fast, technical and can use both feet. We should have a serious look at him. Gent bought him 31/1 this year. He has already scored 13 goals in 10 games, and is having a hat trick right now (within 3 minutes)… he could be the next big thing
We will go for Jonathan David I think for about 50mil
We've never had any sort of credible link with him, and he doesn't look that good. This is a Fabrizio Romano pipedream
And what credible link have we got with this masked clown?
Ighalo has given him his blessing to join us
Ighalo has given him his blessing to join us
Agree.
What makes Haaland special is his pace and power combined with his positioning, movement and work rate. As a striker you don’t need the touch of Dimitar Berbatov or Benzema to be world class if you have the other attributes to cause problems and score goals.
Amid all of these rumours and links I’d love to hear from the horse’s (ETH’s) mouth on what type of striker he thinks will take this team to the next level.
Either way I will trust his decision.
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