This needs to happen above Kane.
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He is below Kane.
Do you have any confidence whatsoever in the club selling even one of those, let alone all three?
At a similar age, Kane was a nobody
At Kane's age Rooney was pretty much finished. Kluivert was fiinished even younger at 28. It obviously doesn't matter since young players playing well isn't in any way informative of their longevity at the highest levels.
But wouldn't we rather prefer a young player presently at very high levels, and can develop even further under ETH to seemingly world class levels? That was my point. And also just blanket statements saying that " X is below Y" without taking all factors into consideration really get my goat.
Kane is one of the best PL strikers of all time but may not be necessarily what we need when we are rebuilding.
Ultimately, ETH has to make a call on who to buy. If he gets Osimhen then great. If he gets Kane then great. I trust the manager.
Sorry it gets your goat but I did not realise I had to explain every factor to you but let me put it this way:
I think the last thing we need next season is to splash another massive amount of cash on a young player that is doing well in another league and have to wait another unidentifiable time for him to adapt to a new culture and pace of the game and blah,blah,blah.
We have a young strike force that we can be fairly confident will improve next season and to bring an exceedingly good striker that is Premier league proven should compliment that nicely and while age is not on Harry's side I would say to get 3 yrs out of him tapering off a little bit he will still be a very good buy.
Kane is too old and has no upside when selling.
You can buy a few of these types of profiles but we already have a few like casemiro and Varane. We need to be buying young to fill the team with people who can play at their current or even better levels for the next 5 years. Not just 1-2 seasons
You can buy a few of these types of profiles but we already have a few like casemiro and Varane. We need to be buying young to fill the team with people who can play at their current or even better levels for the next 5 years. Not just 1-2 seasons
I've a feeling he'll buy someone less expected. Neither Kane or Osimhen.
I'm unsure on Osimhen. He looks awkward to me.
We won’t sign Kane in my opinion
Just looking at the stats on sky.
Bruno 3rd most chances created in the league only a few behind De Bryune.
Erickson 3rd most assists again a few behind De Bruyne.
City goals scored 67, us 41. I think the biggest difference being that they have a proper goal scorer at centre forward. If we actually want to compete we need a striker.
Bruno 3rd most chances created in the league only a few behind De Bryune.
Erickson 3rd most assists again a few behind De Bruyne.
City goals scored 67, us 41. I think the biggest difference being that they have a proper goal scorer at centre forward. If we actually want to compete we need a striker.
I think he will go to Chelsea
Come on he is at least level
Could live with a Ramos/Kolo-Muani IF by some miracle Rapha and Casa can persuade Benzema
I think ETH is flexible and likes players who can play in different positions.
He might buy someone who can also play wide and then have them interchange with Rashford.
I'm unsure on Osimhen. Napoli are very dominant this year and Serie A isn't the highest standard anyway.
I guess that's where scouts earn their money, they watch lots of games.
Even in his highlight videos I find him not too impressive. He's brilliant physically but doesn't look silky, maybe it doesn't matter.
Drogba was similar and I liked him a lot.
No chance. Especially if they don’t get top 4. I heard ighalo has told him if he moves to the prem then join us.
Much like Haaland and Bellingham earlier in their careers this is our one chance to get him
Doesn’t matter about the silk if he has that raw power and bullying that Drogba possessed particularly in those big games at Chelsea
Drogba was a different level with his back to goal.
Osimhen seems more about making runs in behind with some physical ability to hold players off.
Osimhen seems more about making runs in behind with some physical ability to hold players off.
Top clubs tend to get top players without champions league. I don't think Osimehen has any preference and would take any of the big clubs in the Premier league. Why I think Chelsea will get him is because they will lay the ridiculous price Napoli sets
Surely if he’s ambitious though he only has to look at the state of that club to know that it would be the wrong move.
How reliable is Florian Plattenberg?
Not sure he is the DDG replacement we are looking for?!
Would be good enough with the ball on his feet! And most probably better at catching crosses.Not sure he is the DDG replacement we are looking for?!
Saw one of those ultra specific youtube compilations displaying his love of shooting from tight angles and I'm now convinced he would drive me mad if he played for us.
I have my question marks on how he jives with Marcus. Marcus is obviously transitioned into a tip of the spear, end of movement player getting into positions to finish off moves and score. Whoever is closest to a Wayne Rooney type player is the one to go for and look at the attacking line take another step forward. Just that Kane and Benzema have their age issues and other things as well (Kane has Levy and Benzema is much more short term than Kane). Cavani was underrated with his ability to get on the ball and quickly spread play and make runs into/towards the box.
The CF has to be able to do a little bit of everything and somethings at a very good to high level live scoring, getting others involved when necessary, and be another viable threat next to Marcus. Work rate would be important too. I see Osimhen in the vain of Haaland and not so sure that's a good fit for United with Marcus.
The CF has to be able to do a little bit of everything and somethings at a very good to high level live scoring, getting others involved when necessary, and be another viable threat next to Marcus. Work rate would be important too. I see Osimhen in the vain of Haaland and not so sure that's a good fit for United with Marcus.
He seems to be the forward with the most hype at the moment - I understand his strenghts, but can someone break down his weaknesses for me?
It seems to me that his weaknesses are essentially Jesus's strengths, and Jesus has slotted in seamlessly and hit the ground running with his selfless link-up play. Could Osimhen do the same thing?
I feel like his game is very different to Jesus's, and I can't tell if that would be a good or bad thing for us. Right now I'm leaning towards bad.
It seems to me that his weaknesses are essentially Jesus's strengths, and Jesus has slotted in seamlessly and hit the ground running with his selfless link-up play. Could Osimhen do the same thing?
I feel like his game is very different to Jesus's, and I can't tell if that would be a good or bad thing for us. Right now I'm leaning towards bad.
Honestly him and Haaland are fairly similar. Haaland is more of a physical freak, but Osimhen's superb in that regard too.
For some reason FBref has gotten rid of pressures p90 for attackers, but I believe Osimhen works/presses more from the front than Haaland does, but Haaland overperforms his xG more.
But they both have similar weaknesses. Not really a striker to create for others and they don't contribute that much outside of the box I'd say compared to someone like a Benzema/Kane.
I haven't watched Osimhen that much, so someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but his link-up play/passing is pretty much similar to Haaland's the last time I watched him.
Him and Jesus aren't alike at all.
He is uncatchable in Serie A but you all know it is a more tactical / slower league, which suits his sharpness perfectly, when coupled with the possession-based yet extremely transitional Spallettiball. It remains to be seen how he fares in the one vs one/two/three against comparable athletes such the most he will find in the PL. It also remains to be seen how he fares in a more pragmatic / lower tempo setup, if you want him at United.
If you want a comparison, think of Immobile, who is a transitional monster yet pretty limited outside of that (as his abroad and NT experience proved too well). Osimhen has a different engine for sure but his buyer will be paying for peak (150m according to the latest words of De Laurentiis) not for potential (half that sum) with, say, the currently subdued Vlahovic who has all the tools but not the finished article yet.
If you want a comparison, think of Immobile, who is a transitional monster yet pretty limited outside of that (as his abroad and NT experience proved too well). Osimhen has a different engine for sure but his buyer will be paying for peak (150m according to the latest words of De Laurentiis) not for potential (half that sum) with, say, the currently subdued Vlahovic who has all the tools but not the finished article yet.
Presuming that you are Italian but is it still accurate to call the Italian league a more tactical and slower league? I think Atalanta, Napoli and Lazio teams in recent years have played really quick paced football that is as exciting as pretty much any top league elsewhere is playing.
I think Osimhen is always going to get goals even outside of counter-attacks due to his heading ability and because he's so good off the ball. He also makes runs which tear defences all over the place but unlike a lot of our other forwards, he isn't afraid to run into congested areas where he will be required to compete. Our other players tend to shy away from these runs preferring to move where there's space instead. I always wished we could have signed Cavani when he was in his mid-20s and I feel that Osimhen could offer similar qualities.
Feel like the only thing that Kane has over him is the playmaking ability,yes he isn't Premier League proven but that's not essential
That, and finishing.
In fact you could turn it round and say the only things Osimhen has over Kane are age and speed.
Be delighted with either.
I feel Osimhen can finish well enough
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