Victor Gyökeres

He can handle the English football as he did ok at Coventry, bagging around 20 goals.
 
I think he is going to be our only signing from this Sporting squad. Amorim would have made a vow to only nick one talent and that is Gyokeres, its also why he did Gyo's cover jaw with fingers celebration thinggy during first interview, its an easter age.

I also predict he will be the next Scandinavian Welbeck.
 
I’d see how he does with Hojlund before spending 80m we don’t have on this guy.

Bad Dost and Mario Jardel had insane scoring records at sporting Lisbon
 
tenpoless said:
I think he is going to be our only signing from this Sporting squad. Amorim would have made a vow to only nick one talent and that is Gyokeres, its also why he did Gyo's cover jaw with fingers celebration thinggy during first interview, its an easter age.

I also predict he will be the next Scandinavian Welbeck.
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What does that mean? Welbeck has never scored more than 9 goals in the league in a season.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Prioritise Liam Delap, we aren't getting this guy.
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Would be great and fairly cheap too, after Ipswich go inevitably down. SHades of Young Harry Kane and similar to Gyokeres as well, 5 years younger. Ethan Ferguson without injuries.
 
Lentwood said:
Gyokeres will be 27 by the Summer, I just don't see INEOS buying players of this age / profile.
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27 is a good age for someone who seems to be a late bloomer, to be fair. Especially considering he hasn't suffered a lot of injuries and has played only about 20,000 minutes of senior football for club and country combined. Lewandowski was 26 years old when he signed for Bayern Munich and he ended up scoring close to 350 goals for them. Drogba was 26 years old when he signed for Chelsea and he ended up scoring close to 160 goals for them. Cavani was 26 years old when he signed for Paris Saint-Germain and he ended up scoring 200 goals for them. Not arguing that he is good enough in terms of what we need (and will need), or that Gyökeres will be as productive (or transformative) as those three hand-picked, best-case-scenario exemplars, just that one must always assess players on an individual basis and the age stereotype doesn't appear to be a sound disqualifier in isolation.
 
There's absolutely no guarantee that Gyökeres would start banging in goals for us. He might be a late bloomer but as we all know, carving it up in a lower league does not mean he or anyone can translate that to the EPL.

I'd like to see us play with far more control, possession and genuine threat - and see our forward players scoring regularly - before throwing another wad of cash on him.
 
Lentwood said:
Gyokeres will be 27 by the Summer, I just don't see INEOS buying players of this age / profile.
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If he is the right player, 27 really shouldn't be scaring us off. I'd much rather go with established at 27 than potential at 21.
 
JE-365 said:
striker who is in their prime age
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People somtimes imagine late 20's to be players' prime years, but for most strikers their peak goalscoring years come in their early/mid 20's.

For example, here are the top ten single season returns in the PL and the age those players were at the start of that season (August 1st).

Haaland - 22 years old.
Cole - 21 years old
Shearer - 23 years old.
Salah - 25 years old.
Shearer - 22 years old
Shearer - 24 years old
Ronaldo - 22 years old
Suarez - 26 years old
Phillps - 26 years old
Henry - 25 years old

26 the oldest, average age 23.

Gyokeres may be an outlier. And obviously even if not at their actual peak a lot of those striker kept scoring plenty of goals for years after.

But generally speaking if you sign a 27 year old striker in the hope that you'll be the team to see their prime years, you're taking a massive risk. Because for the vast majority of strikers their best goalscoring days are already behind them at that point, and you expect their goals to decline.

If a team wants to sign Gyokeres, they should be assuming there will be a significant drop off on his goal returns. Due to his age, his overperformance at Sporting and the fact that that overperformance came in a weaker league where physical strikers have traditionally done well.

The question is if, even taking all that into account, he'll score enough goals over the next several years to still be worth signing. Which he may well do. But if the deal doesn't work out, nobody can claim there weren't any red flags.

Even more so if (like us) you're a team whose owners are openly saying it will be several years before we're competing for major trophies, as opposed to a team who could immediately win the PL/CL with just one great season from Gyokeres.
 
Would prefer to try and sign his compatriot if we spend big on a centre forward.
 
2 man midfield said:
I’d see how he does with Hojlund before spending 80m we don’t have on this guy.

Bad Dost and Mario Jardel had insane scoring records at sporting Lisbon
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People talk about Jardel a lot here, but he was great for Porto, Galatasary and Sporting.

When he went to Bolton he was already having drug problems and was past it at nearly 30. Not a good example.
 
Deco10Legend said:
People talk about Jardel a lot here, but he was great for Porto, Galatasary and Sporting.

When he went to Bolton he was already having drug problems and was past it at nearly 30. Not a good example.
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It’s a fair enough point to make though when someone who doesn’t exactly set the world alight in England, moves to Portugal and suddenly can’t stop scoring.
 
2 man midfield said:
It’s a fair enough point to make though when someone who doesn’t exactly set the world alight in England, moves to Portugal and suddenly can’t stop scoring.
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Sure but that was not the case with Jardel.
When he came back to Portugal to play for Beira Mar he was pretty much finished.
 
2 man midfield said:
It’s a fair enough point to make though when someone who doesn’t exactly set the world alight in England, moves to Portugal and suddenly can’t stop scoring.
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Gyokeres was very good for Coventry in his last season and a big reason they got to the playoffs. I remember watching him a few times that year and being really impressed with his all round game rather than just his goalscoring.
 
Mickeza said:
Gyokeres was very good for Coventry in his last season and a big reason they got to the playoffs. I remember watching him a few times that year and being really impressed with his all round game rather than just his goalscoring.
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Agree. It was clear in my opinion he was ready for the PL. Didn’t think he would explode this much though, I thought he would end up at a mid table PL club the following season
 
Mickeza said:
Gyokeres was very good for Coventry in his last season and a big reason they got to the playoffs. I remember watching him a few times that year and being really impressed with his all round game rather than just his goalscoring.
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His all round play may well have been excellent.

But it's his goalscoring that's garnering him attention. And his rate of returns in the Championship that season (0.47 per 90) was less (and in some cases significantly less) than various strikers like Toney, Pukki, Bamford, Armstrong, Watkins, etc. have managed in the same league in the past. His record was nothing impressive.

So when that rate of returns suddenly doubles and triples as soon as he lands in the Portugese league, that comes with some question marks.
 
He's so fecking good isn't he, Lewandowski with pace pretty much. I wouldn't be sad if we just blow our whole budget on him in the summer.
 
sullydnl said:
His all round play may well have been excellent.

But it's his goalscoring that's garnering him attention. And his rate of returns in the Championship that season (0.47 per 90) was less (and in some cases significantly less) than various strikers like Toney, Pukki, Bamford, Armstrong, Watkins, etc. have managed in the same league in the past. His record was nothing impressive.

So when that rate of returns suddenly doubles and triples as soon as he lands in the Portugese league, that comes with some question marks.
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I think it's the way he's seemingly continued to progress considerably since his move to Sporting to be honest, and is delivering on the European stage as well as domestically. Over the last 4 and a bit seasons he's gone from:
20/21 - Barely starting a game on loan at Swansea in 1st half of the season and making next to no impact off the bench, 2nd half of the season making mostly sub appearances on loan at Coventry but scoring a few goals.
21/22 - 17 goals and 5 assists in 45 apps the Championship
22/23 - 21 goals and 12 assists in 49 apps the Championship + playoffs
23/24 - 29 goals and 10 assists in 32 apps in Portugal, plus 5 in the Europa League, and starting to get called up to the National team
24/25 so far - 16 goals and 1 assist in just 10 league games, plus 5 goals already in the Champions League, plus he now has 5 goals in 4 assists in his last 5 internationals.

So all the stats point to a player who was a late bloomer but is potentially one of the best forwards out there now, despite the fact he was playing in the Championship only 18 months ago. There is obviously still a question mark whilst he hasn't played in one of the top 4/5 European leagues, but I suspect someone will give him the chance to answer that next soon, he's bound to be on a lot of clubs wishlist in January or next summer.
 
I think even if we ONLY sign him this summer I’d take it. We haven’t had a top striker for a long time and even the ones we did have were at the end of their careers at the top level (Zlatan, Cavani etc). This guy bullied City and along with his numbers, that’s enough for me. He’d be 27 so we’d get a good 4-5 years in his prime but he’ll still know where the goal is after that too. No brainer.
 
You need an experienced and proven goal scorer in a United team. 27 age is not bad at all. He still has 3-4 years to lead the line while the club groom younger talent for future.
 
I think if we can target Osimhen on a cheaper deal id' take that over spending alot of money on the hottest striker of the season.

No doubt he looks class but i watched a video where approximately 11 of his goals were penalties & it made me feel like his price maybe inflated.

However, one benefit is that he has played in the country & manager before.
 
This guy is ridiculous. Another two goals before half time. Shit opposition, though.
 
Mike Smalling said:
If he is the right player, 27 really shouldn't be scaring us off. I'd much rather go with established at 27 than potential at 21.
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Few points on that...

1. You say "established"...what level is Gyokeres at exactly? At 27, he's unlikely to be improving, so how good is he right now? He was at Coventry four seasons ago and has had a great time at Sporting in the Portuguese league. Are you absolutely convinced he's the level we need because at 27, this is as good as he's going to get and....

2. If it doesn't work out, then we're lumbered with another expensive signing on a 5YR deal (likely to offset PSR) and will be looking at taking a big loss because
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3. At 29+ there will be very very limited resale value for a player who has proven to not be elite level and is likely on a salary that prices out mid-tier clubs.

4. Also consider, where was Gyokeres relative to Hojlund at 21? How would Gyokeres potentially impact the development of a lad we've spent £70m on and who has shown promise (consider where Watkins, Solanke, Toney, Kane etc...where at his age and how many goals they have scored in the PL)

So if I was thinking about this like a Director of Football, I'm concluding that it's too big of a gamble and we'd be better served signing two £30m strikers between the ages of 19 and 24, and seeing how they develop....because we can pay lower wages, they'll retain resale value and we can "fail fast" i.e. move them on quickly if it doesn't work out + their ceiling could ultimately be higher.
 
Rozay said:
Would prefer to try and sign his compatriot if we spend big on a centre forward.
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Depends what we want upfront. Gyatkeres may or may not be a dud if he gets the big move, but the man lives and breathes classic no.9 play. Given the personnel (mainly Fernandes) — I imagine we’d be looking for a player who will benefit from all his chance creation.

Isak makes more sense if the plan is to start getting combination play going.
 
Hattrick, is that his 3rd hattrick in 5 games or something? Across league, CL and Nations League.

EDIT: 4 goals now.
 
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Guy is a monster. Can't decide if he's the most obvious prem flop ever or if he's coming in and scoring 20+ for any decent side.
 
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