Victor Gyökeres

I personally see no good reason to sign him. We don't need another cf who will cost a fortune. Especially when they are not guaranteed quality and are mere potential

I think what makes him appeal to me is that I followed him last season where he seemed to have everything and he's then gone on to step up another level when faced with a bigger challenge at Sporting. No adaptation necessary, no teething problems at all. That seems like the right kind of character to go along with a great set of attributes. And outside of somebody who's already scoring consistently in the PL, or an Osimhen or someone, I think that makes him as close to a sure thing as you're likely to find in this market.

If it's no ball below the release clause then sure, move on. But I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sporting sell for a decent bit less and somebody to benefit from it big time. We spent big on Hojlund and maybe can't be splashing huge sums on the same position again, but the fact remains that this squad desperately needs another striker.
 
I think what makes him appeal to me is that I followed him last season where he seemed to have everything and he's then gone on to step up another level when faced with a bigger challenge at Sporting. No adaptation necessary, no teething problems at all. That seems like the right kind of character to go along with a great set of attributes. And outside of somebody who's already scoring consistently in the PL, or an Osimhen or someone, I think that makes him as close to a sure thing as you're likely to find in this market.

If it's no ball below the release clause then sure, move on. But I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Sporting sell for a decent bit less and somebody to benefit from it big time. We spent big on Hojlund and maybe can't be splashing huge sums on the same position again, but the fact remains that this squad desperately needs another striker.
there is no chance Sporting sell him for less than his buy out after a season. That rules him out completely in my view.

Besides we can find strikers in his age range and caliber at far cheaper prices.
 
We should stay clear this kind transfer, he's not worth the hassle unless he's R9 level only then should be ve paying 100m for any attacker.
 
One of my mates is a Coventry fan and says he's the best striker they've ever had in his lifetime.

High praise from a man that's seen the likes of Dion Dublin and Noel Whelan play for them.
 
Every semi decent player coming out of Portugal seems to be quoted at 100m. No thanks. Let them miss out on the more realistic 40m that they could have had
 
One of my mates is a Coventry fan and says he's the best striker they've ever had in his lifetime.

High praise from a man that's seen the likes of Dion Dublin and Noel Whelan play for them.
Off the top of my head:

Peter ndlovu
Kevin Gallagher
David Speedie
Mark Hatley
Cyril Regis
Micky Quinn (fat, round, worth a million pound)
Robbie Keane
Terry Gibson
 
Buying a striker for big money after one good season in the Portuguese league is probably the second daftest thing you can do in the realm of football transfers, just behind buying a striker for big money after one good season in the Bundesliga.
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If we are willing to offer the asking fee of 103m for Gyokeres, I'd rather sign Osimhen for whom Napoli want 112m. That being said, I don't believe we should currently make a big money transfer at all.
 
He is very strong, shields the ball well, is fast, good header.
His main problem is his technique, he lacks a bit in that department, but he usually very direct with the ball anyway and his finishing is actually good, better than Darwin.

He reminds me a bit of Haaland.
The Portuguese league is easy mode for him, but I’m not complete sure he will make it big at the premier league.
But you have to take risks and he is one of the better strikers out there outside the big leagues.
 
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I wish we'd go after players who have strong Championship seasons while they're still in the championship.

In recent years you've had this bloke, Toney, Watkins, Bowen, Mitro and probably more who have scored/looked great in the Championship and then transfered that across to the PL.

Only person we've seemingly ever taken that punt on is Dan James, and we even made a profit on him
 
Victor Gyokeres is highly likely to go to Brentford or West ham this year, if Cov don't come up. Good numbers this year, 25 mil.

My left fields are Che Adams or Duk from Aberdeen

May 2023, feel like we've missed the boat on this one and frankly sick of getting them late.

Morgan Whittaker looks really good.
 
Really strange no one has been in for him this window, I mean in a time when strikers are scarce as ever you got one guy who scored 37 goals and had 13 assists last season, who's 6'1 and has the physicality to play in any top league yet no teams are interested? Not even rumors?

I mean I would understand if sporting quote some 100M+ ridiculous price but there hasn't been any information its like he doesn't exist...really strange, are teams looking at something we fans can't see?
 
Really strange no one has been in for him this window, I mean in a time when strikers are scarce as ever you got one guy who scored 37 goals and had 13 assists last season, who's 6'1 and has the physicality to play in any top league yet no teams are interested? Not even rumors?

I mean I would understand if sporting quote some 100M+ ridiculous price but there hasn't been any information its like he doesn't exist...really strange, are teams looking at something we fans can't see?

If Benfica got €100m for Nunez I wouldnt be suprised if Sporting wanted the same for this guy
 
Really strange no one has been in for him this window, I mean in a time when strikers are scarce as ever you got one guy who scored 37 goals and had 13 assists last season, who's 6'1 and has the physicality to play in any top league yet no teams are interested? Not even rumors?

I mean I would understand if sporting quote some 100M+ ridiculous price but there hasn't been any information its like he doesn't exist...really strange, are teams looking at something we fans can't see?
There were loads of reports of exactly this very early in the summer.

I think he'll end up back in the PL next year and do very well for what it's worth, but nobody wants to pay €100m for him.
 
There were loads of reports of exactly this very early in the summer.

I think he'll end up back in the PL next year and do very well for what it's worth, but nobody wants to pay €100m for him.
He's the one we let get away!
 
I don't think he's worth that money at all.

All that has happened that has made his career skyrocket is he moved from a decent Championship team to one that's completely dominating the Portuguese League.

But ask yourselves this question: Outside of the three big teams in Portugal, are the rest of the teams in that league better than, say, 90% of the teams in the Championship? No, not really IMO. I would even go as far as to claim that outside of Sporting, Porto, Benfica, and maybe Braga, none of the remaining 14 teams would manage to earn promotion if they played in the Championship.

Gyökeres would flop hard in the Premier League in my opinion, unless he went to City and Arsenal and even then he wouldn't justify the 100 million price tag. Don't want to sound too harsh but I think he's basically a flat-track bully right now.
 
Really strange no one has been in for him this window, I mean in a time when strikers are scarce as ever you got one guy who scored 37 goals and had 13 assists last season, who's 6'1 and has the physicality to play in any top league yet no teams are interested? Not even rumors?

I mean I would understand if sporting quote some 100M+ ridiculous price but there hasn't been any information its like he doesn't exist...really strange, are teams looking at something we fans can't see?
Here are a few reasons:
  • Jackson Martinez
  • Jonas
  • Haris Seferovic
  • Darwin Nunez
  • Bas Dost
  • Goncalo Ramos
  • Simon Banza
  • Rafa Mujica
Just focussing on last season's top scorers: Simon Banza scored 1 in 7 in the French league, suddenly a 1 in 2 player in Portugal. Mujica was a 1 in 15 striker in the Spanish Championship... 1 in 2 in Portugal. The league is a joke.

If he shows something against good opposition in the CL or at international level, that's a different conversation, but pure goal numbers in the Portuguese league are worthless.
 
Really strange no one has been in for him this window, I mean in a time when strikers are scarce as ever you got one guy who scored 37 goals and had 13 assists last season, who's 6'1 and has the physicality to play in any top league yet no teams are interested? Not even rumors?

I mean I would understand if sporting quote some 100M+ ridiculous price but there hasn't been any information its like he doesn't exist...really strange, are teams looking at something we fans can't see?

Hasn't he sort of said he's following Amorim when he moves? Stay one more year and then they could end up at Chelsea perhaps.
 
Here are a few reasons:
  • Jackson Martinez
  • Jonas
  • Haris Seferovic
  • Darwin Nunez
  • Bas Dost
  • Goncalo Ramos
  • Simon Banza
  • Rafa Mujica
Just focussing on last season's top scorers: Simon Banza scored 1 in 7 in the French league, suddenly a 1 in 2 player in Portugal. Mujica was a 1 in 15 striker in the Spanish Championship... 1 in 2 in Portugal. The league is a joke.

If he shows something against good opposition in the CL or at international level, that's a different conversation, but pure goal numbers in the Portuguese league are worthless.
How many of those guys had played and scored goals in England before? I know it's the Championship but we've seen in recent years that there is plenty of talent that translates into the Prem from there.
 
How many good to great players have come from the Portuguese liga through the years?

Rui Costa
Deco
Figo
Pepe
Ricardo Carvalho
Bernardo Silva
Ruben Dias
Falcão
Bruno Fernandes
Eder Militão
Vitinha
Moutinho
Luís Diaz
Nuno Mendes
Hulk
Ederson
Jota
Etc etc didn’t even mentioned Ronaldo because he barely plated there.

The championship might be more competitive but no way it has developed more talent,
 
How many good to great players have come from the Portuguese liga through the years?

Rui Costa
Deco
Figo
Pepe
Ricardo Carvalho
Bernardo Silva
Ruben Dias
Falcão
Bruno Fernandes
Eder Militão
Vitinha
Moutinho
Luís Diaz
Nuno Mendes
Hulk
Ederson
Jota
Etc etc didn’t even mentioned Ronaldo because he barely plated there.

The championship might be more competitive but no way it has developed more talent,

The Portuguese League usually has a great talent pool for big teams from the top 5 leagues to pick from, but they need to take a few things into consideration.

1. Is the player ready for the physicality of the Premier League? I think we've seen how much that hurts Enzo Fernández every game. Vitinha couldn't succeed in the Premier League. Maybe it wouldn't have been a good career move for Joao Neves either, for the same reason, even though Ligue 1 is actually a fairly physical league.

2. Is the player doing so well mostly because his environment allows him to, or does he actually have the required skillset for his game to translate into the Premier League or another, more physical league?

3. Some of these examples are funny. First, it says a lot that you have to go back 20+ years with some of them. Secondly, Bernardo Silva played 1 game in the Portugese League in his whole career.
 
Bernardo played for the Benfica B team in the second division though, he just couldn’t make it to the first team. Big mistake by Jesus.

By your logic, the Portuguese league is stronger than the premier league since he plays well there and couldn’t make it the Portuguese league.

And that just the thing, there’s a lot of factors going into a players performance, sometimes is the coach, the wrong club whatever, the wrong timing.

Vitinha was pretty young when he went to Wolves, is much more mature now. I’m sure we would be a boss there now like he is for the national team and for PSG including champions league.

I’m sure a lot of premier league teams would love to have him now.

Salah and De Bruyne didn’t do much at Chelsea and look at them now.
Bergkamp didn’t make it in Italy and was great at arsenal.

It’s not cut and dry like that, lots of factors come into play.
 
Bernardo played for the Benfica B team in the second division though, he just couldn’t make it to the first team. Big mistake by Jesus.

By your logic, the Portuguese league is stronger than the premier league since he plays well there and couldn’t make it the Portuguese league.

And that just the thing, there’s a lot of factors going into a players performance, sometimes is the coach, the wrong club whatever, the wrong timing.

Vitinha was pretty young when he went to Wolves, is much more mature now. I’m sure we would be a boss there now like he is for the national team and for PSG including champions league.

I’m sure a lot of premier league teams would love to have him now.

Salah and De Bruyne didn’t do much at Chelsea and look at them now.
Bergkamp didn’t make it in Italy and was great at arsenal.

It’s not cut and dry like that, lots of factors come into play.

I agree with most of your post.

By the way, Samu Omorodion has gone to Porto just now, I don't know if you've seen it. He's a player who should score a lot of goals in the Portuguese League.
 
I agree with most of your post.

By the way, Samu Omorodion has gone to Porto just now, I don't know if you've seen it. He's a player who should score a lot of goals in the Portuguese League.
Yeh just saw the news, don’t know him, hopefully he is good.
 
I haven’t watch him enough to make a conclusion whether he’s good enough for man united level. But on paper, he’s what we need because we should be looking at striker who is physically strong and aggressive so they can bully PL defenders, striker who is in their prime age because we need it to compete in top level, and a striker who can actually score goals.