VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

Swedish_Plumber said:
It’s not even the reds yesterday. It’s that Dorgu yellow card. That’s inexcusable really, especially on the assistants side. You could see it clearly as it happened through a fecking television screen, yet they can’t?
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You could argue that if Dorgu rolls around and milks it that that's a red card too, Smith agreed it was a Bournemouth foul obviously.
 
Withnail said:
I don't think it has changed to be honest. They do communicate and the linesman should be telling the ref what he saw if he's better placed and closer to the incident.
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Then he should've stepped in. I remember issues with VARs not wanting to correct Oliver not too long ago. Maybe too much of an unquestionable authority culture for a linesman to dare to step out of line.
 
Sky ref watch

Gallagher : It’s a red, dangerous follow through to standing leg.

Presenter : What about the Bruno slip v Spurs you said that wasn’t a red

Scouse woman : Never a red for me

Scouse Warnock : Never a red for me

Earlier foul on Garnacho

Gallagher : just about a yellow, any higher and red

Scouse woman : Never a red for me

Scouse Warnock : It’s a great tackle

State of it
 
LeonDion said:
Sky ref watch

Gallagher : It’s a red, dangerous follow through to standing leg.

Presenter : What about the Bruno slip v Spurs you said that wasn’t a red

Scouse woman : Never a red for me

Scouse Warnock : Never a red for me

Earlier foul on Garnacho

Gallagher : just about a yellow, any higher and red

Scouse woman : Never a red for me

Scouse Warnock : It’s a great tackle

State of it
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Ffs whatever about claiming it should have stayed yellow, claiming it was a great tackle is madness.
 
Still can't see how the two Bournemouth tackles get a yellow and a red, from the same set of referees.

Either both are red or neither are.
 
Withnail said:
I don't think it has changed to be honest. They do communicate and the linesman should be telling the ref what he saw if he's better placed and closer to the incident.
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Obviously, we don't know if there was communication but the linesman gave a throw-in, if he thought it was a foul he would have been waving his flag to indicate a foul, that's what they normally do
 
Before our club starts moaning after every match we play with disgusting decisions against us then we will continue to be hit hard by Var, refs, linesmen, pundits, media etc.

This club is too passive.
 
Did the ref bottle the penalty call when Timber had his arm around him?

Think the fans were moaning prior to this, correct or incorrect decision? Could have been 2-0 first half.
 
I'm mainly lost on how that tackle on Garnacho isn't a straight red card. It's not even in the realms of being debatable. Just seems to be the idiotic stone age English attitude of it being ok to kick lumps out of players that are better at football than you.

The actual red was never a red but at least everyone who isn't either biased or a Premier League referee (i.e. either corrupt or utterly incompetent) can agree on that.

But I don't know why after years this debate is still ongoing when it's so beyond obvious that the issue is the incompetence/lack of standards or accountability applied to the officials. If I was as bad at my job at them I'd last about 2 weeks...and it's not like it's easy to get sacked from my job. Most it'd be more like 2 days.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Thats mad that.

If Maz has his leg planted then you'd be talking about a leg breaking challenge.

It also sets a weird precedent now where, if you slip, it doesn't matter what happens next
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It's correct though. You can't punish someone for slipping over.

I think they just knew the cocked up with the one on Garnacho so the usual plank head "even if up when we get the chance" approach kicked in..
 
Brazilian_Ronaldo_9 said:
Did the ref bottle the penalty call when Timber had his arm around him?

Think the fans were moaning prior to this, correct or incorrect decision? Could have been 2-0 first half.
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Didn't think that was a pen personally. Timber had his arm there but Kvara chose to throw himself to the ground. Timber got away with multiple fouls on Kvara though. Should have been booked in the first half, and maybe even a 2nd yellow. He just kept fouling and fouling.

He definitely should have booked Martinelli for diving for the free kick he won near the end of the game.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Thats mad that.

If Maz has his leg planted then you'd be talking about a leg breaking challenge.

It also sets a weird precedent now where, if you slip, it doesn't matter what happens next
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I can't wait to see this standard being fairly and consistently applied to all such appeals in the future!
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Thats mad that.

If Maz has his leg planted then you'd be talking about a leg breaking challenge.

It also sets a weird precedent now where, if you slip, it doesn't matter what happens next
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If you slip it's considered an accident. If the challenge itself, in the absence of the player slipping, didn't meet any of the thresholds for a red such as excessive force or recklessness etc then I think it's fair enough.
 
Heinzesight said:
I know Dorgu’s looked worse against Ipswich…but he slipped and it was torrential rain at the time.
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Plus Hutchinson was kneeling down, making it look even worse.

At the time, Savage was banging on about it like he had just witnessed a potential assault.
 
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