Name one offside not given as tight the Garnacho's disallowed goal vs Arsenal that still has people talking about it to this day. You can't. It doesn't exist.
Name one offside not given as tight the Garnacho's disallowed goal vs Arsenal that still has people talking about it to this day. You can't. It doesn't exist.
This is why nobody will ever be happy with VAR. Four man panel votes 3-1 that Amrabat didn’t foul Gordon, several days after the incident (which looked like a definite foul to me). So why on earth do we expect the referee/VAR guy to come up with decisions that keeps everyone happy in a matter of seconds?
This is the best way to implement VAR if its going to stay in the game for me
What annoys me the most about this and every other time the panel results have come out like this is that they are never willing to explain their decision. The dissenting voice on that panel has explained their decision, but three voted to back the referee and VAR decisions on the day and we don’t know why the referee made that decision (probably because they didn’t see it in real time), why VAR didn’t overturn it (probably because they were rushing and didn’t see the one angle which showed the contact, or they simply felt the “threshold had not been met”) and we now don’t know why three panelist’s felt the correct decision was taken. We don’t know if these panelist’s are determining a foul did not occur for whatever technicality, or if they were simply judging on the context of VAR and deciding they were right to determine that the threshold was not met.This is why nobody will ever be happy with VAR. Four man panel votes 3-1 that Amrabat didn’t foul Gordon, several days after the incident (which looked like a definite foul to me). So why on earth do we expect the referee/VAR guy to come up with decisions that keeps everyone happy in a matter of seconds?
One of the most egregious tactical fouls you'll see this season, 3 yards in front of the ref's face, no yellow.
Is that what happened? Talksport went mad and said Oliver did the right thing by telling VAR to “do one”.Michael Oliver...words fail me sometimes.
Jesus deliberately used his arm to control the ball, and after Atwell correctly advised him to disallow the resulting goal, Oliver somehow stuck with his original decision.
It is so farcical you couldn't make it up. If your arm is below your waist, you can still use it to control the ball, which is exactly what Jesus did.
VAR worked brilliantly in the play off final today.
Crewe through on goal, striker rounds the keeper and goes down. Penalty. VAR then shows the ref the Crewe player dived (one of those where he leaves his leg to try to make contact with the keeper and even then there's hardly any contact). Decision overturned, no penalty.
The sad thing about all that, the premier league in that situation would probably just stick with the ref's call and there's where VAR keeps on failing every few weeks.
Is that what happened? Talksport went mad and said Oliver did the right thing by telling VAR to “do one”.
I haven't seen this, but if Jesus controls the ball with his shoulder, as you say, that is not handball, and even if it hits his shoulder and drops down and hits his arm it still isn't handballMichael Oliver...words fail me sometimes.
Jesus deliberately twists his shoulder to control the ball, and after Atwell correctly advises him to disallow the resulting goal, Oliver sticks with his original decision.
It is so farcical you couldn't make it up. If your arm is below your waist, you can still use it to control the ball, which is exactly what Jesus did.
Jesus basically leans into the ball in order to evade Tarkowski's challenge.
I know Arsenal fans and TalkSport will say his arm in its 'natural position', but for me, that's obviously an intentional handball. He's used his arm to manipulate the ball and to play it where he wants to go.
Nope. The inability to celebrate a goal incase it’s a mm offside is the technology’s fault and the principle of it being used for a rule that it was never meant for. This is the single biggest issue with VAR.VAR isn't the problem: the refs are. Allowing the winner against Everton was a joke and proves some refs don't know the actual rules. He went to the monitor and still gave it
that's just not relevant to the actual gameNope. The inability to celebrate a goal incase it’s a mm offside is the technology’s fault and the principle of it being used for a rule that it was never meant for. This is the single biggest issue with VAR.
VAR is a refVAR isn't the problem: the refs are. Allowing the winner against Everton was a joke and proves some refs don't know the actual rules. He went to the monitor and still gave it
Yes Oliver is an issue in himself. He should be scrapped too.VAR wasn't the issue with the Arsenal goal. They recommended it was disallowed. Oliver ignored them.
Surely you see this reffing standards, not a VAR problem though? It was a certain foul and penalty.This is why nobody will ever be happy with VAR. Four man panel votes 3-1 that Amrabat didn’t foul Gordon, several days after the incident (which looked like a definite foul to me). So why on earth do we expect the referee/VAR guy to come up with decisions that keeps everyone happy in a matter of seconds?
Surely you see this reffing standards, not a VAR problem though? It was a certain foul and penalty.
Everyone on here seems in unison on this one? The issue with the ref reviews is they are very very hesitant to ever criticize their own.That’s your opinion. Many would disagree. Same as every other debatable decision. Hence VAR won’t ever remove controversy and disagreement around calls like this. So why should we put up with all the obvious downsides? (can’t celebrate goals, long stoppages, double digit injury time etc etc)
‘Forward invaded the defender’s space’ is not a reason I’ve ever heard for not giving a stonewall penalty.
‘Forward invaded the defender’s space’ is not a reason I’ve ever heard for not giving a stonewall penalty.
VAR isn't the problem: the refs are. Allowing the winner against Everton was a joke and proves some refs don't know the actual rules. He went to the monitor and still gave it
that's what I said - the tech is fine; the dimwits using it are... dimwitsVAR is a ref
It isn't some AI operating system.
It's a person. We might as well start calling linesman 'Visual Assistive Operator' or VAO for short and referring to them as akin to cyborgs because we use an acronym to describe them.
