VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

Snow said:
You're contradicting yourself. If you think that it was a foul and a red card then the ref made an obvious mistake on the pitch and therefor VAR should have intervened.

I simply think that the ref and VAR didn't have the balls to make the correct call. If it were just a penalty call and not a red either party might have given it.

Michael Oliver-like decision making.
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See the post below my initial one, even a United fan thought it was between a shoulder barge and a shove. VAR could also have been of that opinion hence why it wasn't enough to overturn it? My initial point was more in the sense of "do they have to assess whether it's a foul or do they have to assess whether the referee made a clear and obvious error", I don't think those two things are the same. But if the ref gives that I believe VAR would definitely have also agreed with the call.

Don't think it's about having balls at all, we've seen VAR intervene earlier and in bigger games countless times by now.
 
RobinLFC said:
See the post below my initial one, even a United fan thought it was between a shoulder barge and a shove. VAR could also have been of that opinion hence why it wasn't enough to overturn it? My initial point was more in the sense of "do they have to assess whether it's a foul or do they have to assess whether the referee made a clear and obvious error", I don't think those two things are the same. But if the ref gives that I believe VAR would definitely have also agreed with the call.

Don't think it's about having balls at all, we've seen VAR intervene earlier and in bigger games countless times by now.
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It's about balls yes. Doesn't matter what happens in other games when it's different personnel. The issue with VAR is consistency and the lack of consistency is a mix of poor quality (less so in Europe) and different people refereeing. That's normal.
 
RobinLFC said:
See the post below my initial one, even a United fan thought it was between a shoulder barge and a shove. VAR could also have been of that opinion hence why it wasn't enough to overturn it? My initial point was more in the sense of "do they have to assess whether it's a foul or do they have to assess whether the referee made a clear and obvious error", I don't think those two things are the same. But if the ref gives that I believe VAR would definitely have also agreed with the call.

Don't think it's about having balls at all, we've seen VAR intervene earlier and in bigger games countless times by now.
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He’s wrong too then.

Perhaps accidentally, but you’ve called it what it was… a barge. You can go shoulder to shoulder with another player, there’s no law that says you’re allowed to shove/barge someone in the back.
 
RobinLFC said:
See the post below my initial one, even a United fan thought it was between a shoulder barge and a shove. VAR could also have been of that opinion hence why it wasn't enough to overturn it? My initial point was more in the sense of "do they have to assess whether it's a foul or do they have to assess whether the referee made a clear and obvious error", I don't think those two things are the same. But if the ref gives that I believe VAR would definitely have also agreed with the call.

Don't think it's about having balls at all, we've seen VAR intervene earlier and in bigger games countless times by now.
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Liverpool fans will never accept that Liverpool are treated differently by officials.
It’s blindingly obvious.
 
OldSchoolManc said:
Liverpool fans will never accept that Liverpool are treated differently by officials.
It’s blindingly obvious.
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So was it also true when rival fans were saying it about United when you were winning things? Or is it just Liverpool then?
 
I'd understand it if it was from the side, but it's a fairly obvious one from behind so i'm surprised the ref just ignores it.
 
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