VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

It's giving a last minute penalty away. He's deflated. Plus players have been booked all season for arguing with the referee..

If you think touching a player on the thigh with the outside of your hand is enough contact for a penalty.. game is officially gone. feck this

Even more reason to protest surely?

Also it's not the arm, it's the sight trip... Way I see it it's the reason Dalot himself was falling over.
 
Liverpool fan who was on var for the catastrophe away at arsenal. Out of his depth, arrogant a-league standard cheat
 
Both very soft.

I'm just as annoyed by him giving Chelsea just about every other fecking decision throughout the game tbh. They usually at least try to balance things out a bit.
 
In a world where Hojlund doesn’t get a pen after being wrestled to the ground by Gabriel, how can they justify either of those tonight?
 
Because the last time he said something to a referee he was sent off for it.

And yet he's still complained about other decisions since then?

We've all played, when you know you haven't fouled someone your natural reaction is to protest your innocence.
 
I can’t answer as to why Dalot didn’t protest more, but the replay is pretty fecking clear in terms of the lack of contact. Last time i checked, it‘s contact and not amount of protesting that means something.
He probably remembers how Oliver gave him two yellow cards in 3 seconds for waving his arms at Anfield, when Oliver wrongly gave Liverpool a throw in.
 
We wouldn't have gotten either of those pens. Both were so soft. We've had so many blatant calls turned down this season.
 
In a world where Hojlund doesn’t get a pen after being wrestled to the ground by Gabriel, how can they justify either of those tonight?
That's the genius part. Because there is absolutely feck all accountability in that job they don't need to.

Dermot Gallagher will pop up on Sky Sports News, looking like a turtle whose wife took the shell in the divorce, to back the referee up and that'll be that.
 
Even more reason to protest surely?

Also it's not the arm, it's the sight trip... Way I see it it's the reason Dalot himself was falling over.
Yeah seen that too, his foot clips Madueke and he falls over. However, Madueke then has a couple of strides after that and falls over. Clearly that contact didn't cause him to fall over. Looks like a dive in full honesty, but can understand why it was given.
 
The commentary was mental too, treating them as if they were stonewall.
 
Yeah seen that too, his foot clips Madueke and he falls over. However, Madueke then has a couple of strides after that and falls over. Clearly that contact didn't cause him to fall over. Looks like a dive in full honesty, but can understand why it was given.

This perfectly sums up my thoughts.

Its a dive but I see why it was given.
 
I'd be ok with those pens being given if we were afforded the same standard. Hojlund got taken down in the box with more contact being made than either pen but theres not even a replay. I know the crowd plays a role but that was a very biased refereeing performance.
 
Two horrendously soft pens, if the ref played on im not sure VAR would have overturned them, but in real time both challenges looked nail on pens and add the actual contact on both i wasn't surprised they were upheld. We didn't deserve to win and we deserved to lose for being so spineless all season. So many sub par players in this team making excuses week on week.
 
Even more reason to protest surely?

Also it's not the arm, it's the sight trip... Way I see it it's the reason Dalot himself was falling over.

Ok mate. If I'm ever on jury service I'll make sure to ignore the evidence of my eyes and ears and only judge the guilt of the person based on how I think they should be reacting. You've taught me that lesson
 
This same ref decided that hojlund being ripped down at arsenal was NOT a penalty. Make sense of that if it isn't cheating
 
The players should show respect by not protesting, and if he protests he shall be sent off for two yellows instantly.

Cut to: Ha, look, he's not protesting, so the dive must be a pen!
 
Well that makes sense then. Bitter that Ten Hag complained about him with that call.

Referees have that bent copper mentality


Ten hag needs to make this point. The guy shouldn't be NEAR the PL. He was basically an amateur official
 
This perfectly sums up my thoughts.

Its a dive but I see why it was given.
Both pens kind of fall into this category for me. They look like pens to the naked eye, and then when you see the replay it's so soft. VAR doesn't deem it in the realm of 'clear and obvious' error, whatever that means anymore.

For the neutral, this must be great entertainment and fun to laugh United, until it ends up being your club being served up this level of officiating.
 
Two softest fouls given in the match were the pens. Ref wasn't giving fouls like that out on the pitch all match. Shocking that those two penalties and that much extra time was allowed.
 
This perfectly sums up my thoughts.

Its a dive but I see why it was given.
Still don’t know what the ref was doing at the time as one, he couldn’t see the contact and two, he paused for a bit. Why? You either think it’s a pen or not. If you’re not sure, don’t give it and see if VAR ask you to have a look…
 
Yeah seen that too, his foot clips Madueke and he falls over. However, Madueke then has a couple of strides after that and falls over. Clearly that contact didn't cause him to fall over. Looks like a dive in full honesty, but can understand why it was given.
Given the way VAR was looking at it they thought so too but football rules are so much stricter than how the game is usually reffed that they couldn't overturn it.
 
That is a rough one to call. I would say its more likely a dive than pen.

I fail to see how it’s a rough one to call. You can barely spot Dalot touching him, but the Chelsea player keeps on running and then collapses to the ground. If he’d gone down instantly it would still be feck all of a contact but it would make more sense that they didn’t overturn it. They’re literally staring at Madueke just collapsing to the ground after taking further strides
 
Gillet gave one of the worst refereeing displays I have ever seen. He ranks alongside Michael Oliver and that Slovenian gangster from the Atletico Madrid match two seasons ago.
The pens have been discussed a lot and will be a lot more yet. As should VARs role in not sending him to the screen.

But some of those tackles in the second half were definitely card worthy … I dont think I’m being biased, just looking at fouls and current rules.
 
I also never saw a replay of the possible foul on Hojlund, but it looked more of a contact than either of their pens.