VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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I'm aware yes.
Feel sorry for Nottingham there. Referee is not giving them anything. Shockingly bad.
What
That's an abysmal red card. Sliding tackles are about to be outlawed.
I'm assuming a blind manWho's reffing that one?
Which, of course, is a nonsense in itself.
The penalty not given in this Liverpool game is scandalous honestly. Literally zero reason to explain this decision
Let’s see if Arteta calls that blasphemy and goes mental
Which one?
Odegaard handball
Ive only seen a still shot of that one and it looked like he was falling with his arm in a natural position but I saw the TAA one on the telly and that one looked like it was shoulder to shoulder to me so no pen.
Best angle about halfway through video
https://x.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1738668041297174799?s=20
100% a penalty
Fantastic
Wut?
I think this might be the worst decision I have ever seen. A player actually reaching down to grab the very ball on the ground. How can this happen? If this happened to us I would want us to refuse to come out for the second half, honestly, what is the point.
Blatant penalty:
Edit: Looks like another obvious handball was missed in the Forest Bournemouth game too. VAR couldn't confirm it was in the area.
Edit: Looks like another obvious handball was missed in the Forest Bournemouth game too. VAR couldn't confirm it was in the area.
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That's absolutely shocking. Even my hatred for Liverpool can't stop my eyes from seeing how blatant that is.Blatant penalty:
Edit: Looks like another obvious handball was missed in the Forest Bournemouth game too. VAR couldn't confirm it was in the area.
Blatant penalty:
Somehow he had his hand on the ball for a good couple of seconds there. Insane decision.
Odegaard?
If you watched the Liverpool - Arsenal game today, Liverpool were at it again. Salah showed obvious dissent a couple times = no booking, cynical professional fouls = no booking, obvious diving = no booking. Klopp going fecking mental on the touch line, berating the officials = no card. I think it's the baying of the Anfield crowd that gets to the referee. In both our game and this one, Liverpool got treated with kid gloves.
One of those that slow motion makes it look deliberate, whereas in real time it’s accidental. Even then it would’ve still been given as a handball with the old pre-2018 rule, and barely up for debate under the more stringent rules in place now.
the PGMOL could do themselves a favor and reverse/end this rule. If they can re-officiate actions, they can see when yellows were wrongly awarded. They want it so that the "truth" is shown on VAR but we just have soldier on if it goes against us. feck them and feck VAR, by the way.
The state of var and refs is embarassing
that boly one especially. Manager should just walk his team off after a decision as bad as that. Unbelievable.
that boly one especially. Manager should just walk his team off after a decision as bad as that. Unbelievable.
The sooner VAR is scrapped the better, at worst the threshold for intervention should be raised massively so it's only used for things like Thatcher’s foul on Pedro Mendes. So about once a season if that.
It ruins the flow of the game, it's inconsistently applied, ruins goals celebrations. For offside, it's not even accurate because of the limited FPS in capturing exactly when the ball is kicked, better off just going with daylight margin of error and accepting there will be the odd mistake. Football was not designed for digital refereeing and it doesn't work, ruining the spectacle whilst still having numerous unfair decisions, things that are reviewed in one game and not another, not even to mention the outright mistakes.
I enjoyed our game in the League cup v Newcastle much more knowing no VAR. They should pull the plug from next season.
It ruins the flow of the game, it's inconsistently applied, ruins goals celebrations. For offside, it's not even accurate because of the limited FPS in capturing exactly when the ball is kicked, better off just going with daylight margin of error and accepting there will be the odd mistake. Football was not designed for digital refereeing and it doesn't work, ruining the spectacle whilst still having numerous unfair decisions, things that are reviewed in one game and not another, not even to mention the outright mistakes.
I enjoyed our game in the League cup v Newcastle much more knowing no VAR. They should pull the plug from next season.
Sooner or later this is what I want to see. If the match is unwinnable and a terrible decision is made by VAR, I would love to see a mgr take his team off.
Apparently the refs told Dyche that it wasn't given as they both had hands on each other.
That was such a breath of fresh air. Offsides made in the moment. The way they should be. Instantaneous (and almost always correct) decisions made in real time. So insane we deliberately sabotaged such a basic element of watching football for all this shite.
I agree with all of this.
We should have automatic offside and out of play systems, as soon as they can be proven reliable and consistant. Scrap the rest of it, it adds little and takes away far too much.
Fixed easily if
we play 70 mins and a clock is stopped every time the ball is out of play. Take the time keeping away from on pitch officials
offside is from the feet. It’s what you run with to get anywhere on the field. Drop the shoulder, knee, nose fringe nonsense…And yes I understand you can score with a head or a knee but it’s not too often (if at all) from a stood stationary position
VAR is clearly not working so either bin it, or with the amount of money invested so they won’t want to back down (through stubbornness and admitting it’s wank) each team has 1 appeal per game…or half. If a team wants to call it in, they throw down a flag (like NFL) or tap a big feckin red button that makes the refs watch vibrate…then it goes to VAR
Done. Simple
we play 70 mins and a clock is stopped every time the ball is out of play. Take the time keeping away from on pitch officials
offside is from the feet. It’s what you run with to get anywhere on the field. Drop the shoulder, knee, nose fringe nonsense…And yes I understand you can score with a head or a knee but it’s not too often (if at all) from a stood stationary position
VAR is clearly not working so either bin it, or with the amount of money invested so they won’t want to back down (through stubbornness and admitting it’s wank) each team has 1 appeal per game…or half. If a team wants to call it in, they throw down a flag (like NFL) or tap a big feckin red button that makes the refs watch vibrate…then it goes to VAR
Done. Simple
Yeah that's an astonishingly bad decision.
The one in the spurs Everton game as well, atrocious officiating once more, seems like the penalty they gave to City against us is the only time that's going to happen all season after all too.
Seems like this is a weekly occurrence these days. The standard of officiating in this league is in the gutter, an absolute disgrace for the so called best league in the world.
I agree the refereeing is shite, but the teams and players have themselves to blame for being cheating pricks, diving, moaning, throwing imaginary cards about, time wasting.
Commentators don't help, "that's great work to win the penalty" by putting their bodies in unnatural positions. "clever, he knew what he was doing" on a player diving and making the most of anything to get another player sent off.
There needs to be much harsher punishments for players trying to cheat.
Gordon gets booked for a cynical foul, sarcastically claps the ref and no second yellow for dissent like Dalot. Good to see it's another rule we'll only see enforced once this season, again to United's detriment, like the Rodri simulation being adjudged as a penalty.
Those two situations are nothing. There are many more. We all know how we are treated by referees. The only one who doesn't seems to be our club because I've not seen once any official complaint or statement released about this.
It’s extra infuriating knowing the types of decisions that have gone against us this season won’t be given the next week…to be proved correct.
It's difficult. On one hand I don't want a Klopp or Arteta cry baby manager trying to corruptly influence referees or writing statements. On the other hand, we don't even acknowledge the obvious narrative which is referees happy to enforce rules against us and give opposition teams favourable decisions as they'll get an easy ride in the press.