Incompetence or conspiracy? I don't know. What I know is that I don't understand anymore the rules of the sport I love.
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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I thought that when I watched the replay live. Similar to our one that got chalked off the other day.
Agree.
And the club just stays silent instead of calling them all out. If we had any self respect we would have already official statements out. Like we should have done previous games. If we had any self respect we should not go back on that pitch to be ridiculed.
I think the red card is unfortunate but not entirely unfair to be honest. Again, Rashford is extremely unlucky but red cards do quite often get given (although not always, annoyingly) when the foot goes into the ankle with force like that whether it's intentional or not.
The penalty was complete bullshit though. It's ridiculous that teams get practically an 80% chance of a goal for "handballs" like that. I also think, to be frank, if our goal against Fulham is disallowed for the "offside" then Coppenhagen's first goal should indeed also have been ruled offside. I wouldn't necessarily argue that it'd be a decision I agree with, but the defender in Onana's line of sight is probably "interfering with play" just as much as Maguire was last weekend.
The penalty was complete bullshit though. It's ridiculous that teams get practically an 80% chance of a goal for "handballs" like that. I also think, to be frank, if our goal against Fulham is disallowed for the "offside" then Coppenhagen's first goal should indeed also have been ruled offside. I wouldn't necessarily argue that it'd be a decision I agree with, but the defender in Onana's line of sight is probably "interfering with play" just as much as Maguire was last weekend.
Game is gone as long as we have VAR.
Not the technologies fault, its the schoolmaster nerds applying the rules in a TV studio that will kill football
Not the technologies fault, its the schoolmaster nerds applying the rules in a TV studio that will kill football
Surely all the clubs involved would suffer the same?
Couldn't agree more about Savage. I always think of the Roy Keane story about not signing him at Sunderland because he left 'Whasssup' on his voicemail message, always makes me chuckle. Watched Savage live a few times and every time it always baffled me how he made it so far in football.
Also the main commentator (not sure of name) has absolute no emotion in his voice, he's making a goal with 4 goals, a penalty and a red card sound like a stale mate.
I think I'm leaning more and more towards wanting VAR abolished with every match though. There are definitely ways to improve upon it in its current state but honestly I'm not even sure it's worth bothering any more. Just stick with the on-field refs and accept that there will be an element of human error.
How has football fecked this up when literally every other sport has managed to get it right?
I've said it was shit from the start, too many subjective decisions in every single game. It ruins the watching experience and I barely have any enthusiasm to watch games anymore
Feck that shit....i'm slowly losing interest because of var....I found the Spurs game on Monday hilarious for the wrong reasons. Today is another one of a long list.
The Rashford red is a joke. Definitely never a clearly wrong decision for which var needs to jump in. The Ref didn't even gave a Foul for it standing one meter away. Fecking var is then showing him only one moment of the whole situation.
Penalty also harsh.
And first Copenhagen goal would have been ruled out by team Michael Oliver on Monday.
The Rashford red is a joke. Definitely never a clearly wrong decision for which var needs to jump in. The Ref didn't even gave a Foul for it standing one meter away. Fecking var is then showing him only one moment of the whole situation.
Penalty also harsh.
And first Copenhagen goal would have been ruled out by team Michael Oliver on Monday.
There’s more subjectivity in football. In other sports the decisions it’s used for are more black and white.
Going back to the red card to get that IFAB guidelines would suggest that Rashford used excessive force . I just can’t see that,
He was careless possibly but that isn’t a red card just a free kick
- Rashford red
- Copenhagen offside goal
- Maguire pen
it's one thing to have a decision go against you, but when it stacks up like this, you really have to wonder what United have done to be fecked like this. I'm not one to just moan about the refs all the time, but Uniteds "luck" with ref and VAR decisions this year is simply unbelievable. Feels like this shite is happening every fecking week.
- Copenhagen offside goal
- Maguire pen
it's one thing to have a decision go against you, but when it stacks up like this, you really have to wonder what United have done to be fecked like this. I'm not one to just moan about the refs all the time, but Uniteds "luck" with ref and VAR decisions this year is simply unbelievable. Feels like this shite is happening every fecking week.
We don't kick up enough stink on-field over it. We just accept it.
Referees are weak pathetic cnuts who only react to being pressured and we don't do it.
Rugby is way more subjective than football
We are sad club when we can't even manage to put official statements that this is not ok. That this is no accaptable. That we want investigations. That we want tapes from VAR room and referees.
TenHag needs to have some courage and not let players go on pitch. Or if necessary take them out from the pitch as a protest. This is not a normal behaviour by referees. Something we have seen through Premier League games to.
Remember when everyone wanted the video refs because every game had shitty calls? Guess what we still have shitty refs. Be careful what you wish for has never been more fitting.
Because in football they have gone with the mentality that the referee should be the ultimate decision maker, while others just want the right decisions
No check for that? 
It's an undeniable fact at this point that United are judged much more harshly than other teams. Tired of it. It has been a consistent trend for a very long time. Any incident that can possibly be inerpreted in a way that goes against United is done so every time without exception, with the harshest possible decision that the officials can possibly give. This is a huge disadvantage to play under.
When you listen to things like the audio from that Diaz offside in the Spurs/Liverpool game, you realise that even after this amount of time, it's still completely amateurish in its implementation, and they're clearly just making it up as they go along.
They change how they use it seemingly week by week.
VAR Not even checking that. It’s just so fecked up.
No check ?
Not really, offsides, groundings, high tackles. Can’t even use it for a forwards pass
Okay what the feck is going on.
Give a red for that elbow but no VAR check, eh?
Exactly the same. No straight away whistle this time though 
100 % pen
If the Maguire one was a pen then this is easily a pen.
It should ve been a second yellow for the Copenhagen defender.
And if our handball was a pen, then so should theirs
And if our handball was a pen, then so should theirs
I don't think this one should be a pen either.
Well that’s the worst one of the night.
Had to be based on theirs but feck me I'd be fuming if that was given against us
That's the worst penalty decision of the season so far, absolute joke. Is it still corruption?
in a perfect world, neither of these are penalties. But if you give the Maguire one, you better give this one too.
Another terrible decision. At least it went our way this time but that's never, ever a penalty. Game's gone.
I’ll take it.VARchester United is back?
That isn't a pen either, this is mental!