No he was not offside. They checked it and decided not to give the pen because they didnt think it was a pen
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Not sure I really comprehend your thoughts process.
Sanchez ploughing into Jesus the other night is reckless, the keeper last night sliding into Rashford is reckless (offside or not), someone instinctively trying to clear a ball from over their head is not reckless for me, especially when McT doesn't move towards the ball, yet the attacker does.
If anything looking back on it you could actually say the attacker instigated the contact.
Vinicius has gained a clear advantage here. His head is so clearly ahead of the defender and he can use his head to score. He's a good few Cms offside. Even a millimetre can be the difference in getting enough contact on a shot to direct it goalward and not off the post and out . There should be zero controversy with vini jr being offside here at all.
I agree they were reckless. That doesn’t mean swinging your foot at head height isn’t reckless. It’s even more reckless when you don’t even clear the ball. He clearly isn’t in control of his movement as he doesn’t even clear the ball and he could just have easily kicked the guy in the face. You need to check your understanding of what the word reckless means.
Is this picture supposed to show that if the penalty was actually scored it should have been retaken because of the encroachment from the Copenhagen player?
Not giving a foul is absolutely bollocks because he's clearly impeded Rashford by coming out, swinging his leg at the ball (missing it) and forcing Rashford to jump the tackle to not risk having his ankle broken. That means that Rashford has to actively decide not to jump the tackle, smash the legs of the keeper and go down for it to be an infringement.
I mean, you can call it obstruction if you want, but it would still be reviewable by VAR because it would've been a red card even if they sanctioned it with an indirect free kick.
Onana is not on the line.
Only one foot has to be on the line and from that picture it's unclear whether his right back foot is off it.
Sounds like VAR is having an absolute mare at Bournemouth and Burnley.
Just watching the end of Bournemouth game...that is a joke. You could see from first replay Rodriguez head is offside and it takes 5 minutes to work out. 
They need to be putting cameras on the gantry for every 10 yard strip of turf as they seemingly can't work it out quickly from the titled angles seemingly.
They need to be putting cameras on the gantry for every 10 yard strip of turf as they seemingly can't work it out quickly from the titled angles seemingly.
One foot on, and looks like it's just on.
Copenhagen player encroaching, would you have commented on that if they had scored?
Just watching the end of Bournemouth game...that is a joke. You could see from first replay Rodriguez head is offside and it takes 5 minutes to work out.
Listening to Morrison on Sky Sports, they gave the goal with a green line and the line didn't look right. He then said via the video of the VAR room, that they were arguing and then eventually gave a red line for offside.
Clubs voting against the automated offsides used in the recent Women's World cup was an idiotic decision. In a way they've brought it on themselves as the current technology clearly isn't good enough to make quick decisions.
Something to do with the Nike Premier League ball not being used with the technology. But yeah, it worked in the World Cup (Men's and Women's) and it works in the Champions League. Stupid not to implement it, in the richest league.
They watch all these replays, in super duper slo-mo and they still can't see the player going down before any contact is made.
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PL refs are as cnutish as they are stupid.
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PL refs are as cnutish as they are stupid.
Said it in the other thread. Newcastle player is holding his left leg. Which you can clearly see never gets remotely touched on.
They're either corrupt or completely incompetent.
PL is just watching and doing nothing about it. We know which teams get decisions and which teams don’t.
VAR team will be stood down right ? Or is that only when the dipper cnuts are impacted
How is Lascelle not off?
First situation, Wolves player was 1v1 with the keeper if not for the obvious foul. Must be counted as denying a goal scoring chance.
Second situation, wrestles Wolves player in the box, denying him the chance to control the ball.
Feels like the guys in the VAR rooms really have different ways of thinking.
These guys were desperate to side with the ref regardless, some other are desperate to make themselves important, like digging up stuff with Manchester United star player Casemiro, stuff that were worth red card for him, but not for most other players doing the very same thing. There is not even a touch consistency from game to game.
First situation, Wolves player was 1v1 with the keeper if not for the obvious foul. Must be counted as denying a goal scoring chance.
Second situation, wrestles Wolves player in the box, denying him the chance to control the ball.
Feels like the guys in the VAR rooms really have different ways of thinking.
These guys were desperate to side with the ref regardless, some other are desperate to make themselves important, like digging up stuff with Manchester United star player Casemiro, stuff that were worth red card for him, but not for most other players doing the very same thing. There is not even a touch consistency from game to game.
Wolves should protest heavily.
I've watched 3 of their games now and they've had some pretty dodgy decisions go against them.
Could have had a pen against Utd.
Terrible penalty given to Luton against them.
Then you have that today, which was a disgrace.
Watching the final, and the difference between the two sports is night and day. The respect between players, between the players and ref over significant decisions, the professionalism of the ref and the review system, they really have got it down to a T and it's refreshing to watch a sporting content without theatrics and controversy dominating the game.
Just watching the end of Bournemouth game...that is a joke. You could see from first replay Rodriguez head is offside and it takes 5 minutes to work out.
They need to be putting cameras on the gantry for every 10 yard strip of turf as they seemingly can't work it out quickly from the titled angles seemingly.
They drew the lines in the wrong place something that according to Mike Dean is impossible. Apparently it's not impossible then. Makes you wonder how many times it has happened before and noone has noticed.
That’s a penalty. Although what’s annoying is us not getting one for an identical foul on Sancho when we played Newcastle last season.
It’s the stupidity of the “clear and obvious” wording. It makes the VAR completely overthink the situation. Rather than thinking is it a penalty or not, they are thinking is it a penalty and, if they don’t consider that it is, is it clear and obvious.
Here, we can all see there’s not enough contact for the player to go down like that but there is a tiniest bit of contact. That probably was enough for VAR to say it wasn’t clear and obvious enough to overturn, although we all think it’s the wrong decision.
Get rid of “clear and obvious” and stop trying to protect referees. Getting the right decision should be all that matters.
That match was a disgrace, Ronaldo got assaulted too. Was bizarre the ref seemed scared to give a pen.
Surprising that it should take so long in the Bournemouth game deciding which angle and frame to draw lines from
I think the problem for a game like the Wolves one is that they would have had these terrible decisions even if VAR was not there. It has just added to the agony of it. You would hope that VAR would correct the poor or difficult decisions but they don't seem to be getting a lot of the obvious ones sorted out. It is a little worrying for me that with 10 different replays they still can't get it right.
So would most teams, Liverpool could have that Spurs goal flagged offside. Utd could have had the goal against Arsenal allowed.
I don't think it would only apply to Wolves, they were shafted yesterday and questions need to be asked why a shite penalty for little/no contact was given to Newcastle. But, a situation with even more contact wasn't given at the other end. Sky won't even acknowledge it or put it in the highlights, but are adamant during the game that the Newcastle one is a penalty.
This "clear and obvious error" wording needs to go, if it's wrong it's wrong and the VAR room should be able to tell the referee that.
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I can think of a couple of game deciding decisions against us just this year. We lost 3 games because of wierd, crazy decisions like that. Why that happens to us is for people like refs to answer.
feck off
Var is killing football, that's fecking stupid
This is beyond pathetic 
Knew as soon as it was Oliver. He’ll find ANYTHING to justify his extra payments from City owners.
Corrupt
Corrupt
Football no longer a contact sport
Do we get a replay against Arsenal now for the penalty not given for the foul on Hojlund with substantially more contact?
Michael Oliver, the UAE paid ref, calls for a nothing penalty for City. Seriously how does this guy still ref in our league? It's a disgrace.
we've probably had like 10 occasions similar to that this season (Hojlund vs Gabriel being one obvious one); yet they chose to give this. OkRIP Football.