VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

TrustInJanuzaj said:
Well it’s not because before VAR there’s absolutely no way that goal doesn’t stand. So people can quote the rules all they like but the fact is that VAR has put the rules under a microscope that was never the intention.
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Before VAR all incorrect goals would stand so it's a moot point. The intention of VAR is to correct/aid the refs on the pitch and that's exactly what happened with Evans goal, according to the rules the goal should not stand and since the refs missed what happened VAR was used to correct their decision.

There's tons of problems with VAR and I'm becoming more and more against it the longer it's used because of the insane inconsistency, but Evans goal was a textbook example of it working like it should imo.
 
I think it's a pen as man before ball but im guessing it wasn't given because the first touch doesnt knock Pellestri off balance.
 
TsuWave said:
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My wifi was playing up and I missed this, but how in heaven's sake is that not given? We're not even 10 games into the season and there's already been loads of really baffling decisions against us, probably about as many as games played. In this game, it didn't go against us because we won comfortably anyway, but there have been some downright damaging calls too.

But you get one thing in your favour (Onana on GW1), which is given that way pretty consistently anyway, and you get a national campaign against us, refs suspended and an apology from PGMOL. It's not even subtle, really.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
My wifi was playing up and I missed this, but how in heaven's sake is that not given? We're not even 10 games into the season and there's already been loads of really baffling decisions against us, probably about as many as games played. In this game, it didn't go against us because we won comfortably anyway, but there have been some downright damaging calls too.

But you get one thing in your favour (Onana on GW1), which is given that way pretty consistently anyway, and you get a national campaign against us, refs suspended and an apology from PGMOL. It's not even subtle, really.
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Yeah, I thought that too at the time. Absolutely nailed on. He clattered Pellistri a half a stride before the shot (which was blocked, by the same lunge) Another brilliant example of VAR being a waste of everyone’s time.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, I thought that too at the time. Absolutely nailed on. He clattered Pellistri a half a stride before the shot (which was blocked, by the same lunge) Another brilliant example of VAR being a waste of everyone’s time.
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The only thing I'm wondering is if there's VAR at this stage of the competition? (I seem to recall from last season that there's not necessarily VAR at each stage in the cups)

But even with that, it should have been given in real time - it's a blatant foul.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, I thought that too at the time. Absolutely nailed on. He clattered Pellistri a half a stride before the shot (which was blocked, by the same lunge) Another brilliant example of VAR being a waste of everyone’s time.
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VAR is bad enough without blaming it for games where it wasn't actually used.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
The only thing I'm wondering is if there's VAR at this stage of the competition? (I seem to recall from last season that there's not necessarily VAR at each stage in the cups)

But even with that, it should have been given in real time - it's a blatant foul.
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In real time it looked like a brilliant block, to be fair. Not one United player complained. I certainly wouldn’t have any issue with the ref not giving a penalty in real time.
 
Flying high said:
VAR is bad enough without blaming it for games where it wasn't actually used.
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Fair enough. What competition was it when we Boro scored against us after a blatant handball which VAR reviewed and decided was ok? Was that the FA cup?

EDIT: Also. This is another reason why VAR is bullshit. It surely has to be used in all competitions or not at all?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Fair enough. What competition was it when we Boro scored against us after a blatant handball which VAR reviewed and decided was ok? Was that the FA cup?

EDIT: Also. This is another reason why VAR is bullshit. It surely has to be used in all competitions or not at all?
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I don't mind it not being used in all competitions, but surely it has to be used in all games across a competition? The arbitrary "only PL stadiums" in the FA Cup is particularly infuriating.
 
TsuWave said:
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Everybody knows what agenda looks like. No secret at all.

I’m still waiting for our club to take some decisions. Start with going out with official complain about how We are treated by referees to not allow media to OldTrafford or speak to media for couple of months.
 
90 + 5min said:
Everybody knows what agenda looks like. No secret at all.

I’m still waiting for our club to take some decisions. Start with going out with official complain about how We are treated by referees to not allow media to OldTrafford or speak to media for couple of months.
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Ten Hag has probably been told to keep quiet as United can't afford to be paying the fines.
 
Withnail said:
He got a shot away so it's grand always seems to be the logic.
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Yep, same reason we all complain about players going down too easily and yet if a player stays on their feet, stumbles a few metres and shanks a shot they get nothing. Unless you complain or its super obvious you won't get anything and there is zero reward for letting the ref decide these things on his own.
 
Pellistri needs to be clever and should have gone down at the first contact without kicking.
 
It’s such a pleasure watching the League Cup without VAR. Bad calls and appeals for penalties and offsides are forgotten immediately. Refreshing
 
njred said:
It’s such a pleasure watching the League Cup without VAR. Bad calls and appeals for penalties and offsides are forgotten immediately. Refreshing
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Sure it was nice to be able to wholeheartedly celebrate a goal the moment it was scored, but I can't wait to get back to what football's really about, squinting my eyes at a screen and spending a week debating whether the last strand of a player's long hair shouldn't be where the line is drawn and his actual scalp is onside even though he scored with his foot.
 
We got Crystal Palace players kicking our but a good challange from Casemiro gets you yellow. Great.
 
VAR and referees are doing their best every game to give us hard times. I have no idea why we are treated like this.
 
Rado_N said:
Looked like they had a player offside in Onana’s view but that only counts when United score apparently
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Not how I would have worded it but agree with the sentiment
 
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