Another week, another joke decision.
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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And another decision where the media reaction will dictate whether the decision was correct or not. Let's see how this one plays out.
Refereeing team won't be stood down this time tough.
I'm actually happy with that not being a handball... He didn't know much about it and it didn't really effect play.
Whether it should have been handball by the laws though is a different matter
Whether it should have been handball by the laws though is a different matter
How the hell was that not a penalty? Please someone explain.
I actually think it would've been a harsh penalty. His arms were out, yes, but it was a natural jumping motion and the arm wasn't elevated above his head. There was no hand movement towards the ball, and he can't have seen the ball more than a fraction of a second before it hit him as it passed the other players, giving him very little time to react.
I do however think that if that was a United player media would be up in arms about it and the referee would be under much more scrutiny than they'll be now.
I do however think that if that was a United player media would be up in arms about it and the referee would be under much more scrutiny than they'll be now.
So you can extend your hands now anywhere or make yourself bigger because you don’t know much about it? In that case only blatant intentional handballs are penalties then ala Suarez v Ghana.
I don't know what handball is anymore tbh.
If we knew that VAR would consistently not give those, then fair enough. But you can guarantee something just as innocuous will be given.
I think I'm still expecting all the handballs we've seen for the last few seasons to be given.
If we knew that VAR would consistently not give those, then fair enough. But you can guarantee something just as innocuous will be given.
I think I'm still expecting all the handballs we've seen for the last few seasons to be given.
In my perfect world of pens, pretty much! it'd be stuff like that or what Romero did the other week vs us where he star jumped into a block.
I don't think there's too much "unnatural" in JWPs movement arms are sort of up because he's jumping (though they are a bit high)... Think that'll be the VAR justification anyway. That and him having little time to react.
Pathetic again. WHEN do we get the obligation to make VAR/ref communication public after games? And implement harsh punishment. 1 clear wrong decision = 5 game ban and no payment.
I love you bro.
The decision-making is a complete lottery. Assign your choices to head or tails, flip a coin, and then play the edit the footage video game drawing lines and angles to justify what the coin told the official to decide.
Imagine one of our players did that. Would have been called a penalty or if not called, Sky and their pals would have ensured that the ref gets suspended.
Anyone got a clip of the JWP one? I’ve read a few articles on the match and it’s not even mentioned in any of them.
Sounds similar to the one we got against grealish last season?
Absolute moronic goal given for City 
We might as well use it only for decisions based solely on technology. The human decisions are shocking
Absolute moronic goal given for City
And there'll be absolute zero said by the media cretanous cnuts
This has been a disastrous start of the season for VAR. Everybody needs sacking and starting it again. Michael Oliver is constantly bottling on field decisions
Right, get rid of VAR. The PL is obviously isn’t using it for the purpose it was intended for.
That should be offside, but by the current rules it is not. Blame the rules, not the referees.
Nothing to see here. Had it been us it would have made big fat morning headlines.Absolute moronic goal given for City
so Michael Oliver is dropped for the next round of games.
That's how all this works
That's how all this works
It absolutely is, by the current rules.
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside
Could you please clarify what this rule is?
Howard Webb,fair play. Somehow made var even more infuriating and useless
He wasn't obstructing the view of the goalkeeper, no offside. He wasn't physically interfeering with the goalkeeper so he didn't impact his ability to reach the ball, no offside.
The fact that there are still so many contentious outcomes despite VAR tells you that its primary legacy has been to leave a crushing doubt after every goal that stops you from celebrating with your all for fear of it being disallowed.
That was worse than the Wolves decision. Absolutely disgraceful. What's the point in having VAR if the wrong decisions keep being made when they are blatantly obvious?
It does seem to be that VAR is mostly used to give goals that they want to give if they can find a way to claim that it's somehow justified.
Not surprising when he himself was a dog shite ref who somehow gained a reputation as favouring Utd despite then giving us no decisions for a decade.
How many times the past few years have we had to change the rules of the game just so to accommodate this piece of crap technology.
It's frustrating for fans and moreover for players if we start meddling with the basic features of the game.
So hypothetically, the attacking team could have 2-3 players beside the GK during a free kick and as long as they aren't touching the ball, the aren't offside.
It's frustrating for fans and moreover for players if we start meddling with the basic features of the game.
So hypothetically, the attacking team could have 2-3 players beside the GK during a free kick and as long as they aren't touching the ball, the aren't offside.
It does exactly that. It interfered with Leno's ability to challenge for the ball. Leno cannot move until it passed Akanji so if that isn't interference, I don't know what is. And what makes it worse is that Akanji tried to play it.
Ball literally goes past him obstructing the keeper view of the ball there mate.
He did obstruct and interfere. The dude didn’t even celebrate, he just walked away. He knew it was off.
I am biased but he was clearly offside and moved towards the ball to try to flick it. That impacts the keeper and hence should definitely be offside.
There’s a pic going round of the player kicking / getting out of the way a split second after the ball goes past him. VAR May pause the video and say the ball is already past but I real terms it’s basically a simultaneous action
The goalie actually reset himself.
Nah, he isn't physically in the way and that's what that part of the rule you're quoting deals with. It's true that Leno can't move until the ball is past him, but that doesn't mean it's offisde (now again, it should mean he's offside, it just doesn't by the current rules). If he stood on the goal line and the Leno jumped into him, it would have been offside considering he was actually physically interfeering with him trying to reach the ball.
If he tried to play the ball he would have been offside, but to me it's quite clear he is doing the best not to touch the ball. That's probably what VAR determined as well.
To me this isn't nearly as controversial as the non offside call on Rashford last season at Old Trafford.
I think he tried to flick the ball. He jumped over it, and then there was a flick towards the ball, he just missed it!
It's a ridiculous rule.