Never a pen.
It’s not multiple people if you simply ignore the others who pointed it out. Me for example.
Bringing a frame the ball not touching his arm and is going away from his arm. Look at the video ffs and stop wumming.
You don't really think this is the "bottom of the armpit do you?
Of course, you're here talking about this and ignoring the clear red card the other way.
There’s the multiple people pointing it out before you changed from simply thinking it was a foul to it should’ve been a red. What now?
Yeah the balls going across the arm, not straight on the arm as this pic suggest
He had his hand there because of Bremer's foul...
Just a barca fan wumming, I hope anyway.Nobody thinks that was a penalty on Fred? surely?
The guy heads it at him for point blank range
Fred knows nothing about it, his arm isn't in an unnatural position and he doesn't stretch it out to block the ball.
The correct decision.
Yeah that screenshot is misleading. Good no call IMO
Nobody thinks that was a penalty on Fred? surely?
The guy heads it at him for point blank range
Fred knows nothing about it, his arm isn't in an unnatural position and he doesn't stretch it out to block the ball.
The correct decision.
I'm sorry what?
Mate it's so obviously a red card that I didn't think I even needed to fecking qualify my post with it. Jesus christ, you cannot be this precious. I think me saying that it was a foul is enough given he was the fecking last man.
It's really strange that so many Barca fans would have the flairs of other clubs in these comments, huh?
I mean, I don't know why I'm even taking the bait. It's a United forum after all. You naturally have unconscious bias. Anyone that thinks it was a penalty is obviously a Barca fan or a WUM or hilariously a 'closet dipper'. It couldn't possibly be that some people see incidents differently. No sir. Not at all.
The still picture is not the best way to analyze this one - Bremer fouled Centonze in the process, using his two arms on his shoulders to jump, the handball was a direct result of that foul, which was given by the referee. It was an excellent call, I was genuinely surprised.
Interesting, off to YT to check it out.
Do you really think Man Utd are so hated that random ass fans with no affiliation to United or United's rivals or Barcelona and Barcelona's rivals would be displaying bias? This is the only thing I don't get with the responses in this thread. It's like some of you are unable to grasp that some people simply saw the incident differently. Hell, there's even a few United fans in this thread and on that Reddit thread who also think it was a penalty. That's football for you. Almost all refereeing decisions are subjective to some extent. It really isn't this deep.I had a quick look at that thread. I wouldn’t call it non-partisan. It’s not the evidence you think it is. And yes people can simply think differently. When it comes to people like you, with an established history of being a wum, I’m inclined to believe that it’s not simply difference of opinion.1. I didn't get annoyed at a United fan being unhappy with the ref. I got annoyed at the suggestion the ref was pro Barcelona with the 'VARcelona' comment in particular. It's clearly nonsense. Whether or not you think that Barca deserved a penalty, surely if the ref was biased he would've given it? It was enough of a shout that he could've given it without it being obviously led by bias.
2. Of course there's people who are biased against United. That doesn't mean that a whole bunch of football fans from across the world on a messageboard are biased against United. It's not like I linked to a RAWK thread
That's the last I'll say on it anyway mate as we're just going round in circles at this point.
They should be terrified of making the wrong decision full stop.
This only happened because Arteta cried for 2 points back.
It happened because the media got behind Arteta.
Like using still pictures to judge handball you mean?
You should not need to have been a referee to be a full-time VAR. Anyone working in football and following a formation for a year or two would be competent enough to do it. As in "just do the job and don't forget to do it"
It happened because he's rubbish at his job and already made game defining mistakes this season and got punished with rounds off. You cannot be making such basic errors when you're a full time VAR referee.
Is he the one that drew the wrong line or didn't bother to draw one?
The fact that this is a genuine question
