I'm shocked and outraged.
VAR and Refs | General Discussion
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Ahahaaa. That is genius
Suspended for saying something that is absolutely 100% the truth? The worlds gone mad.
I wouldn't sack him. Looks a bit of a tit sure but he's a human being and I think an apology would suffice.
So, we had so many crazy decisions against us and only time they suspend someone is when someone talks bad about a manager.
Agreed. But Howard is so sensitive to and led by the media reaction that I'd be surprised if Coote escapes unscathed here.
Still haven't received an apology from the PGMOL for that West Ham penalty
I don't know really. What damage has he actually done. Klopp is gone and he's just said a few poor things. If he owns it and apologises I'd let him keep his job personally. Don't like cancel culture.
Everyone has bad decisions against them. This isn’t equivalent in any way shape or form. It’s undermining of the individual’s integrity and neutrality and it compromises the organisation he works for.
This isn’t missing an offside, getting VAR wrong or giving a soft penalty.
Kind of too obvious to make this point, no?
Absolutely this. Where's the problem?
Even ignoring my team, I'm not sure how you can keep him now. The perception of bias is just as important as actual bias.
With all of the advancements in AI, disappointing that somebody didn’t super impose Michael Olivers face over Cootes.
Missed opportunity.
With this being in the news today, surely this has to be addressed on Match Officials Mic'd Up, right??? hahaha
Yeah, pretty sure that's not what's happening here. Or have words like "suspension" and "sacking" been completely replaced?
That wouldn’t be cancel culture at all, a referee just like a judge needs to be neutral and impartial and that can’t be compromised or they are removed from a case/game, simple as that. And I know they likely aren’t actually neutral, perhaps quite a few of them think that Liverpool are shit, but at the very very least they need to act like they are.
Why wouldn't you think Klopp was a cnut as a referee, he even explained it, accused him of lying, had multiple pops at him. Probably tried to intimidate him.
Being on a video where his mate says he "hates the Scousers" though is quite problematic.
Being on a video where his mate says he "hates the Scousers" though is quite problematic.
Maybe not but just don't like when someone makes a mistake ( which isn't even that bad) and everyone piles on.
You saw similar when Michael Oliver (i think) went for that piss-up a few years ago before a game.
Exactly.
It’s not one or the other though? Plenty of reasons that could/should merit suspension.
Refereeing abroad and being paid by (effectively) City’s owners is a clear conflict. Even more so, when that person double yellow cards a United player for dissent (seen that before/since?), calls a ref over for a pen and doesn’t show clear fouls in a Manchester derby, calls a ref over for a pen that EVERYONE (including Webb) admitted shouldn’t have happened, etc.
They’re not “bad decisions”, they’re unique and for/against specific clubs and all in, clearly deserved investigation. He didn’t even get a talking to… he was given City the very next game and the highest profile match the week after.
I’d rather have a ref call our manager a cnut and give decent decisions.
Proof IMO that Klopp is in the ref’s heads and they’re scared to upset Liverpool. Shock.
It is pretty much impossible to find referees that are not biased in some way.
Sure, but they don't have videos of them showing it. That's the point.
Man gives honest opinion.
He called him a German cnut too. Even without that comment, it's not a good look - save that kind of talk once you've finished referring.
Shock. Manager acts like a cnut all the time and referees think he’s a cnut.
Yeah, that's not the problematic part at all.
how dumb do you have to be to record yourself saying this. Hilarious all the same, but yeah obviously he's getting firedTrue, but they aren’t on film saying those things about teams so at least we can try to believe that the mistakes they make are honest.
He doesn’t need to be fired for me either by the way. He can have midtable or relegation games with no impact on Liverpool or our direct competitors, do games in the Championship, … But I think you can understand most fans wouldn’t want him near any of our games anymore? I just saw on Twitter that he was the guy missing the Rodri and Odegaard handballs as well - a lot easier to forgive him for that if such videos are not all over the internet then.
The guy was obviously out of his tree and being taken advantage of by someone videoing him who then fecked him over by releasing it. We all say stupid shit when drunk.
Nice friends.
And? Don't get drunk then if you're going to say or do something to compromise your job.
Also the way they are speaking in the video makes it seem like it's not recent and was taken while Klopp was still managing them.
Well that's Liverpool winning the league then. 
Wouldn't you rather just have neither? 'Something stupid happened here, but since something stupid also happened somewhere else under different circumstances and had no consequences, let's do nothing now either' always seems like such a poor argument. Especially since it leads to a world without consequences, cause next time the latter happens again, another person will say the same thing, inverted.
Anyway, the ref had lost his semblance of impartiality. Sacking seems a little much if there have been no performance issues, but for public perception, a strongly worded apology followed by a break in refereeing while he takes some sort of bias course would seem like a minimum response.
There's no way he carries on surely? For one he won't be allowed to ref another Liverpool game because every single decision he makes will be considered either biased or overcompensatory. But then where does it stop because surely he can't ref games involving Liverpools direct rivals for trophies for the same reasons. He's compromised himself here I don't think he can ref another Premier League game
Claiming the video is a fake is a bold move. Let’s see if it pays off for him.
If you're fecked either way you might as well go all in on the 1% chancer.
Sure, such a high profile personality in the country. Why wouldn't someone want to go to this effort to cast fake aspersions on his spotless character?
But Klopp is a cnut and he is also German. What's the problem?
Tall poppy syndrome. They got Capone for tax evasion and Cootey for being absolutely off his bulb and saying some shit.