Have the guidance for how VAR should intervene changed? If the answer here is 'yes' then there is no point comparing things that happened two seasons ago with what's happening now.
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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Players are allowed their position on the pitch. Don't have to get out of the way.
Not allowed to move in to an opposing player. Don't see Sanchez do that, he's just standing there.
Just holding your ground and opposition player running in to you is never a foul.
Wow
I agree, we should bring Nanis red card up more often instead of Casemiros.
You mean the one where he boots someone in the chest? Shocking red card!
That's also a red card as no attempt to play the ball and clear goalscoring opportunity.
The sticking point about Casemiro's is that they were clearly two wrong decisions but the media silence around them was deafening. Compare that with a deserved ted card for Rice. We lost Casemiro for 9 games. They happened in relatively quick succession too. They were quite memorable for those reasons.
Surprised that Gabriel goal wasn't ruled out.
Yep, it definitely could have been.
Do you want to deal with Arteta's whining?
a pretty quick VAR check and not much Spurs appeal..
It was quite soft and I wouldn’t want it to be given. But if you place both hands on an opponent’s back, you’re always running the risk of being penalised.
Sanchez extends his right knee. He's still moving towards Evanilson even after the latter touches the ball. It's an absolutely stonewall penalty.
Semi caught that live (looked like pulled but couldn’t see in detail and no replay… on channel I watched it on).
We do nothing, we keep getting them… we say something and media says “United moaning”. Personally, I’d raise them all
I’ve just seen the Timber vs Vicario incident in the Spurs vs Arsenal game and I can’t believe that Casemiro hasn’t been given a 3 match ban!
Should be a second yellow for the reaction if not a straight red... Double standards indeed...
Am I the only one who feel that the standard of the referees so far greatly improved?
I love it that the referees nor VAR are giving cheap penalties anymore for ridiculous accidental handballs or “there was a contact and he had a right to dive” penalties.
I love it that the referees nor VAR are giving cheap penalties anymore for ridiculous accidental handballs or “there was a contact and he had a right to dive” penalties.
Missed this until now (I try and avoid watching City).
No red….
No red….
Missed this until now (I try and avoid watching City).
No red….
Casemiro would’ve got done for GBH if that was him.
Taylor has been stood down for a week after handing out a record amount of yellows last weekend.
He's a shit ref but I think that's a stupid decision. A lot of those cards were given, correctly, for dissent. He tried to stamp it out and get players to fecking behave and now he gets suspended for a week. The result of this will be refs being scared to punish players for dissent in future fixtures now.
He's a shit ref but I think that's a stupid decision. A lot of those cards were given, correctly, for dissent. He tried to stamp it out and get players to fecking behave and now he gets suspended for a week. The result of this will be refs being scared to punish players for dissent in future fixtures now.
If he's been sat down for giving out too many yellows at the same time that Saints and Chelsea were fined for getting too many yellows, that's very strange.
And were the dissents because he was doing a shit job for both teams?
Having previously been in favour, I must admit it’s rather nice watching a match without VAR.
This game could have been stopped and analysed on many occasions, but they’ve just got on with it, and it makes for better viewing, in my opinion.
This game could have been stopped and analysed on many occasions, but they’ve just got on with it, and it makes for better viewing, in my opinion.
Missed this until now (I try and avoid watching City).
No red….
Only explanation is that they were looking at the wrong leg.
Which game are you talking about ? United's ? If so, yes it's nice to watch when you are going to destroy the opponent anyway. Not so much when it's a tight league or CL game and every decision counts.
It wasn't a challenge because that would imply Stephens was trying to win the ball. He was just trying to stop Garnacho breaking free by cynically fouling him, with perhaps a bit of frustration at being caught out of position.
I've absolutely no idea why anyone would feel sorry for Jack Stephens being sent off there.
The knee is a very sensitive area and it's totally exposed. It doesn't take full-blooded contact for something to go snap and any challenge like that should be a straight red.
Yep, United’s, and that’s a good point you make. Maybe it was the lack of pressure/nerves I was enjoying, rather than the absence of VAR.
Why so reluctant?
It's breaking his heart having to give him a second yellow. He has to manage his emotions, perfom his duty and most importantly he has to "look after himself".
What a bunch of wet wipes we have in charge.
I would say the fact that we're in the third week of the storm in a teacup "controversy" around this fully-deserved but minor-incident sending off highlights exactly why they were reluctant.
They sound like people who rightly recognised that it had to be a second yellow, but also rightly recognised that sending him off for it was going to be a pain in the hole and prompt the usual "they need to show common sense" criticism. Because the whining that has followed was 100% inevitable.
I just wish they were a bit stronger. They made the right decision, which is the main thing. I find the passive language used irritating. The whiners are equally as irritating because they are just plain wrong.
Tbh they are damned if they do and damned if they don't, sometime they just can't win
There should never be any irritation about the lack of consistency. Especially during the same game, with 2 extremely differents versions (in severity) of a same incident.
Imagine the Casemiro saga with an opposition player really putting his hands to the neck of a United player, during the same game, and the ref gave nothing. This forum would self combust.
You can also interpret the Assistant Ref words in the opposite way: he's instantly warning the ref that Rice is on a yellow. I don't think the ref needs VAR to be remembered who he has already carded. It can sound like a "do you really want to send him off for that". Once the ref says "he has no choice" the assistants just follow his lead.The whole thing felt weird when you consider what happened before and the unpunished kick by the defender.
Let's just hope they manage to apply the same rules for 90min for everyone from now on.
Exactly what the intention was in my opinion. Safe to say that you shouldn't be clouding the referee's judgement in this way.
How is that not a pen 