US Politics

A very good, free-to-read, article by Norman Matloff (an emeritus professor of computer science at the University of California, Davis) titled:
"How the H-1B System Undercuts American Workers"

Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with the compactmag, but I fished it out of a conservative subreddit and at a quick scan it seems to have a conservative tilt. Just as an FYI.
 
You can change jobs while in h1b, so they cannot hang the visas over your had.

H1B is very similar to skilled worker visa in the UK (which is what I am on). And I could be a lot of things, underpaid is not one of them. Same for everyone of dozens of people I know who are on H1B (in one case getting paid over a million per year).
A US H1B visa is tied to the employer that filed the petition, whilst you can change job for that employeryou cannot move to a different employer without making a new application
 
yes, obviously it's wrong to exploit workers
It's also illegal, when you go thru immigration on a H1B visa they give you a leaflet outlining your rights to fair pay etc and who to contact if you are think you are being exploited
 
A US H1B visa is tied to the employer that filed the petition, whilst you can change job for that employeryou cannot move to a different employer without making a new application
But you do not need to win the lottery again to be able to change the employee, correct? It is more an administrative procedure rather than the nightmare process to get H1B in the first place.
 
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A US H1B visa is tied to the employer that filed the petition, whilst you can change job for that employeryou cannot move to a different employer without making a new application
Not entirely true. You can work for a different employer while remaining in status as long as the new employer has filed for you. You also have about 2 months to find something else if you were to lose the job of the original petitioner.
 
Not entirely true. You can work for a different employer while remaining in status as long as the new employer has filed for you. You also have about 2 months to find something else if you were to lose the job of the original petitioner.
Indeed and as long as you don't travel
 
But you do not need to win the lottery again to be able to change the employee, correct? It is more an administrative procedure rather than the nightmare process to get H1B in the first place.
Not entirely sure but I'm fairly sure the same restrictions are in place
 
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I think the system needs to improve, to make it easier to convert H1Bs to permanent residence, and I find the quotas for different countries a bit weird. But the point of tech workers in h1Bs being underpaid and modern servants is just populism nonsense.

It' easy for anybody that isn't Indian / Chinese / Mexican due to the diversity lottery. For us, we are fecked
 
You're talking shit.

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Woah, stop sitting on the fence. Say what you really feel.

It's not something I'm knowledgeable about outside of what I've read or seen over the years so this thread with people talking from personal experience has been great to get some actual insight rather than skewed or biased reporting. I must admit though, much of what I have read or seen has always strongly suggested that while many on these visas are well paid, sadly many are not and this thread supports that.
 
I expect those workers who are getting exploited are mostly too scared to say anything given that could get them deported
 
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Woah, stop sitting on the fence. Say what you really feel.

It's not something I'm knowledgeable about outside of what I've read or seen over the years so this thread with people talking from personal experience has been great to get some actual insight rather than skewed or biased reporting. I must admit though, much of what I have read or seen has always strongly suggested that while many on these visas are well paid, sadly many are not and this thread supports that.
There are definintely some abuses going on, how widespread it is I have no idea

I have personal experience of myself, who is white British but also numerous people who are Indian which wwith hom I have worked with that were on H1B visas.

None of the people I ever worked with were underpaid, they were paid the same as their fellow workers, some of them are now permanent residents and some returned home.

I suspect, but I have no proof, that abuses that do go one are implemented generally by American companies, why do I suspect this, because American companies tend to have the worst benefit packages because they aren't mandated by law,

When I've looked at the jobs market for positions that might interest me, in the majority of cases the best benefits are usually associated with non-US owned companies, nenefits such as parental leave, bereavement leave, more than 30 days vacation per year, life insurance, disability insurance
 
I expect those workers who are getting exploited are mostly too scared to say anything given that could get them deported

Absolutely. Better to be exploited in the USA than earning next to feck all and living in abject poverty or constant or potential danger. That's the trouble with the disparity of the countries many of those on visas arrive from. The dream of life in the US, even one where you are exploited, is still often far more preferable to the alternative of staying put. Also, I expect many believe that by simply being in the US and often being more qualified gives them a far better chance of other jobs and improving their circumstances again over being back in their own country.