Ruling apparently was more of a certification of a previous ruling on a similar Texas case, not that he sees validity in allowing women the right to choose for themselves unfortunately. The next couple of weeks of SCOTUS decisions on abortion will be rather interesting.
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Maybe Roberts can play defense until Biden comes in and can begin packing the court
Susan Collins must be regretting what she said about Kavanaugh now. Hopefully she will be one of the casualties come November.
I knew he would pivot one day.
Good boy Roberts. Third big decision in a row that he sides with the liberal justices.
I think that this should lock the Maine elections for the senate. The Democrats should massively target Susan Collins on her Kavanaugh vote.
Strictly speaking, I believe he is right. US constitution does not say anything about abortion. Obviously, I think that Roe vs Wade was the right decision, but that was taken by a bunch of unelected judges because the US political system has made it impossible for the senate/house to legislate. From what he says though, he looks more to want to overrule it cause he doesn't like abortion too much. While Scalia for example (at least on what he said), wanted to overrule it cause it had nothing to do with the constitution, not because he was personally against abortion. Either way, Thomas is a twat.
In most countries I am aware of, abortion was legalized by the senate passing a law (or in the case of Ireland, a referendum taking place).
roe v wade wasnt based on a right to abortion. you can question its legality or whatever but it never claims ta direct link like that.
Enlighten me what do you mean by that.
it was based on a right to privacy, based on an earlier judgement (regarding contraception). the controversy is that
1. privacy isnt mentioned within the constitution either, the judges said that other rights taken together add up to a right to privacy. (indian SC delivered a similar judgement).
2. the relationship between having a right to privacy and having the choice of abortion
Thanks! I admit that I have never read Roe vs Wade verdict, just read articles describing/interpreting it.
Before you start slapping Roberts on the back.
Chief Justice Roberts makes clear he still wants to severely restrict abortion
https://americanindependent.com/joh...e-court-louisiana-reproductive-rights-scotus/
Chief Justice Roberts makes clear he still wants to severely restrict abortion
https://americanindependent.com/joh...e-court-louisiana-reproductive-rights-scotus/
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Then surely Montana can now have a say in what each religious school can and cannot instruct.
In case you thought the Rs were in any discouraged from continuing to hide their shady business :
Senate strips provision from intelligence bill requiring campaigns to report foreign election help
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/politics/senate-removes-ban-foreign-election-help/index.html
As a side note.. Marsha Blackburn from TN is coming up way too often these days as a devout fanatic. Including in relation to this news.
Senate strips provision from intelligence bill requiring campaigns to report foreign election help
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/politics/senate-removes-ban-foreign-election-help/index.html
As a side note.. Marsha Blackburn from TN is coming up way too often these days as a devout fanatic. Including in relation to this news.
Oklahoma isn’t turning purple anytime soon, but in perhaps a broader sign of things to come we voted to expand healthcare coverage against a GOP onslaught. I like AOC’s snark here...
Not sure how the NYT paywall works in the UK or if you get a few free articles, but this is absolutely superb summary imo: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
He basically said that the court ruled on something similar previously and based on that precedent, he can't now rule differently. He's more concerned with the consistency of the rulings that anything else.
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A great read:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/senate-filibuster-monument-white-supremacy/613579/
The Atlantic:
"In fairness, the filibuster was not explicitly designed as a tool for white supremacists. In fact, the filibuster was not “designed” at all. It was created by accident, part of a sloppy revision of the Senate rule book by Aaron Burr just a few months after his famous duel with Alexander Hamilton. In a careless effort to remove what he thought was redundant language, he cut the “previous question motion,” which would have allowed a majority of lawmakers to end debate and force a vote on a bill.
Over the next few decades, Congress would consider nearly 200 anti-lynching measures. Thanks to the unique procedures of the Senate, and the unique enthusiasm with which they were exploited by Jim Crow’s supporters, not one became law.
The result was a kind of bargain—or at least a reluctant acceptance—that shaped our democracy for decades. On the one hand, the Senate helped build the America we have today, passing the bulk of the New Deal, the Marshall Plan, the Interstate Highway System, and plenty of other big, ambitious bills. Yet, during that same time, the former Confederacy was allowed to maintain a system of autocratic, racist, one-party rule. Americans were murdered, unjustly imprisoned, denied the right to vote, and treated by their own country as subhuman—all because of the Senate’s unique and often venerated procedure."
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/senate-filibuster-monument-white-supremacy/613579/
The Atlantic:
"In fairness, the filibuster was not explicitly designed as a tool for white supremacists. In fact, the filibuster was not “designed” at all. It was created by accident, part of a sloppy revision of the Senate rule book by Aaron Burr just a few months after his famous duel with Alexander Hamilton. In a careless effort to remove what he thought was redundant language, he cut the “previous question motion,” which would have allowed a majority of lawmakers to end debate and force a vote on a bill.
Over the next few decades, Congress would consider nearly 200 anti-lynching measures. Thanks to the unique procedures of the Senate, and the unique enthusiasm with which they were exploited by Jim Crow’s supporters, not one became law.
The result was a kind of bargain—or at least a reluctant acceptance—that shaped our democracy for decades. On the one hand, the Senate helped build the America we have today, passing the bulk of the New Deal, the Marshall Plan, the Interstate Highway System, and plenty of other big, ambitious bills. Yet, during that same time, the former Confederacy was allowed to maintain a system of autocratic, racist, one-party rule. Americans were murdered, unjustly imprisoned, denied the right to vote, and treated by their own country as subhuman—all because of the Senate’s unique and often venerated procedure."
Link worked, thanks.
And, yes, differences are stark and getting worse for ordinary people.
What a dumbass...
South Dakota governor calls removal of Confederate statues effort to 'discredit' Founding Fathers
"Across America these last several weeks, we have been witnessing a very troubling situation unfold. In real time, we are watching an organized, coordinated campaign to remove and eliminate all references to our nation's founding and many other points in our history," Noem said at a Fourth of July celebration at Mount Rushmore with President Trump.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...alls-removal-of-confederate-statues-effort-to
South Dakota governor calls removal of Confederate statues effort to 'discredit' Founding Fathers
"Across America these last several weeks, we have been witnessing a very troubling situation unfold. In real time, we are watching an organized, coordinated campaign to remove and eliminate all references to our nation's founding and many other points in our history," Noem said at a Fourth of July celebration at Mount Rushmore with President Trump.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...alls-removal-of-confederate-statues-effort-to
He must have forgotten that the Confederacy lost for a second. Otherwise I can't imagine what country's founding he's talking about.
Some perspective: Game of Thrones lasted for twice as long as the Confederacy. Nazi Germany lasted for three times as long, and yet you don't see many statues of Adolf Hitler and Herman Göring in Berlin. Instead you had stuff like this:
And it's honestly not like the Confederacy was founded on any better principles than Nazi Germany. Defenders of both are truly shameful people.
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US ‘looking at’ banning TikTok and other Chinese apps: Pompeo
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/us-looking-at-banning-tiktok-and-other-chinese-apps-pompeo/
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/us-looking-at-banning-tiktok-and-other-chinese-apps-pompeo/
i think Tik Tok announced they will be leaving HK anyway
Anyway hopefully they ban chinese apps then china goes and buys twitter ... trumps meltdown (presumably on facebook) would be epic
What better way to honor Ayn Rand than taking a government handout while railing against it?
Trump administration hands emergency loans to Kanye West and Church of Scientology as small businesses go bust
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-pandemic-a9605291.html?utm_source=reddit.com
So Government handouts are not so bad after all.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-pandemic-a9605291.html?utm_source=reddit.com
So Government handouts are not so bad after all.
Not exactly US politics, but Bolsonaro has tested positive. Come on karma...
This is a problem that could’ve been avoided by canceling rent and giving people money to get through the emergency. Never seizes to amaze me how we keep systemically inflicting violence on people for something that isn’t their fault.
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As someone that had a student visa to study in the US I'm reasonably blown away by Trump, sorry, Stephen Miller's latest 'victory': ceasing student visas for any university students that are forced to switch to online learning.
Because really, kids that have spent their whole lives working towards studying at US institutions - many of whom coming from really tough backgrounds and situations - are the real criminals here.
The lack of f*cking human decency is never-ending. And it ignores the fact that most of the elite US universities rely on that foreign tuition to even exist in their current form.
Because really, kids that have spent their whole lives working towards studying at US institutions - many of whom coming from really tough backgrounds and situations - are the real criminals here.
The lack of f*cking human decency is never-ending. And it ignores the fact that most of the elite US universities rely on that foreign tuition to even exist in their current form.
Kanye West has called his political party ”The Birthday Party” and I found this far too funny 
I just finally read that Forbes interview. Wow, he talks some nonsense with the 'mark of the beast' stuff about vaccines (@Wibble rejects this theory) and his inability to utter more than two sentences without dragging God into the conversation.Kanye West has called his political party ”The Birthday Party” and I found this far too funny