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Excellent point and that would include Roe vs Wade. Might as well take back his nomination.
Collins, Flake and co could be looking for cover for refusing to back him.
I don't get this. How come the Republicans in blue-leaning districts are not under pressure to vote with the Dems?Going to guess Collins, Murkowsi, and Flake will each vote no....which would allow Manchin to vote yes.
It's not really bizaree. He's blamed for raping a girl in a drunken state. Him saying "yeah, I drank a little too much sometimes" would make it so that the media would twist it in a way that basically implies his guilt "Well he obviously drank a lot, so that means that he raped the girl when he was in a blackout". And he would have no way to prove it isn't true. It was more than 30 years ago. That will be just enough to discredit him, regardless of whether it's the truth or not.
As for him drinking during high school/university, I mean - who didn't?
I don't get this. How come the Republicans in blue-leaning districts are not under pressure to vote with the Dems?
I get that. I don't know why Dems are under pressure to vote with Rs on issues when there's nothing like that on the other side. I am not talking about Flake, Collins and Murkowski.They aren’t blue leaning. Murkowski has issues with Kavanaugh because of Roe v Wade and issues related to his positions on indigenous/native American policies that are unique to Alaska. Collins is just a liberal Republican who has Roe v Wade and “maybe it’s not a good idea to appoint a rapist to the Supreme Court” concerns, and Flake is fence sitting because his buddy Coons convinced him to support a delay to do an investigation. Each of them are doing it for slightly different reasons.
Also other Republicans that could really be pressured by this aren't up for re-election until 2020 when the map favors the Democrats a bit more.
Going to guess Collins, Murkowsi, and Flake will each vote no....which would allow Manchin to vote yes.
Lindsey's working hard to become the next AG.
I get that. I don't know why Dems are under pressure to vote with Rs on issues when there's nothing like that on the other side. I am not talking about Flake, Collins and Murkowski.
Lindsey's working hard to become the next AG.
There are no centrist Dems in liberal states so there would be no opposite examples to the Manchin situation.
Don't mind my ignorance. Is this phenomenon new for the Dems, has it been proven that it helps Dems keep seats? Because if not, voting for a serious conservative to the court for the next 30 years just to keep a seat, seems like a serious risk.Because they are in heavily Republican states that Trump won and are reliant on centrist independents to break their way to get reeelcted. There are no centrist Dems in liberal states so there would be no opposite examples to the Manchin situation.
Because the Senate is heavily tilted towards red states. There aren’t really any ‘blue state’ R aside from Collins and she is in that position because of a wacky, heavily red CD there and street cred built up over the years.I get that. I don't know why Dems are under pressure to vote with Rs on issues when there's nothing like that on the other side. I am not talking about Flake, Collins and Murkowski.
Because the Senate is heavily tilted towards red states. There aren’t really any ‘blue state’ R aside from Collins and she is in that position because of a wacky, heavily red CD there and street cred built up over the years.
They aren’t blue leaning. Murkowski has issues with Kavanaugh because of Roe v Wade and issues related to his positions on indigenous/native American policies that are unique to Alaska. Collins is just a liberal Republican who has Roe v Wade and “maybe it’s not a good idea to appoint a rapist to the Supreme Court” concerns, and Flake is fence sitting because his buddy Coons convinced him to support a delay to do an investigation. Each of them are doing it for slightly different reasons.
Lindsey's working hard to become the next AG.
It’s as if electoral system designed by a bunch of privileged old white men 300 years ago doesn’t work well at all with shifting demographics and increasing urban concentration that is a staple of modern life.Thanks. Pretty fecked up.
You really think that Coons convinced Flake? I think it's probably because he is retiring from the senate and thinking of a 2020 presidential run. "Doing the right thing" on Kavanaugh is one of the decisions keeping that in mind.
If he's considering a run then he would almost certainly want to vote for Kavanaugh as the GOP has moved into a tribal/pro-Trump area where voting against Trump would be disqualifying.
Don't mind my ignorance. Is this phenomenon new for the Dems, has it been proven that it helps Dems keep seats? Because if not, voting for a serious conservative to the court for the next 30 years just to keep a seat, seems like a serious risk.
This is more about being a team player.But won't he be running against trump?
Can hardly go and agree with everything.
But won't he be running against trump?
Can hardly go and agree with everything.
If he's considering a run then he would almost certainly want to vote for Kavanaugh as the GOP has moved into a tribal/pro-Trump area where voting against Trump would be disqualifying.
Because the Senate is heavily tilted towards red states. There aren’t really any ‘blue state’ R aside from Collins and she is in that position because of a wacky, heavily red CD there and street cred built up over the years.
You can't out Trump Trump, can you? Kumquat would definitely run for reelection, won't it be better to take a traditional conservative position to beat him? That's got to be your only chance. You ain't going to out crazy him. A republican candidates only hope is to catch the traditional conservatives/republicans and people who by then are tired of Trump and his charade. In addition to keeping their fingers crossed that the Muller report at least leaves enough doubt.
But you can't have the president decided by the popular vote because the poor widdle states would have no voice!
Because the Senate is heavily tilted towards red states. There aren’t really any ‘blue state’ R aside from Collins and she is in that position because of a wacky, heavily red CD there and street cred built up over the years.
I think Raoul's main point is that such traditional conservatives/republicans are not in the majority in the party anymore, hence you need to hold extreme positions to win a primary. The politics have really swung right over the last 20 years in the GOP.