Unpopular Opinions Thread

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This thread has become less about unpopular opinions and more about people wanting to say what's on their minds without being criticised.
 
I've got a few I want to get out there
  • There was nothing wrong with Fergie's transfer policy in his last years - the team was good enough to win the league comfortably and would've beaten Madrid if not for the referee being a cnut. I'm sure Fergie was aware of the gaps in the team and the need to bring in new players, as I'm sure he would've done if he didn't retire. The blame is on Moyes for fecking up the transfer window. He spent the whole time trying to sign Baines, Fellaini and Fabregas and Bale instead of going for better and obtainable targets. The reason we spent so much last season was catching up on Moyes' failure to address the gaps at the end of 12/13.
  • People will realise how crap Valencia is now that we've signed Darmian. I expect LvG to inexplicably rotate both of them, until something forces him to stop experimenting. I reckon our defence will be must more secure now we've got a proper RB. Valencia is fast and strong but his ball watching and lack of awareness causes a lot of panic at the back. That and he has no confidence or urgency going forward. It was good to see Darmian actually put a cross into a dangerous area yesterday.
  • Mata has been a disappointment for us. Tidy player and very clinical but his lack of athleticism and killer instinct passing wise really does hold us back.
  • Rojo is a poor signing. If you add in the Nani loan and wages, he cost us somewhere upwards of £20m. He's rash and not particularly good at anything and very expensive for a player we only got because he's left footed and missed our on Vermalaen. Gets a free ride though because it's more fashionable to criticise Smalling/Evans/Jones who aren't at the level expected of them. I hope we don't sell Evans to keep him.
  • We shouldn't have sold Welbeck. His goal record for us was never as bad as suggested. When he started up front he normally scored 1 in 2 starts roughly and was a very useful player for his movement and energy (e.g. vs Real Madrid and Bayern he scared the hell out of them). Would still be here under Fergie IMO.

Not really. Fergie won the last title mainly because of a free scoring rvp. We were defensively all over the place till about jan. we kept maybe 3 or 4 clean sheets and had conceded first in almost every game

I don't think anyone is claiming Valencia is Paolo Maldini or lahm. People tend to critiscize him for nothing really. He played well. 90% of the fullbacks in the world get caught out at least once a game

Rojo is a good defender. He has good positional sense and isn't scared of going into a tackle. He isn't rash anymore than Jones or Pepe.

Welbeck scared bayern. I also remember him missing a couple of chances when 1v1 with neuer. That sums him up really. He is a talented forward with everything good except scoring. Do you see how from first choice CF at arsenal he went to first choice winger and now a back up winger?
 
Not really. Fergie won the last title mainly because of a free scoring rvp. We were defensively all over the place till about jan. we kept maybe 3 or 4 clean sheets and had conceded first in almost every game

That gets one big "so?" from me. We won 16 out of 20 games until January. Don't give a hoot who scored first or how many clean sheets were there.
 
Not sure if this is unpopular, but Gary Neville would make a better manager than Ryan Giggs.
 
Not really. Fergie won the last title mainly because of a free scoring rvp. We were defensively all over the place till about jan. we kept maybe 3 or 4 clean sheets and had conceded first in almost every game

One could be forgiven for thinking RVP was dribbling past defenders and scoring Messi-esque goals every single game. And of course, it's not like it was Fergie himself who signed RVP....
 
That gets one big "so?" from me. We won 16 out of 20 games until January. Don't give a hoot who scored first or how many clean sheets were there.

One could be forgiven for thinking RVP was dribbling past defenders and scoring Messi-esque goals every single game. And of course, it's not like it was Fergie himself who signed RVP....

That was in reply to a post saying fergie would have bought class players that we needed. Fergie could win the title with average players. He wouldn't have felt the need to build the team like moyes or lvg felt
 
That was in reply to a post saying fergie would have bought class players that we needed. Fergie could win the title with average players. He wouldn't have felt the need to build the team like moyes or lvg felt

What's wrong with that?

Fergie won the title on the back of some excellent players not average one's unless the likes of RVP, Rooney, Carrick, Vidic, Evra, Rio and co. count as average players now.
 
United would have still gone out against Real Madrid in the last 16 even if Nani had remained on the pitch.

I don't think so. IIRC we had them unde control. The subsequent 10 minutes after the red we were all over the place and Madrid took full advantage.

Of course no one will ever know for sure but I'm quite confident we would have progressed had Nani stayed on the pitch.
 
Rojo is underrated. Last season he was fine at centre back. His average match day rating was 6, slightly less than Smalling, slightly higher than Jones. Considering the following...

a) long WC.
b) new to the league.
c) no pre-season with us.
d) a number of games at LB where he put in some of his worst performances.
e) played games in an ill-conceived 3-5-2 system and with little protection from the midfield, like all the defenders.

... I think he did well. The injuries are a concern, and it's obviously not good that he missing pre-season again, but he doesn't deserve half the criticism he gets.
 
I think we should've sacked fergie and sold giggs while we still had the chance.
 
Some of you may know mine but anyway, here it goes:

  • Moyes is not a bad manager at all. I think he could have won us trophies if given type. That post Fergie year would have been really difficult for everyone. We had an aging squad and a lack of quality in general. That said, you cannot blame the United board for firing Moyesy. At the end of the day, a league position such as that is not acceptable but personally I would've given him more time. Though I'm happy now, because Van Gaal is a better manager I believe.
  • Mata is a better player than ADM
  • Carrick is a really good midfielder for us bot on these boards he's often overrated (he was at one time underrated on here)


Hope I've offended no one. Don't judge me because of these opinions. At the end of the day, I'm probably wrong since majority think otherwise but I can't help feeling all of this!

P.S: I think Ronaldo is better than Messi but I don't think it's really an unpopular opinion.
This is an unpopular opinion I agree with to some extent.
 
I don't think so. IIRC we had them unde control. The subsequent 10 minutes after the red we were all over the place and Madrid took full advantage.

Of course no one will ever know for sure but I'm quite confident we would have progressed had Nani stayed on the pitch.

After United went 1 up, United sat too deep for my liking and could not retain possession or any sort of control of the game which allowed Madrid to get a grip on the game. Barely 10 minutes into the second half I thought United appear to be hanging on . The clearance from Evra which led to the Nani sending off just illustrated this.
Obviously it is all hypothetical but I feel the momentum of the game had already shifted to Madrid between United scoring first and the Nani sending off.
 
We should have gone for Clyne.

Not sure why? I would have agreed had as went out and spend an extortionate fee on another RB, but we got Darmian for a best reasonable fee. I've yet to see him play but from what I hear, he's a very talented player.
 
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That gets one big "so?" from me. We won 16 out of 20 games until January. Don't give a hoot who scored first or how many clean sheets were there.
After United went 1 up, United sat too deep for my liking and could not retain possession or any sort of control of the game which allowed Madrid to get a grip on the game. Barely 10 minutes into the second half I thought United appear to be hanging on . The clearance from Evra which led to the Nani sending off just illustrated this.
Obviously it is all hypothetical but I feel the momentum of the game had already shifted to Madrid between United scoring first and the Nani sending off.

I Don't recall a shift in momentum at all. If anything its were comfortable and I remember thinking as much. You gave one example of its clearing a ball which could of happened at anytime in any game and used it to say Madrid would still have won. Logic like fails me.
 
After United went 1 up, United sat too deep for my liking and could not retain possession or any sort of control of the game which allowed Madrid to get a grip on the game. Barely 10 minutes into the second half I thought United appear to be hanging on . The clearance from Evra which led to the Nani sending off just illustrated this.
Obviously it is all hypothetical but I feel the momentum of the game had already shifted to Madrid between United scoring first and the Nani sending off.

Hardly true. We were in complete control of the game until the sending off.. Lost our heads for the next 10 minutes and then completely controlled the last 20 minutes with 10 men only to be repeatedly denied by Lopez.

Even thinking about the game pisses me off. Aside from the first 20 minutes in Madrid we were fantastic tactically in both legs. It took multiple fecks ups from the referee and poor finishing to deny us.
 
Not sure why? I would have agreed had as went out and spend an extortionate fee on another RB, but we got Darmian for a best reasonable fee. I've yet to see him play but from what I hear, he's a very talented player.

Guess it's not the right thread for a serious discussion, but since you ask...

- Premier League proven. Yeah, I'm one of the weirdos who still believe in this.

- Pretty cheap too. 13m £ or something? Around the same as Darmian if I recall correctly.

- Two years younger than Darmian.

- Would probably never want to join another club.

- English. Helps the quota, but would also give continuity to the back four, with Jones, Smalling and Shaw being regular starters for England as well.

But yeah, Darmian could very well turn out to be the better signing. I assume there's a reason we let Liverpool have Clyne.
 
United would have still gone out against Real Madrid in the last 16 even if Nani had remained on the pitch.
Nonsense.

Once Nani was given the red card, Arbiola i think (the right back) was withdrawn and a midfielder was brought on (Modric I think). And Modric went on to score the goal which put us on the backfoot. The Madrid midfield overran us and we were done.
 
@pierrethesnack That's fair enough. Judging from people that have seen Darmian play, I reckon he definitely seems like he's the better player. I'm not a huge fan of Clyne but would have taken him at that price. I don't really believe in the PL experience stuff; it's how players like Charlie Austin get touted around at £17m after one season playing in the competition.

I see where you're coming from, though and each to their own. As I've said, I've never seen Darmian play but I'm hoping he's going to prove a better signing than Clyne.
 
Rojo is underrated. Last season he was fine at centre back. His average match day rating was 6, slightly less than Smalling, slightly higher than Jones. Considering the following...

a) long WC.
b) new to the league.
c) no pre-season with us.
d) a number of games at LB where he put in some of his worst performances.
e) played games in an ill-conceived 3-5-2 system and with little protection from the midfield, like all the defenders.

... I think he did well. The injuries are a concern, and it's obviously not good that he missing pre-season again, but he doesn't deserve half the criticism he gets.

This. Shocked at the amount of grief he gets.
 
Don't know if it's unpopular but Jones \ Smalling isn't a league winning partnership, In fact I'll go further and say Jones isn't good enough for a top team.
 
Most people wanting Otamendi have never/seldom watched him play.
 
@pierrethesnack That's fair enough. Judging from people that have seen Darmian play, I reckon he definitely seems like he's the better player. I'm not a huge fan of Clyne but would have taken him at that price. I don't really believe in the PL experience stuff; it's how players like Charlie Austin get touted around at £17m after one season playing in the competition.

I see where you're coming from, though and each to their own. As I've said, I've never seen Darmian play but I'm hoping he's going to prove a better signing than Clyne.

I assume it goes without saying that I hope to be proven utterly and completely wrong on all accounts.
 
Ashley Young could do an occasional job for us as a lone striker. He is quick, has sensible positional sense, obviously knows where the goal is.
 
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