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Memphis will be mould into a striker by LVG.We will play 4-4-1-1 more regular than people think.

Mata will have a hard time this season.
 
Agree with all of this, barring I'd prefer Rojo over Evans. Mata for me is a bench player and nothing more. He's too slow for my liking.
An unpopular opinion that I 100% agree with.
 
I've got a few I want to get out there
  • There was nothing wrong with Fergie's transfer policy in his last years - the team was good enough to win the league comfortably and would've beaten Madrid if not for the referee being a cnut. I'm sure Fergie was aware of the gaps in the team and the need to bring in new players, as I'm sure he would've done if he didn't retire. The blame is on Moyes for fecking up the transfer window. He spent the whole time trying to sign Baines, Fellaini and Fabregas and Bale instead of going for better and obtainable targets. The reason we spent so much last season was catching up on Moyes' failure to address the gaps at the end of 12/13.
  • People will realise how crap Valencia is now that we've signed Darmian. I expect LvG to inexplicably rotate both of them, until something forces him to stop experimenting. I reckon our defence will be must more secure now we've got a proper RB. Valencia is fast and strong but his ball watching and lack of awareness causes a lot of panic at the back. That and he has no confidence or urgency going forward. It was good to see Darmian actually put a cross into a dangerous area yesterday.
  • Mata has been a disappointment for us. Tidy player and very clinical but his lack of athleticism and killer instinct passing wise really does hold us back.
  • Rojo is a poor signing. If you add in the Nani loan and wages, he cost us somewhere upwards of £20m. He's rash and not particularly good at anything and very expensive for a player we only got because he's left footed and missed our on Vermalaen. Gets a free ride though because it's more fashionable to criticise Smalling/Evans/Jones who aren't at the level expected of them. I hope we don't sell Evans to keep him.
  • We shouldn't have sold Welbeck. His goal record for us was never as bad as suggested. When he started up front he normally scored 1 in 2 starts roughly and was a very useful player for his movement and energy (e.g. vs Real Madrid and Bayern he scared the hell out of them). Would still be here under Fergie IMO.

Agree with almost everything.

The only point I would contend is that Fergie's transfer policy could have been better. The squad did win the title at a canter but a lot of the players were on their last legs and only Fergie could have squeezed out what he did from them. However, I agree that if we had planned the transfer windows better after his retirement, we would be in a much better position today. The last two windows have failed to address a lot of flaws in the team despite the massive spend.
 
Shocked at how overrated Memphis seems to be on this forum already. He is being built up to fail judging by the already massive standards that have been set.
 
Cillessen is goog enough to be our No.1. If we go for him (if/when De Gea leaves), I'll be happy.
 
People that think our current team selections are just because of pre-season and that the likes of Smalling and Herrera will start the competitive games are being way to optimistic. Our best centre back and more important midfielder for sure but Van Gaal doesn't seem to care about that. He is very honest when he speaks and was clear when he said the team he picks against Barcelona is the one he thinks could play against Tottenham. Apart from bringing De Gea in for Johnstone he has picked the same starting XI in every pre-season game so far. Last season was similar, he made-up his mind to play 5-3-2 and then played it for every minute of pre-season and apart from injuries the teams he picked for our final games against Liverpool and Valencia was more or less identical to the one that started against Swansea.

I hope I am wrong but it would be clutching at straws at this point to expect anything different.
 
People that think our current team selections are just because of pre-season and that the likes of Smalling and Herrera will start the competitive games are being way to optimistic. Our best centre back and more important midfielder for sure but Van Gaal doesn't seem to care about that. He is very honest when he speaks and was clear when he said the team he picks against Barcelona is the one he thinks could play against Tottenham. Apart from bringing De Gea in for Johnstone he has picked the same starting XI in every pre-season game so far. Last season was similar, he made-up his mind to play 5-3-2 and then played it for every minute of pre-season and apart from injuries the teams he picked for our final games against Liverpool and Valencia was more or less identical to the one that started against Swansea.
He said after that the same time wont be the one who will play vs Spurs.
 
He said after that the same time wont be the one who will play vs Spurs.

Link? I would love to be wrong but I've not seen those comments anywhere.

Also you need to do some work mate! That's the third time this morning I have made a post and then a minute later gotten an alert saying you have quoted me :)
 
When we do pre season tours i'd rather we played the local teams to that area instead of the likes of Champions League teams. Also rather we changed from USA, Asia and South Africa now and then
 
I've got a few I want to get out there
  • There was nothing wrong with Fergie's transfer policy in his last years - the team was good enough to win the league comfortably and would've beaten Madrid if not for the referee being a cnut. I'm sure Fergie was aware of the gaps in the team and the need to bring in new players, as I'm sure he would've done if he didn't retire. The blame is on Moyes for fecking up the transfer window. He spent the whole time trying to sign Baines, Fellaini and Fabregas and Bale instead of going for better and obtainable targets. The reason we spent so much last season was catching up on Moyes' failure to address the gaps at the end of 12/13
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  • We shouldn't have sold Welbeck. His goal record for us was never as bad as suggested. When he started up front he normally scored 1 in 2 starts roughly and was a very useful player for his movement and energy (e.g. vs Real Madrid and Bayern he scared the hell out of them). Would still be here under Fergie IMO.
Absolutely spot on.
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Robin-van-Persie-sign-Cristiano-Ronaldo.html

Also says he could extend his contract but thats hardly news he said he could leave at the end of his contract or extend his stay if he was successful last season.

Whats wrong with planning for the short term and whats sad about it?

Thats what he has been hired to do, get us competing for league titles again in a short period.

His intention is to go down in history to be a successful manager in Holland, in Spain, in Germany and eventually in England. He doesn't think he owes us a duty to see us thrive in the future after him. That's the sad part!
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Robin-van-Persie-sign-Cristiano-Ronaldo.html

Also says he could extend his contract but thats hardly news he said he could leave at the end of his contract or extend his stay if he was successful last season.

Whats wrong with planning for the short term and whats sad about it?

Thats what he has been hired to do, get us competing for league titles again in a short period.
Any manager coming to work in United is hired to do a job to win title or to be up there challenging. Last season was a bare minimal which can be achieved by any decent manager and especially with his track record.

What's wrong with my comment about its sad when a manager is not to be here for the long haul seeing success in the long run??? His stay with United is short term.
 
Most people have taken pre-season far too seriously. None of the line ups in the games suggest this is what we will line up as at the start of the season, none of the line ups also suggest who is and isn't first choice.
 
Selling Welbeck was and still remains a big error on our part. He suits the system we try to play, has a solid relationship with Rooney, scored goals at a reasonable rate when played up top and would have been the perfect #2 striker for us for the season ahead. Versatile, fast, good movement. He'd still offer some of the things we lack throughout the squad.

I'd give Arsenal their £16 million back tomorrow.

Some will actually agree with this, so not sure how "unpopular" it will be.
 
I'm really nervous about the CL qualifying round.

That sentiment belongs in the soon to be created "VERY popular opinions" thread

"I think United will cakewalk the CL qualifying round, I fact I think LVG should play the bench players in the 2nd Leg much the same way he makes 11 subs at half time in these pre-season friendlies" ... would be a better example of an unpopular opinion!
 
Most people have taken pre-season far too seriously. None of the line ups in the games suggest this is what we will line up as at the start of the season, none of the line ups also suggest who is and isn't first choice.

What is this based on?

1. Van Gaal's team selections in the latter pre-season games last year were almost identical to the team he started against Swansea. That makes sense, pre-season is not 'just about fitness' as people claim on here, it's about making sure you have your team ready to start the season as strongly as possible.
2. Van Gaal has come right out and said that the team he picked against Barcelona is the one he thinks could play against Tottenham. And apart from bringing De Gea in after injury he has picked the same team for every game.
 
That sentiment belongs in the soon to be created "VERY popular opinions" thread

"I think United will cakewalk the CL qualifying round, I fact I think LVG should play the bench players in the 2nd Leg much the same way he makes 11 subs at half time in these pre-season friendlies" ... would be a better example of an unpopular opinion!

Upon deep reflection, you're probably right. I actually think we'll win the CL this year with Hernandez the match-winning super sub, ala Solskjaer.
 
Any manager coming to work in United is hired to do a job to win title or to be up there challenging. Last season was a bare minimal which can be achieved by any decent manager and especially with his track record.

Well i don't know about that his target was to qualify for the CL after we finished 7th, he achieved that so not really the bare minimum.

What's wrong with my comment about its sad when a manager is not to be here for the long haul seeing success in the long run??? His stay with United is short term.

Well it depends what you are actually sad about, are you sad LVG will be leaving in a few years because you would have liked him to stay longer or that United hired a manager knowing he would only be here for a few years.

Because it if is the latter you'd best get used to it, because from here on out i doubt we will ever have a manager for longer than 2-3 years and 4-5 at the most. The type of coaches we will be looking at after LVG like Van Gaal himself never stay in one place too long.
 
Most people have taken pre-season far too seriously. None of the line ups in the games suggest this is what we will line up as at the start of the season, none of the line ups also suggest who is and isn't first choice.

Van Gaal has said the team that played against Barca will pretty much be the team that starts v Spurs. So the pre-season line ups did tell us a lot, unless you think he's lying.
 
Well i don't know about that his target was to qualify for the CL after we finished 7th, he achieved that so not really the bare minimum.

Well I can understand people like yourself were celebrating such an amazing achievement getting 4th spot. You're entitled to be over the moon. I have every right not feeling that way is all
 
Well I can understand people like yourself were celebrating such an amazing achievement getting 4th spot. You're entitled to be over the moon. I have every right not feeling that way is all

Yeah i was celebrating :rolleyes:, we were never going to go from 7th to champions in a year that's just unrealistic.

But anyway none of that answers my question, why is it sad that LVG will only be here for a few years?
 
The system Van Gaal has us playing is going to lead to us having an unsuccessful campaign. If he changes it, and keep DDG we might win the league.
 
Chicharito will be good. Basically will be playing for his career.

Hate to say again but Welbeck is really missed. We played better when he was on the pitch and this was without a midfield.

Even with a midfield the caf is as negative as ever and likely won't change unless we win the CL.

Rooney is a superior player to Terry and Gerrard and less of a cnut but still disliked by so many fans. Unreal.

Rooney Bale and Gerrard have been labeled as poor technical players on here. Absolute bullshit. They aren't great in tight spaces but to call them poor technically is way off the mark considering they can execute the hardest things to do in football - shoot, pass, score and assist.

I have more. Stay tuned.
 
Mata isn't good enough to start.

Is that unpopular? I don't actually know the general opinion on Mata. My view is that he plays within himself for us.
 
We won't win another PL title while Rooney and Mata remain starters in our front 4.

LvG will convert Wilson into a wide forward.

Smalling is good but not the all conquering CB many of the Caf have built him up to be.

Luke Shaw will rack up good assist stats.

LvG was 100% right to sell Welbeck and Wenger will do the same in 18 months or so.
 
Yeah i was celebrating :rolleyes:, we were never going to go from 7th to champions in a year that's just unrealistic.
Well the reality was we were going from being the Champions of England to a sad 7th spot after Sir Alex retired. Anything can happen in the footballing world. So I am not so sure about your reality.

I don't know if you are just forgetful or refused to knowledge it, but at the start of the 2014/15 campaign, LvG when asked if top 4 was his goal, he said along the line that, "top 4 is not a challenge, title is the challenge". So what was wrong for me to say top 4 was the basic, not exactly an achievement??? He said it himself>> "top 4 is not a challenge".

But anyway none of that answers my question, why is it sad that LVG will only be here for a few years?

Read my original post!

His intention is to go down in history to be a successful manager in Holland, in Spain, in Germany and eventually in England. He doesn't think he owes us a duty to see us thrive in the future after him. That's the sad part!
 
It actually hurts my eyes watching LVG's brand of football. We were truly horrible to watch last season. And I dont see that changing this season
I guess it depends on the type of football you enjoy watching. I'm a fan of a more possession based game, but not possession for the sake of it. I think United's possession will have more purpose to it next season. Counter attacking football isn't something I find attractive. The counter attack itself might be exciting, but watching a team sit back soaking up pressure isn't for me. I also belive Klopp hasn't received enough scrutiny for Dortmund's downfall over last 12-18 months or so.
 
Some of you may know mine but anyway, here it goes:

  • Moyes is not a bad manager at all. I think he could have won us trophies if given type. That post Fergie year would have been really difficult for everyone. We had an aging squad and a lack of quality in general. That said, you cannot blame the United board for firing Moyesy. At the end of the day, a league position such as that is not acceptable but personally I would've given him more time. Though I'm happy now, because Van Gaal is a better manager I believe.
  • Mata is a better player than ADM
  • Carrick is a really good midfielder for us bot on these boards he's often overrated (he was at one time underrated on here)


Hope I've offended no one. Don't judge me because of these opinions. At the end of the day, I'm probably wrong since majority think otherwise but I can't help feeling all of this!

P.S: I think Ronaldo is better than Messi but I don't think it's really an unpopular opinion.
 
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