Its extremely difficult for us to catch Chelsea with the current squad, we'll be fighting for 2nd,3rd & 4th.
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This is the unpopular thread, not the unrealistic one
Wayne Rooney's touch and overall play is not that bad.
Falcao would have thrived as a striker with service in a 4-3-3. His movement, so much better than Rooney's, would have given defences nightmares for us. It would have opened space up for Memphis and others to work in and he'd have scored lots of goals from all positions - tap ins, solo efforts, headers etc.
Oh and he can take penalties and FK's.
Before people attack this - Sheringham scored 2 league goals in 98/99. Cole got 6 in 96/97. Tevez got 5 in 08/09. We've had big name strikers that haven't scored much in a season before.
Given RVP was going, we should have renewed the loan. No doubt about it.
Oh and he can take penalties and FK's.
Before people attack this - Sheringham scored 2 league goals in 98/99. Cole got 6 in 96/97. Tevez got 5 in 08/09. We've had big name strikers that haven't scored much in a season before.
Given RVP was going, we should have renewed the loan. No doubt about it.
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You're talking about Falcao of old. His movement isnt as good as before or wasnt last year and he kept falling to the ground too.
No highly skilled player can do well in our team once our play is centred around Rooney. They lose confidence and appear as if they are crap.
Lets see how RVP, Nani, Falcao and ?DiMaria perform for their new teams. If they regain form then I may be right.
Btw I do not consider Mata to be highly skilled in fact he plays a lot like Rooney.
Lets see how RVP, Nani, Falcao and ?DiMaria perform for their new teams. If they regain form then I may be right.
Btw I do not consider Mata to be highly skilled in fact he plays a lot like Rooney.
Rooney is a scapegoat.
It doesn't matter how good his movement was when his ball control had disappeared, he was muscled off the ball every time it bounced off his shins and when presented with a clear shot at goal he messed it up.
He was given a fair shot at it and he couldn't deliver. Even if he scores 40 goals for Chelsea this year it was the right decision to get rid.
I sort of agree, and sort of don't. I don't see why the real Falcao couldn't have worked with Rooney, considering Tevez and Hernandez did, and I see Falcao as a mixture of the two. An instinctive player more than a calculated one - which is what Rooney works best with.
Nani's inconsistent anyway, so Rooney has little to do with it.
van Persie doesn't play well with a partner. He plays completely like a lone striker.
Di Maria's just a weird player. I'm none the wiser about what makes him tick, after a year of watching him.
But I do agree that Rooney works better with less-calculated, more energetic forwards, who perhaps aren't perfect technically.
I also agree with you that Mata plays a similar game to Rooney. I've thought that for a while. They're more similar than people think. Mata could do with Rooney's doggedness and physicality, and Rooney could do with Mata's clean technique, but they read the game in a similar way.
Arsene Wenger is the most overrated manager of the PL era.
Rooney gets the blame for everything.
Maybe this is not unpopular opinion.
Maybe this is not unpopular opinion.
Carlo Ancelotti is not an elite manager, best suited to clubs without an idealistic playing philosophy who are also after quick success.
Maldini played for almost a decade this century. Cannavaro was certainly better than Carvalho. As was Thuram.
I agree that he is in top 10 though.
Not Rooney's biggest fan but I'd agree with that too. Since SAF left he has done very little wrong and has been a good captain, I think.
Personally I don't think we are as far behind them as the final table last season suggested. By the time we played them, if we beat them it would have been 5 points difference and I think the table would have been different with that momentum.
I think we're already much stronger than last season and I expect us to walk past some of the lesser teams that caused us trouble last season whereas Chelsea haven't strengthened at all.
Some criticism I get and agree with but these days he's basically guilty of everything wrong in the club and on the pitch.
Rooney is at his best with balls in the box from crosses. Strikers like RVP and Falcao prefer the ball at their feet. Wingers like Nani and DiMaria prefer link up play and dribbling rather than just crosses. Its not Rooney's fault, he just prefers a certain style of football and if it is catered to then the 'high-skill' players will not be as effective or comfortable.
This is the unpopular thread, not the unrealistic one
It's not that unrealistic, at least the Costa part. Costa had his second best ever goalscoring year last season with 21 goals in all competitions which is really not that impressive. If Rooney has a good season playing up top then I'm sure most would expect him to beat that. Aguero may be a little more difficult to beat having averaged about 27 goals a year since he arrived in England but again, if Rooney has a good season it's not beyond him. He has hit 34 in each of the past two seasons in which he has been the focal point of our attack while in Aguero's best ever season he only hit 32.
Not sure about that. The good version of Falcao was just as good, if not better, at scoring goals from crosses. The crosses didn't even need to be particularly accurate, and he'd just fling himself at it and score.
The good version of Falcao would probably have linked up well with Rooney. He was energetic, quick, and released the ball quickly - which is all that Rooney loves in a partner.
The problem was that the Falcao we signed/played wasn't the good Falcao, and Rooney didn't play upfront enough.
I don't think style has anything to do with Rooney and Di Maria. Di Maria hardly blossomed with van Persie. I don't think Di Maria has a particular type of forward that he especially gels with. He's just either good or not good, and it has little to do with Rooney or whoever the striker is.
I get your general point about Rooney, though. I just don't think it applies to all of the players mentioned.
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We would have won the league in the 2012/13 season without RVP.
We don't need to sign a world class player to perfectly execute LVGs system,it would actually derail it, it's also kind of good that there aren't any available.
I've thought this a few times, but then I do think a truly world class attacker like Hazard would be important in breaking down sides that park the bus. Not sure who we could get, though.
Depay in a few years, or Bale if he isn't world class next season, i don't see a lot of Hazards in the transfer market and I'm sick of buying the wrong type of players, the system comes first.
I was really impressed by Juventus' performances last season.
Even if RVP had gone to City?
Not if he had gone to City instead. If he had remained at Arsenal (or went somewhere outside of EPL), I think that we would have won the title even without him.
Haha, now that's a different story - but i was under the impression Fergie was the primary reason he left Arsenal.
Prime Hart
Prime Kompany
Prime Yaya
Prime Silva
Prime Aguero
Prime RVP
Nah feck that,they would have won the treble.
There's no doubt about it. lol After all the spending and selling, we are supposed to be better not worse.This place would implode.
Having said that I don't have much confidence we will be 2nd and challenging title. We don't have that extra edge to achieve things at the moment. And this is not because we don't have enough quality players
Bring back Evra! I will be the first to celebrate if he's back. But it will only happen in my dreams
Red Hand Devil is the worst poster on this forum.
Me, Mali_Zeus, & some others might run him close, but he sure takes the cake.
Me, Mali_Zeus, & some others might run him close, but he sure takes the cake.
This is important to me, we need to be a systemic team. When you have a strong system and a clear philosophy the transfers become easier and the transitions between coaches and rosters are also easier.
Evra as Shaw's backup/mentor would have been the perfect scenario both on and off the field.
You've said it perfectly. These are very important elements and it makes all the difference for a high level team to achieve great things.
We will finish 4th again this season
Chelsea, arsenal and city have far superior squads and are still far stronger.
Chelsea, arsenal and city have far superior squads and are still far stronger.
Yeah, they're not far better than us. Atm I'd say we could likely finish third, which would probably mean we put together at least a half-hearted title challenge.
The season hasn't started yet, but yes I am inclined to agree, albeit because of the style we choose to play with and not the lack of quality.
lol behind who
Rafael is criminally underrated on here. Now that he's on the way out some people are rewriting history to try and make it out that he's a liability when he never was. He's still our best right back.
Ryan Giggs would be a terrible manager and giving him the job would be as big a mistake as giving it to Moyes was, if not worse.
Ryan Giggs would be a terrible manager and giving him the job would be as big a mistake as giving it to Moyes was, if not worse.
Getting Ramos would be great. But I think Smalling and Jones have the tools necessary to mount a title challenge. We are fine defensively if we dont sign another CB.
I really liked Rafael, and felt he was quite hard done on several occasions by the refs. Which also led to some troubled times for United. Don't think he was a liability at all.
Disagree about Giggs. Have faith in the man, he'll do great.
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