Pre-seaon is such a huge waste of time (other than the money it generates).
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When he was given the number 11 shirt I was sceptical because I didn't see him ready yet to wear the big shirt. Anyhow in the past two seasons it seems he's going backward (it looks like it has something to do with his attitude towards playing football).
He had not shown much his wonder skills he had exhibited under Fergie when younger and has become less passionate on the pitch. Well it maybe an unfair comment because he's not given much opportunity to showcase himself. It's disappointing because he did have potential to make it big with us. Wish we knew the real problem.
I really hope you're right.
He didn't play a single game under SAF. Unless you're comparing his performances in the youth teams with first team football just shouldn't be done
I agree! Some people on here would point finger at those who are asking a few questions and making observation and then label them anti LvG. Granted every United fan should stand behind the manager thick and thin but as cliche goes: no one is bigger than the club (unless you are Fergie of course
) The way the manager is going, is to work hard to keep his job. We all want him to be successful for the sake of our club of course but to him it's a personal challenge and goal.
His intention is to go down in history to be a successful manager in Holland, in Spain, in Germany and eventually in England. He doesn't think he owes us a duty to see us thrive in the future after him. That's the sad part!
I agree! Some people on here would point finger at those who are asking a few questions and making observation and then label them anti LvG. Granted every United fan should stand behind the manager thick and thin but as cliche goes: no one is bigger than the club (unless you are Fergie of course
The way the manager is going, is to work hard to keep his job. We all want him to be successful for the sake of our club of course but to him it's a personal challenge and goal.
His intention is to go down in history to be a successful manager in Holland, in Spain, in Germany and eventually in England. He doesn't think he owes us a duty to see us thrive in the future after him. That's the sad part!
Pretty much this.
You mean off-country ones? With lots of travelling?
4-5 games at Old Trafford before season start would be nice.
You mean off-country ones? With lots of travelling?
4-5 games at Old Trafford before season start would be nice.
Yes,absolutely.
Yeah he's won the Reserve Player of the Year award. Hasn't he played in the first team towards the end of season 12/13? He just looked very promising I remember.
Indeed. Players should go directly from snorkeling in Ibiza to the first Prem game.
I hope all this talk about Giggs taking over is just fan-fiction, i mean the man isn't even fit to be our #2.
This is completely wrong. By all accounts, this is exactly what he does try to do, even if it costs him in the short term.I agree! Some people on here would point finger at those who are asking a few questions and making observation and then label them anti LvG. Granted every United fan should stand behind the manager thick and thin but as cliche goes: no one is bigger than the club (unless you are Fergie of course
The way the manager is going, is to work hard to keep his job. We all want him to be successful for the sake of our club of course but to him it's a personal challenge and goal.
His intention is to go down in history to be a successful manager in Holland, in Spain, in Germany and eventually in England. He doesn't think he owes us a duty to see us thrive in the future after him. That's the sad part!
That is not what i meant and you know it.
I'm guessing some may have presumed such a scenario since you didn't list an alternative to a summer tour.
What's the alternative?
I'd think so.
You mean off-country ones? With lots of travelling?
4-5 games at Old Trafford before season start would be nice.
This whole going to America,Asia,Australia and other parts of Europe thing doesn't actually make teams better.
Teams coming to Old Trafford instead of us travelling to them would be an ok idea.
No, but it gives our international supporters a chance to see the Club they support.
Depends how you define better. It helps re-acclimate the players to one another after the summer and promote the club's brand.
And also generates more income for the club, which is excellent.
But football wise, it is a huge waste of time.
Many players last year, were given a chance to prove themselves.
Anderson (yes that guy, who played in the MK Dons game, which we lost)
Fellaini (who eventually proved himself)
Di Maria (who was given multiple chances, but because Young was better, Di Maria became a super-sub. ADM even got a chance to play as striker)
Falcao (the player who got the most chances to play, despite not scoring goals. 4 goals in 1 season, this guy should've been lynched)
RVP (the player who had only a few touches against in one of his games last year, when people stated that he should not play. RVP still kept getting played and people suggested that LVG was RVP's adopted father).
Rooney (this guy got a chance to play in all attacking positions, as well as in midfield role. Nobody could argue that he didnt get a chance to show his skills in all parts of the pitch).
DDG, Carrick, Blind, Rojo, Smalling, P.Jones, Valencia (whenever this guy was fit, he played)
Herrera (initially, LVG was reluctant to use him, but in 2015, he got a chance to prove himself. He did well. And LVG kept playing him, from then on).
Kagawa (he got a chance to show himself, but he was in the ill-fated MK Dons game, which put an end to his MUFC career).
I could run through the entire team, but you get the drift.
LVG absolutely gave most of our players chances to prove themselves and even went so far as to bench players like RVP, Falcao and Di Maria, when appropriate.
The only players who could have any cause for complaint:
Wilson
Januzaj
Pereira
These are decent players, who may feel that in another decent team, they'd be 1st team starters.
Not a waste of time but passing strong opinions about the performances certainly is a waste of time.
What's the point of staying up to watch your team play if you won't be able to take their performances serious though?
At what level? They have no reason to complain about not being starters, definitely not at United.
Because you love watching your team play, no matter what the circumstances are.
Fair enough.
Selling di Maria without proper creative outlet being bought would be massive mistake.
I'm pretty sure that's a widely held belief, not an unpopular opinion.
Your fascination with Ferguson has no end.
And this is grossly unfair. We've made key signings. We signed a winger. We signed a right back. We've signed two central midfielders (numerically we needed two). We'll sign a centre half, too.
We've been on the lookout for a centre forward since Moyes took charge, so it isn't a product of Van Gaal's arrival.
What has transpired, however, is that our record purchase last summer apparently doesn't want to be here, and our goalkeeper certainly doesn't either. Naturally, they need replacing.
In an ideal world we'd only have to bring in two more, (centre half and attacker) and in spite of the large-ish numbers all of them are absolutely necessary.
If Di Maria goes i'd rather we kept who we already have to replace him
That 5 game run has massively clouded people's judgement on the how Van Gaal did overall last year. He did the bare minimum, spent bucket loads and scraped 4th whilst playing shite football for the overwhelming majority of the season. Specific frustrations were dropping Herrera for 3 months and playing Rooney in midfield instead and the 532 which wasted us a good amount of our time and points.
I'd understand slightly if we actually ended the season in this blistering form but that team that worked so well for 5 games seemed to get 'found out' pretty convincingly in the end. I know we lost Carrick to injury but the front 4 of Young/Fellaini/Mata/Rooney were absolutely tumescent for the last 6 games where we collected 5/18 points.
I'd understand slightly if we actually ended the season in this blistering form but that team that worked so well for 5 games seemed to get 'found out' pretty convincingly in the end. I know we lost Carrick to injury but the front 4 of Young/Fellaini/Mata/Rooney were absolutely tumescent for the last 6 games where we collected 5/18 points.
I dunno, I'm not sure people have really been too over the top about LVG overall. Some maybe, but I'd say that the majority are probably of the opinion that it was a fairly unspectacular season, but far better than what Moyes offered us, and one in which it was a relief to get back into the top 4. I've seen very few people who have been positive about LVG in an over the top manner, except perhaps at the time of our best football, which always tends to happen with some immediate kneejerk reactions.
It'd be very nice to see Pereira given a serious chance this season. He could certainly do a good job on the left IMO.
As a starter?
Get a feeling a lot of people are stating opinions off the back of the two pre season games.
It's on telly coz it's lucrative. But these are friendly matches that develop fitness and tactics so have a vital and important role. Results are secondary - apart from some fans who appear to take them seriously enough to draw large conclusions. So many variables can affect performance that they're not always useful for the casual observer to make accurate conclusions about. For example, teams often train on the same day as a match - unlikely to happen in a proper game.
Nothing can replace the real thing.
I had wanted initially to ignore your comment because your mind was already made up to attack me without a sincere attempt in addressing my main point.
But then I think I should put the record straight here. Instead of pointing out januzaj only first played under Moyes in first team, you immediately condemned me of Fergie fascination. I know I am making enemies in the like of you lot but I am not going to apologise for that.
But I would apologise for my bad memories and mistake and hence conclusion I made in my post. The issue is still valid from my point of view though that Januzaj had not improved and even had gone backward and I wish to know the reason underlying it.
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