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I don't know who is worse or better or else. I just see fans, some express their feelings, some don't.

And you are judging, you just used a comparative adjective.


I said 'perhaps', implying I do not know. How can I judge if I don't know?

Anyway, it's clear who has a bit of a complex about the term 'glory hunters'.

I'll leave them to it.
 
You have no right to say that to me!!!!!


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Someone got proper butt hurt by my unpopular opinion didn't they?!
No one is butt hurt as you put it, it’s just a shame you are unable to back up your opinion that the majority of fans on here are glory hunters. It’s quite a big accusation to make, a stupid one, but a big one nonetheless.
 
I said 'perhaps', implying I do not know. How can I judge if I don't know?

Anyway, it's clear who has a bit of a complex about the term 'glory hunters'.

I'll leave them to it.
I guess you are talking about me. Again, explain to me how you are different from a 'glory hunter'
 
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As we speak I am busy compiling a 500 page dossier full of evidence to back up my opinion, as that is clearly what is required.

Just wait there...
 
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As we speak I am busy compiling a 500 page dossier full of evidence to back up my opinion, as that is clearly what is required.

Just wait there...
You’re trying your best to get out of this by making pathetic posts to try and deflect away from answering what should be a pretty simple question. As I said, it’s a pretty big statement to make, you should easily be able to back it up.
 
Who cares about glory hunters. It's a stupid made up term for people under the age of 13. Everyone likes it when their team does well and calls the manager a twat when they're losing. Crowds get bigger when their team start to win a few games. It's the same for every single team in the world.
 
When I interact with other UTD fans, I get the impression that a large majority of them only began to support us because of the success, and would not show half the interest in the team that they have over the last 20 years now that the team is starting to struggle.


So simple yet so difficult for some to get to grips with.
 
When I interact with other UTD fans, I get the impression that a large majority of them only began to support us because of the success, and would not show half the interest in the team that they have over the last 20 years now that the team is starting to struggle.


So simple yet so difficult for some to get to grips with.

But how old are these fans ?
 
Nani's red card against Real Madrid was nowhere near as shocking and horrible a decision as it's made out to be among United fans.

Granted, I was livid at first and felt cheated but after I calmed down - took a few days, mind you -, with every subsequent replay I felt more and more that Nani was simply stupid. It was a somewhat harsh red, yes, but he couldn't complain too much, his foot was ridiculously high and he even made a kicking motion.

Also, we also shouldn't have folded like a pack of cards after going down to ten men. Other sides managed to not collapse completely when losing a man. See Chelsea in 2012.

LVG speaks the worst English I ever heard from a Dutchman.
 
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Nani's red card against Real Madrid was nowhere near as shocking and horrible a decision it was as it's made out to be among United fans.

Granted, I was livid at first and felt cheated but after I calmed down - took a few days, mind you -, with every subsequent replay I felt more and more that Nani was simply stupid. It was a somewhat harsh red, yes, but he couldn't complain too much, his foot was ridiculously high and he even made a kicking motion.

Also, we also shouldn't have folded like a pack of cards after going down to ten men. Other sides managed to not collapse completely when losing a man. See Chelsea in 2012.

LVG speaks the worst English I ever heard from a Dutchman.


Yeah, that little kick out was silly. I even mentioned it to my mates during the game when I thought he was only going to get a yellow.


Still don't think it was a red though.
 
A variety of ages but probably mainly 20-40.

I'm only 28 by the way, was just being silly earlier. Apologies.

You have your answer the Mancunians who are between 20-40, only witnessed success, I suppose that it's complicated to accept anything else. And supporting a team who is not guaranteed to win 50% of the games, can be stressful.
 
When I interact with other UTD fans, I get the impression that a large majority of them only began to support us because of the success, and would not show half the interest in the team that they have over the last 20 years now that the team is starting to struggle.


So simple yet so difficult for some to get to grips with.
It’s not so simple? FFS man admit you fecked up and we can move on. The term glory hunter is nothing but a pathetic attempt to try and make yourself look bigger than the average fan, it’s usually used in the playground by kids in schools.
If anything, this site should have taught you that a fan on the other side of the World who has never set foot in England let alone Old Trafford is as much a fan as a season ticket holder (and I’m saying this as an ex season ticket holder)

If you’ve ever been to a match you will know that the fans support the team for the 90+ minutes they are on the pitch, but as soon as that final whistle is blown then the exact same conversations that happen on here happen in the pubs outside the ground.
 
You have your answer the Mancunians who are between 20-40, only witnessed success, I suppose that it's complicated to accept anything else. And supporting a team who is not guaranteed to win 50% of the games, can be stressful.


A decent justification but still doesn't take away from my main point that a lot of them now are showing far less interest in the team/club/football now the success seems to be drying up. That's what I consider to be a 'glory hunter'.
 
Nani's red card against Real Madrid was nowhere near as shocking and horrible a decision it was as it's made out to be among United fans.

Granted, I was livid at first and felt cheated but after I calmed down - took a few days, mind you -, with every subsequent replay I felt more and more that Nani was simply stupid. It was a somewhat harsh red, yes, but he couldn't complain too much, his foot was ridiculously high and he even made a kicking motion.

Also, we also shouldn't have folded like a pack of cards after going down to ten men. Other sides managed to not collapse completely when losing a man. See Chelsea in 2012.

LVG speaks the worst English I ever heard from a Dutchman.
I hate admitting it, but you're right. We could of won that. Feck me, if we went on to win it ....:(
 
A decent justification but still doesn't take away from my main point that a lot of them now are showing far less interest in the team/club/football now the success seems to be drying up. That's what I consider to be a 'glory hunter'.

Well, there are glory hunters who support United but they don't represent half of our population.

And by the way RAWK is not that bad, they have very good posters, very knowledgeable.
They are just prone to meltdowns, which is fun to watch.
 
Well, there are glory hunters who support United but they don't represent half of our population.

You're entitled to that opinion, there's no way we can really test or prove that so let's just leave it there?
 
Nani's red card against Real Madrid was nowhere near as shocking and horrible a decision it was as it's made out to be among United fans.

Granted, I was livid at first and felt cheated but after I calmed down - took a few days, mind you -, with every subsequent replay I felt more and more that Nani was simply stupid. It was a somewhat harsh red, yes, but he couldn't complain too much, his foot was ridiculously high and he even made a kicking motion.

Also, we also shouldn't have folded like a pack of cards after going down to ten men. Other sides managed to not collapse completely when losing a man. See Chelsea in 2012.

LVG speaks the worst English I ever heard from a Dutchman.
Ive always thought it was to do with his age, his accent and a slight speech impediment.
That Bayern side were too strong.
Anything can happen over 90 minutes, you should know that by now, eeeestanbul la
 
It not like it's a pre-requisite for a Dutch person to speak great English. Anyway, as the location suggests, I believe LvG is the man to turn things around. The teams lacking a solid core which is making us look worse than we are. Two top class CB's and a CM are still needed. When we sort out the core, we'll be good I believe.
 
I know Jones is young and will (hopefully) improve but for me, Evans > Jones everyday of the week.
 
It has been LVG's plan all along to get rid of Rooney. He had to make him captain since there really was no alternative then he states that he does see Rooney as a striker. This condemns Rooney to a midfield role, one that he is obviously not best suited. Rooney disappoints thus allowing LVG to bring in top class midfielders resulting in Rooney having no place in the team. Rooney leaves in disgust and RVP is made captain. Sounds like a conspiracy theory but maybe I watch too many movies.
 
Hang on there fella. United are sending me into a deep sleep. Watching us thesedays feels like a competition on how long one can stay awake. Now, that's nowt to do with our relatively average side but more to do with the way we play. I think most fans would prefer entertaining exciting football over win-at-all-cost crap or lacklustre three points weekly. Glory? Nah.... Just entertain me.

You say this but yet I have a strong feeling you wont hesistate to use the that match against Leicester to beat Van Gaal with.

I think what you really mean is entertaining football that wins, so lets not try to be misleading here. Else we'll be like burnley playing great football (apparently according to many pundits) and facing relegation.
 
I don't know who is worse or better or else. I just see fans, some express their feelings, some don't.

And you are judging, you just used a comparative adjective.

If you think judging people is bad, then are you judging people that judges people? If you despise people that judges, then when come full circle you actually become the person you despised? :confused:

Dont mind me, carry on... :wenger:
 
You say this but yet I have a strong feeling you wont hesistate to use the that match against Leicester to beat Van Gaal with.

I think what you really mean is entertaining football that wins, so lets not try to be misleading here. Else we'll be like burnley playing great football (apparently according to many pundits) and facing relegation.

Burnley's squad cost nowt. Zero pounds. Their entire squad's weekly salary would be closer to Falcao's and VP's combined weekly pay.

The comparisions to Burnley or Blackpool a couple of years back are stupid. An expensively assembled and highly paid squad should be able to do both, entertain and win. If the highest paid squad is the league is in the relegation zone by playing entertaining football then there is something seriously wrong with the squad.
 
It has been LVG's plan all along to get rid of Rooney. He had to make him captain since there really was no alternative then he states that he does see Rooney as a striker. This condemns Rooney to a midfield role, one that he is obviously not best suited. Rooney disappoints thus allowing LVG to bring in top class midfielders resulting in Rooney having no place in the team. Rooney leaves in disgust and RVP is made captain. Sounds like a conspiracy theory but maybe I watch too many movies.

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You say this but yet I have a strong feeling you wont hesistate to use the that match against Leicester to beat Van Gaal with.

Actually I can't think of many - if anyone - who have done this. The ones who have regularly brought up the Leicester fiasco as proof of anything are those who have defended the 3-5-2 (claiming we're so shite defensively it's the only sound option).

I've seen many, on the other hand, claiming Leicester was simply an anomaly, one of them things, etc. Meaning: We could have and should have stuck with a set-up which whilst being more risky would have yielded less dull performances.

What many can't quite buy here is that our dullness is absolutely necessary. Personally I think it should be possible to be there or thereabouts with our squad (lacking though it may be in several areas) while playing somewhat better/more entertaining football. What I keep telling myself, however, is that it's necessary for Van Gaal to do things his way - and that this will eventually pay off in the form of better displays (and even better results). I hope this is the case. Because it won't be possible - at all - to keep claiming that dull football and barely acceptable results are par for the course next season.
 
United haven't played good football for several years now.
 
You say this but yet I have a strong feeling you wont hesistate to use the that match against Leicester to beat Van Gaal with.

I think what you really mean is entertaining football that wins, so lets not try to be misleading here. Else we'll be like burnley playing great football (apparently according to many pundits) and facing relegation.


That game was fantastic. For me it's never been about winning.
 
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