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MTR said:
Rooney is still our best outfield player.
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I agree.

I also don't care about any of his contract stunts and or his "angry and confused" phase, and I feel it is too often used as a stick to beat him with. It's definitely tarnished his reputation here and people tend not to like him at all anymore. I really couldn't give a stuff. He gives his all on the pitch, and so far I think he's been a good captain.

I don't like seeing him in central midfield though.
 
RVP is finished as a top level player

We won't finish top 4 this year

3/4 of our team are midtable standard players.

We will go nowhere under LVG and he is an overrated manager.
 
Not an opinion so much as a worrying suspicion:

Woodward has and will continue to hinder us more than he helps. He doesn't secure targets efficiently and is likely to pursue unnecessary glory signings. The amount of signings we made last year (and the star quality of Di Maria and Falcao) convinced a lot of people that he had done well when in reality we were left with a seriously unbalanced and flawed squad.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I agree.

I also don't care about any of his contract stunts and or his "angry and confused" phase, and I feel it is too often used as a stick to beat him with. It's definitely tarnished his reputation here and people tend not to like him at all anymore. I really couldn't give a stuff. He gives his all on the pitch, and so far I think he's been a good captain.

I don't like seeing him in central midfield though.
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I agree, particularly about his role in central midfield. I've always thought that the point of the diamond would be his best position but now I'm not so sure. He just doesn't seem to have the necessary subtlety to play in his strikers in tight positions. I do think it's necessary to have him on the field somewhere - just not there.
 
1. Moyes should have got another season, and the £150m to spend

2. Rooney was right to put in a transfer request and question our ambition. It should have been (but wasn't) the kick up the arse that the club needed to invest in players

3. Van Gaal might just turn out to be a bit of a dinosaur with out of date ideas
 
Herrera is our best central midfielder.
Blind is better than Carrick in his position and Carrick should be benched.
We paid about £20m too much for Di Maria.
 
Señor said:
Herrera is our best central midfielder.
Blind is better than Carrick in his position and Carrick should be benched.
We paid about £20m too much for Di Maria.
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For me, Carrick should play in the middle of this wretched back three if we are going to persist with it. Blind can play in the middle.
 
dxadel said:
United fans suck up to Ronaldo too much, his transfer was damn near a slap to the face but we act like he is our saviour and have been begging him to come back since he left which is just disgraceful.
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100% agree - though it's obviously not all United fans, but some even sometimes border on RAWK Rafa-embarrassment levels when discussing Ronaldo.
 
dxadel said:
United fans suck up to Ronaldo too much, his transfer was damn near a slap to the face but we act like he is our saviour and have been begging him to come back since he left which is just disgraceful.
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Some United fans, definitely.
 
Needham said:
Brendan Rogers would have made a tremendous Utd manager.
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Given time to grow into the job, I think so too.
He'll do well enough at Liverpool. Unfortunately for him he'll be up against it for the foreseeable future to actually achieve great things there, due to the clubs with more resources.

I think he may do a decent job at Liverpool, but unless they start to really compete financially, he'll make a move to Spain after a few years.
 
Carrick should play centre-back for the rest of the season.

Valencia and Young deserve to be first choice wing-backs / full-backs.

Fellaini has been better than Herrera this season.
 
Fellaini hasn't really been all that this season, and his performances, while decent, have been inflated and made out to be something they aren't by people who want to make up for the complete overreaction last season. He's still nowhere the central midfielder he demonstrated he can be while at Everton and he isn't playing a great deal better in regular Premier League games than he did last season, where he really wasn't bad at all.
 
Bilbo said:
1. Moyes should have got another season, and the £150m to spend

2. Rooney was right to put in a transfer request and question our ambition. It should have been (but wasn't) the kick up the arse that the club needed to invest in players

3. Van Gaal might just turn out to be a bit of a dinosaur with out of date ideas
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Would that have made a difference given he didn't spend the money the previous summer beyond Fellaini at the last minute?

Agree on the second point though, and hope you're wrong on the third point.
 
Kag said:
Fellaini hasn't really been all that this season, and his performances, while decent, have been inflated and made out to be something they aren't by people who want to make up for the complete overreaction last season. He's still nowhere the central midfielder he demonstrated he can be while at Everton and he isn't playing a great deal better in regular Premier League games than he did last season, where he really wasn't bad at all.
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Yep. Agreed.
 
Speak said:
Given time to grow into the job, I think so too.
He'll do well enough at Liverpool. Unfortunately for him he'll be up against it for the foreseeable future to actually achieve great things there, due to the clubs with more resources.

I think he may do a decent job at Liverpool, but unless they start to really compete financially, he'll make a move to Spain after a few years.
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We have a young team. If Sturridge, Origi, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic, Can, Coutinho, Henderson, Sakho, Moreno, Flanagan and Manquillo continue to develop as they should, then we'll be in a very nice position. Perhaps Wisdom or Ilori could do something too. If two or three out of Rossiter, Wilson, Ojo, Branagan, Sinclair, Canos and Chirivella can make it, even better.
 
Antisocial said:
Would that have made a difference given he didn't spend the money the previous summer beyond Fellaini at the last minute?
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Probably not, since Fellaini is best in a more attacking role. So obviously Moyes brought in another one for that position with Mata, paying a club record fee if I'm not mistaken.

KiD MoYeS said:
Fellaini has been better than Herrera this season.
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Can't deny that one. Not like twice as good or something, but it's definitely true imo.
 
Barney said:
We have a young team. If Sturridge, Origi, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic, Can, Coutinho, Henderson, Sakho, Moreno, Flanagan and Manquillo continue to develop as they should, then we'll be in a very nice position. Perhaps Wisdom or Ilori could do something too. If two or three out of Rossiter, Wilson, Ojo, Branagan, Sinclair, Canos and Chirivella can make it, even better.
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You have a lot of potential and young talent, but I still think it's a big ask for Rodgers to seriously achieve at Liverpool as things are.
If he does, fair play to him - it'll be a great achievement. One he nearly managed last season. Though I believe the competition will get stronger.
 
We will not make top (many have said it already)
the knock on will be that we lose de Gae and Di Maria
Ryan Giggs should leave the club if he wants to develop
 
Shouldn't have let Hernandes or Welbeck since LVP values pace on front so much.
 
A guy like Harry Redknapp would have never abandoned the diamond after the Leicester game. "One of them days" the old man would have said and moved on.
 
Yorkeontop said:
A guy like Harry Redknapp would have never abandoned the diamond after the Leicester game. "One of them days" the old man would have said and moved on.
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I liked the diamond and its what I would play right now if I was manager (with some switches in personnel) but it's revisionism to suggest that the Leicester result alone was the reason LVG dropped it.

It wasn't until the West Brom game that we actually switched to a different formation. After Leicester we played the diamond twice more against West Ham and Everton and ended up scraping both games thanks to DDG putting in motm performances. It's harsh on LVG to suggest that he was spooked into changing his mind based on a single game.
 
Kag said:
Fellaini hasn't really been all that this season, and his performances, while decent, have been inflated and made out to be something they aren't by people who want to make up for the complete overreaction last season. He's still nowhere the central midfielder he demonstrated he can be while at Everton and he isn't playing a great deal better in regular Premier League games than he did last season, where he really wasn't bad at all.
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Preach. It's weird how overrated he is getting on here nowadays after being severely underrated last season. You can count how many great/good games he's had this season on one hand. The rest have ranged from ok to bad.
 
manutddjw said:
We made a monumental mistake not getting Mourinho when we had the chance.
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Don't think that's too unpopular, a lot now recognise that someone major like Mourinho would've potentially been superb, especially compared to Moyes.
 
We can never beat Real and Barca at their own game. United's identity was built on a British core and an English style of play. Attempting to become a continental club will play to our weaknesses and lead to a long period in the doldrums.
 
Dante said:
We can never beat Real and Barca at their own game. United's identity was built on a British core and an English style of play. Attempting to become a continental club will play to our weaknesses and lead to a long period in the doldrums.
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I don't really get the whole continental club thing though. Yeah, we may have been built with a British core, but look at some of our cores in recent years. Our best three GK's have been foreign, Vidic and Evra were among our best defenders, we've had guys like RVN and RVP up front, and even now you've got guys like Mata and Di Maria in our team who were probably more accustomed to that continental style of play. Add into that the fact that we now have a foreign manager.

Granted, we've had plenty of British stars, but among them have been guys like Paul Scholes, whose football was fairly close to what you'd think of as continental. Guys like Giggs and Rooney are perhaps more British in that one often relied on power, while the other had superb pace, but they've had plenty of ability of footballers too. Ferdinand's been one of our best defenders in this generation, and he was fairly decent on the ball for a centre back.

Yeah, we might not be able to replicate a Barcelona/Real Madrid style of play, but I do think we should be trying to play some decent stuff if we want to get back to the top. That doesn't have to mean Barca's possession based football, either. The likes of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich in recent years have done pretty damn well while often using some counter attacking football that isn't necessarily based in tiki-taka as such.
 
Dante said:
We can never beat Real and Barca at their own game. United's identity was built on a British core and an English style of play. Attempting to become a continental club will play to our weaknesses and lead to a long period in the doldrums.
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I don't understand what you mean.
 
Barney said:
We have a young team. If Sturridge, Origi, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic, Can, Coutinho, Henderson, Sakho, Moreno, Flanagan and Manquillo continue to develop as they should, then we'll be in a very nice position. Perhaps Wisdom or Ilori could do something too. If two or three out of Rossiter, Wilson, Ojo, Branagan, Sinclair, Canos and Chirivella can make it, even better.
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A few seasons ago United were saying the same about Welbeck, Anderson, Cleverley, Jones, Evans, Smalling, Rafael, Fabio, Morrison, Fryers, Hernandez, Nani, Buttner, Lawrence, De Laet, Pogba, Henriquez, Macheda, Vermijl, Bebe, Lingard, Januzaj, Wilson and more. It simply doesn't happen.
 
Our academy is very overrated, the reputation of our academy dwells on the "Class of 92" which was 23 years ago and we are hell bent on duplicating those players that we have managed to somehow rush certain academy players and disrupt their development. The last player to come out of our academy that is near world class is Paul Pogba and that was 2011 - so in 2 decades we only managed to produce 1 player who is arguably world class which spells failure.

Certain players have gone on to be solid to be fair - Wes Brown,Ryan Shawcross,John O'shea,Darren Fletcher etc but most of them were part of Fergie's system and have proven not to thrive under a different system. Rossi and Pique are arguably the only 2 players who found international success with Pique returning home and becoming a World Class player on his day - which isn't actually down to our academy, and Rossi becoming Paul Pogba before Paul Pogba ( becoming class after being dumped by us) albeit for a few seasons.

Other than that, the rest have been the "The Next Big Things" for their whole career - Cleverley,Evans,Welbeck,Spector,Richardson but haven't actually been good.
 
dxadel said:
Other than that, the rest have been the "The Next Big Things" for their whole career - Cleverley,Evans,Welbeck,Spector,Richardson but haven't actually been good.
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Cleverley, Evans and Welbeck have all played roles in the championship winning sides, they are good footballers. They are not Messi or Ronaldo but they are good players, to say otherwise is just absurd.
 
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