Unpopular Opinions Thread
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So nothing a £50 million bid won't sort out then
I'm sure Woody's already lining up Sterling, Vidal and Hummels for next summer haha.
I'm going to say that our defensive problems aren't as bad as people think. Yes I know we're only 4 games in but we've conceded less than all the top 5 from last season - only Villa in the entire League have conceded less than us so far.
With Shaw to come in and Rojo (a World Cup finalist no less) to settle plus Blackett coming along nicely IMO and not forgetting Jones didn't play on Sunday and Rafael is only just back, I don't see any reason to panic. Yes could probably do with strengthening when we get the chance, for depth and competition, but I don't think we have a 'weak defence'.
Most people I speak to at work tend to disagree....
With Shaw to come in and Rojo (a World Cup finalist no less) to settle plus Blackett coming along nicely IMO and not forgetting Jones didn't play on Sunday and Rafael is only just back, I don't see any reason to panic. Yes could probably do with strengthening when we get the chance, for depth and competition, but I don't think we have a 'weak defence'.
Most people I speak to at work tend to disagree....
Id have to say we dont have a "weak" defence, but we certainly dont have a strong one. Smalling has turned into an injured pile of pish for some reason, Jones is always injured. Rafael is class for me, and Evans needs to get over his bad form before we can rely on him to marshal the back four, although he is showing signs of improvement to be honest. Rojo impressed me in the last game and Blackett is impressing me albeit with some inexperience showing which top class attackers would be all over. Reserving judgement on Shaw till he plays.
I think he's going to end up here via another club.
Fletcher is finished, Unfortunate but he is a ghost these days, We don't have room for sentiment and I think if we do infact get Strootman then Fletcher will be released in Summer.
Don't know if this will even be classed as an unpopular opinion but I think if Smalling keeps getting these injuries he seems to be racking up then he may be another out the door in Summer.
Ryan Giggs should never become manager of Manchester United.
I completely agree with this and completely disagree with Kag. There is no way that Fletcher would have put in the performance that Blind did. Not on Sunday and not in the future. He is not Manchester United quality anymore, it's obvious to anyone, and anything else is just sentimental.
Fletcher is finished and should retire. We should be having Blind/Strootman as back-up, not Fletcher.
LvG approved Shaw's signing but he might have made Woodward aware of cheaper and at this stage much better and experienced players, who also happen to be still young. It was probably still made clear to him that being a young British lad with potential we'd like to sign him. In the end not much wrong with it, as Bayern have proven you can't let LvG decide everything, even he can make mistakes.
However I also don't think LvG currently sees Shaw as the best option and he'll struggle to be a starter at times.
LvG likes Carrick and Carrick will be here for a couple of more years as he is still a good player and he will be overjoyed to finally find out that he isn't playing with an 38 year old in a 2 men midfield.
Herrera was much more needed for our weak and unbalanced midfield (prior to the new signings) than Fabregas or Kroos. He'll also end up as our player of the season.
LvG approved Shaw's signing but he might have made Woodward aware of cheaper and at this stage much better and experienced players, who also happen to be still young. It was probably still made clear to him that being a young British lad with potential we'd like to sign him. In the end not much wrong with it, as Bayern have proven you can't let LvG decide everything, even he can make mistakes.
However I also don't think LvG currently sees Shaw as the best option and he'll struggle to be a starter at times.
LvG likes Carrick and Carrick will be here for a couple of more years as he is still a good player and he will be overjoyed to finally find out that he isn't playing with an 38 year old in a 2 men midfield.
Herrera was much more needed for our weak and unbalanced midfield (prior to the new signings) than Fabregas or Kroos. He'll also end up as our player of the season.
I think Pereira just has it all, literally everything he needs in term of talent to be a worldclass midfielder. He has a brilliant right foot, brilliant free kicks, corners, long-range shots and crosspasses, he has a very good vision for such a young lad, his passing, through balls, short pass, brilliant technique, brilliant dribbling and skills, he can pass a player but he also has very good workrate and isnt afraid of a tackle. I think he could be the complete/modern midfielder. Where I get the feeling that Januzaj isnt really a winger, and also not a #10, I think Pereira has better insight, vision than he does. But its close between them tho.
I think you'll find a lot of people agreeing with you on this. Including myself.
Oh. Well I'm glad to hear it. I just wasn't sure how popular it was which is why I put it in here.
We don't need another centre back in Jan/Summer, our current centre backs are good enough.
Out of interest do you mean Ryan Giggs taking over from LVG? If he went away for a decade, managed other clubs and became successful would you want him? Or do you dislike him for some other reason, e.g. shagging his brothers wife?
I agree too. I don't think he has the capacity to manage the team consistently week to week. Maybe with lot of experience he might be able, but I doubt it.
I don't understand this. He is 40 odd years old. If he goes elsewhere and does a great job, why shouldn't he become manager?
He shouldn't get the job if he isn't good enough. But if he is, what's the issue
I agree with the sentiments about Fletcher being finished. It's sad but football is and should be a ruthless business. Sentiment will only hold you back.
Some people are worried about the effects of sentimentality I'd say. Myself included. If he proves himself and comes back in 2 years you've got someone who played with some of these players. I worry he could become "pally" with them.
No I meant ever. I just don't think he's got what it takes to become a top manager.
This is why it's in the unpopular opinions thread. And he won't go somewhere else and go a greet job. Like Scholes, he's just not got it.
Im reserving judgement on the Giggs as manager thing, at the moment it is a definite no but hopefully this decision doesnt need to be made for a few years. Having said that it is hard to see what could change in that time that I as a fan would be privy to that would change my mind. So basically yes, I agree with the idea that Giggs should not be our next manager - and not ever until he proves his worth elsewhere.
I agree with @Dylan94 something about Giggs just doesn't strike me as top manager potential. Maybe I was a bit turned off with that Giggs programme on ITV.
I'm starting to agree I think. A defence of rafael, Jones, rojo and Shaw can be brilliant, it just needs time together. All the goals and chances we've conceded this season has basically been through stupid individual mistakes too, which comes with changing it because of the injuries. Once they stay fit, we'll be fine.
My one worry is the constant injuries to Rafael and Jones. If they can get over then, we'll be golden, but if not then we might have to buy cover, at right back at least.
Also. I don't particularly like him no. He was a brilliant, brilliant player. But I've always found him to be a pretty boring person and not someone that you can get to like to easily. And also what he did was pretty shameful and I liked him even less after that.
I do disagree with this. Smalling, Jones, and possibly Evans are good enough to be in the squad. But we need 1 or 2 world class centre back starters to truly have a team able to go toe to toe with anyone in the league and in Europe. We need a Kompany like leader in our defence and we don't have that at the moment.
I would say the fact we need a CB is a fact, not an opinion. We do not have one world class player in our back 4, all potential, so we definitely do. The opinion would surely be as to whether we need +1 after for wingback
Because if for some reason it didn't work out. Getting rid of him would cause a much bigger meltdown than selling DW to Arsenal did.
Go and read my posts and other peoples in the thread in the main forum about this, I'm not repeating myself all over again.
I would say it is too. And I agree with you. We do not have a world class defender at the moment and that is a problem. Rafael is very good, and Rojo and Shaw have the potential to very, very good. But we need a world class leader at the heart of it as I said. A Thiago Silva, Kompany, type guy.
Fully agree, but when I ask myself that, I mention the same, Silva, Kompany... who else is there at that level? Player that look to get there, Varane/ Marquinhos, but no-one the finished articleI think people are also forgetting that this season (which has pretty much been the case for the last couple of seasons), we haven't been able to field the same back three/four for two consecutive games, unlike Chelsea, Arsenal, City, etc, who have all had at least a season to get used to each other, and I personally wouldn't say they've looked any stronger than us this season - defensively. To add to that, if we continue to play three at the back, once all of our defenders are fit, it will still take time to get used to.
Like you said, if our centre backs can stay fit, and that's a big if, then I think we'll be fine.
I'm sure there are some others who aren't at their level but could get to near their level that I can't think of off the top of my head. It's just about finding the right guy.
Surely if we were going to get a 'Kompany' to be our leader, it will slow down the progression of Jones, who in about a years time could be that player?
Apart from Kompany, who in the top four would you say has a 'world class' centre back?
I suppose we have a few of them in Smalling/ Rojo/ Jones , who could all go on to be top class, but haven't yet, as you stated yourself, we need someone who is there, and currently, there are very few, i'd take the Villa lad for a year or two for some organisation/ experience.
It would, but I would much rather see a club legend (if he is up to it) in charge than an outsider.
If it doesn't work out, you have to get rid. However, worry about fan reaction to a dismissal should not be reason not to appoint a legend.
No it's just City and Kompany. But Chelsea's defence is better than ours because it's more well rounded. Liverpool and Arsenal's are probably no better than ours now but their not going to be competing at the top of England and Europe this year. I'm talking about what we need to win the big trophies. I agree they are few and far between. And I want Jones and Smalling to be given opportunities (I like Snalling more), but not both of them together. One and a world class partner is what we need for the next year or two until Jones or Smalling have either proven themselves, or not.
I think if we get a Rojo type player for the right side of the defense we should be all set. By Rojo type player I mean someone who can play both as a CB and RB without a drop in quality (I think Jones and Smalling have a big drop in quality when they play as RB).
Here is an unpopular opinion: Chelsea will get a treble this season (PL, CL and another cup) or at least the PL + CL and Mourinho will be proclaimed the greatest manager ever.
Another unpopular opinion: City who were the beast team last season will struggle this one.
Another unpopular opinion: City who were the beast team last season will struggle this one.
I do not want United to resign Ronaldo.
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