Unpopular Opinions Thread
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10 years?
No, I think it'll be improved in less time than 5.
The Glazers are good at one thing - business. They're razor sharp at it. I've always believed they will give Moyes the funds he needs to get in the players he wants in the Summer, then review the situation around December time. If there's demonstrable progress he will stay, if things are no better than now he will go as a continued underperformance by the team will start to affect revenues.
His Everton team were always among the best in the league at playing as a unit so it's hard to say it's not at least in part a reluctance on the part of the players.
Similarly, the fact Rio Ferdinand is one of the senior and more popular figures in the squad says a lot.
It is Moyes's responsibility to sort out, but, it's not something that cropped up after he walked in the door. We've seen at Chelsea and England that it can get to the point where players just wont listen to anyone over their own egos. And with England, Rio Ferdinand's name crops up again as one of the main examples
I think that comes from the fact he never really done it for England because he had Fowler/Shearer/Owen/Sheringham ahead of him at the time, he scored nearly 100 goals for us in 5/6 seasons which isnt to shabby, also scored in the big games alot too, for me he was better than Ole, Yorke and Sheringham and would have scored loads more had we not rotated so much back then
also the amount of genuine world class strikers in the mid to late 90s made us under appreciate him
Agree 100%. Has his moments... very rarely, but otherwise a big hairy ballbag.
I'd rather he didn't spend loads so eventually when he does get sacked, the next manager will get more money to spend.
Gary Neville's punditry has been below standard this year and his bias for United has come out now with his arrogant talk about "the United way"
Is this unpopular though? I think that pretty much agrees with this by now. I am not even listening to him anymore. Shame cause he was ok last season.
This shouldn't be unpopular. He's been piss poor this season.
Wait what? Awh feck off!!!....I thought I was having one of those, "Jesus, you're right Brian. How did we not spot this? You're a genius" moment
To hell with you all!!
Here's one that'll be controversial: playing for United, Welbeck has shown that he can can everything that Kagawa can do and more.
Kagawa's finishing disagrees.
No it doesn't. Kagawa's composure in front of goal has been every bit as ropey as Welbeck's.
No idea where you're getting that from, if anything Shinji is too composed in front of goal.
I've got no idea what you mean by that, because I've not seen him show any particularly good examples of finishing other than the day he got his hattrick. They both fluff their lines as often as each other, although Kagawa's only scored 7 goals in 35 the last two seasons, whereas Welbeck's scored 11 in 31.
Regardless, Kagawa's touch and vision are on a different level to Welbeck's.
His touch certainly hasn't been during his time at United. As for his vision, there have been precious few examples in the PL unfortunately. I'm still waiting for him to do what the Bundesliga videos from 3 seasons ago showed him doing. Meanwhile, some of Welbeck's dummies and flicks have been incredibly creative themselves. FWIW, in terms of assists it's 6 vs 5 in the last two years.
You seem to completely ignore the fact that Welbeck has played many more games than Kagawa.
When they were managed by Sir Alex, Kagawa created and scored more goals.
Over the last two seasons in the PL and CL, Welbeck has started 31 games and Kagawa has started 35. It's mentioned in a previous post.
It makes me laugh that you start a thread asking for unpopular opinions and then jump on the opinions of posters which you disagree with
I'm also increasingly staggered at the amount of people who think that their opinions are unpopular when they're infact....well....not at all unpopular.
It's as if people so wish to believe that their opinions are non-conformist and against the wave of popular opinion that they are completely oblivious to the fact that they aren't in the slightest bit controversial and that the majority of people would agree with them, or at least have sympathy for the opinion.
Here's a REAL unpopular opinion: Scholes and Keane were better than Cleverley and Fellaini.
It's as if people so wish to believe that their opinions are non-conformist and against the wave of popular opinion that they are completely oblivious to the fact that they aren't in the slightest bit controversial and that the majority of people would agree with them, or at least have sympathy for the opinion.
Here's a REAL unpopular opinion: Scholes and Keane were better than Cleverley and Fellaini.
Wow. This is so controversial it's almost unbelievable.
(On a more serious note, Redcafe used to be much better in this regard. The average level of poster was much better, so the discussion rarely devolved into people saying the exact same thing in different words and everyone desperate to believe they were saying something special.)
I'd sell Wayne Rooney before RVP in a heartbeat.
This is the way I see it (logically).
You'd get more money for Rooney.
RvP is a superior forward in practically every way. And whilst Rooney's good as a no. 10 or AM it's not his natural position. You have two players who play that position naturally in Mata (legit world class) and Kagawa (jury still out), and even Janujaz would be suited to the role.
The only problem is - aside from taking into amount the players wishes themselves - can RvP remain fit throughout a season? And are Hernandez or Welbeck good enough to fill in if he can't (remain fit).
I think the fact that was have Kagawa and bought Mata is just more evidence Rooney is gone in the summer.
We've been lucky in every single European cup final that we've won. Including 68.
Jesper Blomqvist could have been a great player for us.
Lee Sharpe could have been and should have been better then Giggs
Jesper Blomqvist could have been a great player for us.
Lee Sharpe could have been and should have been better then Giggs
And not playing Kagawa is part of the plan? Preserving his talents till Rooney leaves and then unleash the Kagawazilla!
He hasn't played well because our players stand around. But, I guess you could be right. Maybe he just bought a player who plays in Rooney's exact position for the hell of it.
Once we get the midfield 2 fixed, Young & Valencia will regain form. They are the future!
just kidding mate. I think that was the plan till Fergie decided to quit, then situation changed.Moyes is going to weaken the squad in the summer.
He's already started the process by ridding us of our only back-up full back in Fabio. Nani and Kagawa will be off - 2 of our most talented attackers we should be giving a run of games to get the best out of them - instead we'll keep Young and Valencia even though they've proved not good enough after being given the chances Nani and Kagawa don't get. Probably Hernandez as well. Been numerous reports he's not a fan of Rafael either.
Then there's the old guard which he'll (thankfully) be getting rid of.
That's an awful lot to replace. And without Champions League football, attracting the quality of players that will make up for the losses is going to be impossible. These scouting missions over the past few weeks will have been a massive waste of time when he realises Vidal, Kroos and Reus will have no interest in joining the 7th placed team in the PL.
He's already started the process by ridding us of our only back-up full back in Fabio. Nani and Kagawa will be off - 2 of our most talented attackers we should be giving a run of games to get the best out of them - instead we'll keep Young and Valencia even though they've proved not good enough after being given the chances Nani and Kagawa don't get. Probably Hernandez as well. Been numerous reports he's not a fan of Rafael either.
Then there's the old guard which he'll (thankfully) be getting rid of.
That's an awful lot to replace. And without Champions League football, attracting the quality of players that will make up for the losses is going to be impossible. These scouting missions over the past few weeks will have been a massive waste of time when he realises Vidal, Kroos and Reus will have no interest in joining the 7th placed team in the PL.
Jaysus, this thread is a car-crash, from start to finish.
right on topic
Indeed. With the thread that's in it, that's definitely an unpopular opinion!
I'm far from Moyes biggest fan but this really is a silly post, there is no evidence to back this up, none. In fact the opposite is closer to the truth.
Seen this once or twice in the thread, I can't see how we were lucky in 08. I re-watched it recently and I'd say we controlled the first half, Chelsea controlled the second half, and extra time was rather even. Both teams missed numerous clear cut chances (Tevez could have scored what would have been the greatest goal in CL Final history, Chelsea hit the woodwork twice) and traded periods of dominance throughout the match. If anything, one could perhaps say Chelsea were lucky as Lampard's goal was ridiculously fortuitous.
Over 2012/13 Kagawa was much much better than Welbeck, now we have a mediocre manager who cannot get an even average performance out of him.
(Actually this probably doesn't fit in this thread)
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