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Nani is underrated amongst Cafe members.
Andy Cole is our most underrated player ever and never gets any praise from our fans for the genuine world class talent he was
Nani is just about the most contentious player in the recent history of the club.
Yaya Toure is one of the most overrated players in the league
Gareth Barry has been one of the top 5 central midfielders in the premier league this season and had we swooped in and pounced out a deal for him last summer we would be fourth now in the league table.
Like I said a few times, I'd take 17th and him gone now. It'll be painful for the next few months, but will work out better for United overall.
However, since we probably won't sack him even if we did finish 17th, I just carry on hoping we win...
We haven't been playing drossball like this under SAF.
Fellaini will prove to be a great signing for us.
I wouldn't play Rooney as the leading striker, He drops back too much for that role because he wants the ball
Robin Van Persie is a bit of a baby and only likes playing when the team is doing well.
Until we sort out the midfield, we should only play one of Rooney or Van Persie. They could forge a lethal partnership, but it's not going to happen until we have a solid midfield to back them up.
Fellaini will come back and prove to be better than any of our other midfielders have been this season. He'll also look better, alongside whoever we sign in the summer, than he has done playing alongside Cleverley or Giggs.
Fellaini will come back and prove to be better than any of our other midfielders have been this season. He'll also look better, alongside whoever we sign in the summer, than he has done playing alongside Cleverley or Giggs.
Cleverley is good enough to play for United, and has regressed horribly this year.
Welbeck needs hypnosis to stop him thinking too much, he's a good player apart from that.
John O'Shea and Wes Brown are currently playing better, and looking more confident, than our team.
Welbeck needs hypnosis to stop him thinking too much, he's a good player apart from that.
John O'Shea and Wes Brown are currently playing better, and looking more confident, than our team.
And any credit he does get generally goes to his goalscoring abilities (often followed by lamenting of his finishing skill - despite the fact that that myth about him missing loads of chances was just that - a myth) when we actually turned him into a superb all round footballer.
Leaving Moyes aside, who I've run out of either patience or justification in my own reasoning to defend:
- Rio Ferdinand has proven this season that he should not only have been flogged or told to feck off in the summer, but probably should have been a few years ago. Basically as soon as his ability began to decline, because in terms of mentality he's pretty much the polar opposite of the sort of character you want influencing the rest of the squad. When he eventually gets the boot, I'll now have less respect for him than I did for Tevez, who at least didn't become such an arrogant cockend that his on field performance went down the pan.
- I think we're the laziest team in the league. We've become so blinded by success we don't bother to do or work on simple things that other teams do as a matter of course. For example, corners (defending and attacking), pressing as a unit instead of just having the odd individual sprint around everywhere. Pushing up as a unit, etc. This is another problem Moyes has inherited rather than cause.
- Fergie's message of "don't let your new manager down" seemed to disclude the fact that considering the above, a number of players were already letting him down. He seemed either blind to it or didn't really care.
- With the squad we have, we should still be easily top four, and, considering the quality of other teams, probably still challenging for the league. City would be a 4th placed team back in 2008, due to their hilarious defending and lack of quality or even adequate cover in so many areas of the pitch. Now they're comfortably the best team. The league's gone severely downhill
- Rio Ferdinand has proven this season that he should not only have been flogged or told to feck off in the summer, but probably should have been a few years ago. Basically as soon as his ability began to decline, because in terms of mentality he's pretty much the polar opposite of the sort of character you want influencing the rest of the squad. When he eventually gets the boot, I'll now have less respect for him than I did for Tevez, who at least didn't become such an arrogant cockend that his on field performance went down the pan.
- I think we're the laziest team in the league. We've become so blinded by success we don't bother to do or work on simple things that other teams do as a matter of course. For example, corners (defending and attacking), pressing as a unit instead of just having the odd individual sprint around everywhere. Pushing up as a unit, etc. This is another problem Moyes has inherited rather than cause.
- Fergie's message of "don't let your new manager down" seemed to disclude the fact that considering the above, a number of players were already letting him down. He seemed either blind to it or didn't really care.
- With the squad we have, we should still be easily top four, and, considering the quality of other teams, probably still challenging for the league. City would be a 4th placed team back in 2008, due to their hilarious defending and lack of quality or even adequate cover in so many areas of the pitch. Now they're comfortably the best team. The league's gone severely downhill
This one will be unpopular:
The Glazers should not back Moyes in the transfer market this Summer with too much money.
The Glazers should not back Moyes in the transfer market this Summer with too much money.
For as little as £14 million, the same price as players such as Yakubu, Alfonso Alves and a whole host of mediocre talents bought into this league, Nani has proven to be an absolute bargain. Given his productivity, goals, assists, impact in the winning of trophies and many good games, he's easily one of our better signings over the past few decades. This shouldn't be unpopular, as I'm correct, but many will disagree. He was bought for next to nothing.
Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and the sentimentality of a mellowing Sir Alex Ferguson are the major reasons behind our midfield situation. Both should have retired two or three years ago, as much as I love them. We would be better now as a result. It's why, and I said so in my first post in this thread, Rio should have been offloaded not just last Summer, but the one before. A player above 34 should never be a permanent fixture in a team. Milan is the ultimate victim of an over-reliance on experience and our indulgence of legends has been limiting younger players for a good 4-5 years. Of course, I don't mind all that much, watching them all is a pleasure.
Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and the sentimentality of a mellowing Sir Alex Ferguson are the major reasons behind our midfield situation. Both should have retired two or three years ago, as much as I love them. We would be better now as a result. It's why, and I said so in my first post in this thread, Rio should have been offloaded not just last Summer, but the one before. A player above 34 should never be a permanent fixture in a team. Milan is the ultimate victim of an over-reliance on experience and our indulgence of legends has been limiting younger players for a good 4-5 years. Of course, I don't mind all that much, watching them all is a pleasure.
This thread is so fun. You can reel off exaggerated opinions all you want. Here's one:
I find it very difficult to 'like' Sir Bobby. He leaves me cold, albeit I don't really know why.
I find it very difficult to 'like' Sir Bobby. He leaves me cold, albeit I don't really know why.
I've always respected him as the club legend that he is, but never liked him, and now feeling a lot of bitterness towards him if it's true that Gill pushed for Mourinho and he more or less vetoed it.
Another unpopular one (this thread is so much fan): If a lot of players don't agree with the managers methods etc, they have the right to express their opinions because it is possible that the manager is wrong. If there is only one or two though, then likely they are doing it for other reasons so they are cnuts.
Brilliant player for us...but I have a sneaking feeling he is probably a bit of a cnut in real life. Plus he has one of those voices that should be used by a professional moaner...
I stated that Moyes should have been out of this football club in the summer upon hearing his disrespectful quotes on Rooney. An unpopular opinion at the time, but proved to be correct. Moyes' man management, tactics, coaching, vision for United, and motivational ability are all wrong, and he must go as soon as possible to salvage our season.
While Cleverley was on loan at Wigan, I stated he would become at best an auxiliary wide player for us, similar to Park Ji-Sung. I saw he did not have the ability nor the mentality to become a successful central midfielder. However, I feel he should certainly stay as a squad player, and it's hurtful to see so many fans give such abuse to homegrown players like him and Welbeck. Fellaini, Giggs, Fletcher, and Anderson (permanently) should all go before Cleverley.
David Silva, a sublime player and better than Özil and Mata.
Chicharito must be sold as soon as possible. Technically far too poor for United, and he harms our play whenever he starts. Yes, he makes an impact at times from the bench, but I do not feel it vindicates how poor he is technically.
Smalling will never have enough to become an important player at United. Ferguson and now Moyes have really done their best to destroy his ability and confidence on the ball. I felt he was impressive in his first season, but now he is shambolic in possession.
Ferguson was selfish to sign van Persie instead of younger players. Likewise, he was selfish to bring back Scholes to try to have short term success instead of having the courage to give chances to Pogba. Also, Ferguson and the club should have done everything possible to entice Guardiola to replace Ferguson during his sabbatical.
Fábio should have been our starting left-back from 2011 to present. Evra has been a liability and the weakest link in our team for years and Ferguson failed to address this or give Fábio a fair chance. Now Moyes has committed the ultimate betrayal and let this passionate, talented player who has been at the club since 17 leave without a fair chance.
While Cleverley was on loan at Wigan, I stated he would become at best an auxiliary wide player for us, similar to Park Ji-Sung. I saw he did not have the ability nor the mentality to become a successful central midfielder. However, I feel he should certainly stay as a squad player, and it's hurtful to see so many fans give such abuse to homegrown players like him and Welbeck. Fellaini, Giggs, Fletcher, and Anderson (permanently) should all go before Cleverley.
David Silva, a sublime player and better than Özil and Mata.
Chicharito must be sold as soon as possible. Technically far too poor for United, and he harms our play whenever he starts. Yes, he makes an impact at times from the bench, but I do not feel it vindicates how poor he is technically.
Smalling will never have enough to become an important player at United. Ferguson and now Moyes have really done their best to destroy his ability and confidence on the ball. I felt he was impressive in his first season, but now he is shambolic in possession.
Ferguson was selfish to sign van Persie instead of younger players. Likewise, he was selfish to bring back Scholes to try to have short term success instead of having the courage to give chances to Pogba. Also, Ferguson and the club should have done everything possible to entice Guardiola to replace Ferguson during his sabbatical.
Fábio should have been our starting left-back from 2011 to present. Evra has been a liability and the weakest link in our team for years and Ferguson failed to address this or give Fábio a fair chance. Now Moyes has committed the ultimate betrayal and let this passionate, talented player who has been at the club since 17 leave without a fair chance.
Wrong thread, it's quite a popular opinion.
I think we should give Moyes the full six years..........
Yeah he's definitely not done anything to prove the complete opposite of that,
my unpopular opinion thank you very much....
It's up to Moyes to fix it though, surely? We've visibly seen on the pitch the difference managers have made to their respective teams recently, if he can't get a group of Manchester United players to start pressing properly even though he's told them and coached them to do so, then I'll accept we have big issues with player power. I highly doubt that's the case though.
We have the winner.
Well not the full 6 years but I still stand with what I said at beginning which would be to give him 2 years and if the results and style of play aren't improving we will be looking elsewhere for a new manager.
I can't believe no one has commented on this one, or do you all agree that Moyes shouldn't be backed?
Since when is £14m next to nothing in 2007?
They gave him six years...and the board should back wholeheartedly Moyes rebuilding plan unequivocally. If the board have any doubts whatsoever about his ability or judgement, then they should sack him right now.
I totally agree with you, and I've said things like it too. KidCanto probably would agree too.
Because even then, it wasn't that much money. Biyaletdinov cost over £10 million around about the same time, just as another example. And that was a thrifty Everton. There were many other average signings between the 10-15 range. The market has moved on in terms of the elite, but I don't think the mid-market is all that different.
Henderson will turn out just as good as Carrick...
Cech's a little bit overrated....
Martinez is one of the best managers in the league....
So is Rodgers...
Our midfield won't be sorted for another five years at least....
Cech's a little bit overrated....
Martinez is one of the best managers in the league....
So is Rodgers...
Our midfield won't be sorted for another five years at least....
Agree with all bar the last one.
10 years?
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