All understandable but despite these caveats LVG clearly has had a shocker. It stems largely from his inability/stubbornness to spot what is seemingly so obvious (and is frankly more infuriating than anything under Moyes because at least he had the excuse of being a man completely out of his depth). Every poster on here would tell you that Falcao and RVP have been shite; Rooney's an average midfielder; and Herrera has to start. We have great players if we play them, and when we do, play them in the right positions. All this philosophy talk is management consultancy-type bollocks which is almost irrelevant in a sport where if you have the better players - like United does in most of its games - you will win.
United under LvG: verdict so far!
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All understandable but despite these caveats LVG clearly has had a shocker. It stems largely from his inability/stubbornness to spot what is seemingly so obvious (and is frankly more infuriating than anything under Moyes because at least he had the excuse of being a man completely out of his depth). Every poster on here would tell you that Falcao and RVP have been shite; Rooney's an average midfielder; and Herrera has to start. We have great players if we play them, and when we do, play them in the right positions. All this philosophy talk is management consultancy-type bollocks which is almost irrelevant in a sport where if you have the better players - like United does in most of its games - you will win.
How is he had a shocker? We're behind the two teams we expect to be behind, we're in the position everything believes we should be in.
I do see where you are coming from, but I simply do not think it is a simple as you say it is. It isn't FM. On top of that which players of ours are great this season, or the season before? RvP and Falcao are shite (in your view), AdM is not great (yet) by any means, Herrera has not been consistently good let alone be great, our defence is all over the place, though Shaw is decent, Blind is doing fine and DDG however is absolutely great. I understand that one could argue that this is because of LvG, but we do not just simply have the great players we used to have and in areas we do have great players (on paper) we are overstocked.
I hope he starts benching those players who are badly out of form. And he needs to find a working formation that can create chances
I think the results side of things is the one positive - playing badly and winning games isnt the best position to be in but it certainly isnt the worst.
You make some good points and for me the major issues are playing a system the players dont seem to understand and putting square pegs in round holes repeatedly. As well as that, his inability to see what everyone else is seeing is troubling. The best managers are reactive and can see "the bigger picture" in a game and identify when and where its going wrong and react, and while he does that during games he doesnt seem to be able to do it game by game and as it is there is no obvious improvement.
If Blind/Carrick + one of Felliani/Herrera/Januzaj + one of Rooney/Mata isn't better than Carrick+Cleverley/Carrick + Giggs or Giggs + O'Shea, then Blind isn't worth the fees we paid for him (i still think buying players of his level was a mistake but we didn't have an option due to Moyes' failure in the market and the league)
Its hard for LVG, as when he puts players in they under perform and then one which you wouldnt have thought would perform well does. Last night for example:
Falcao up top with Rooney, neither set the world alight, Rooney especially high hopes back as a striker, but didnt do too much.
Herrera on the pitch, okay still potentially MoM but not a great dominant midfield performance
Then Fellaini goes up top and scores a goal, leaving LVG with question marks...should I try Fellaini there for a period?
Its happened few times this season, Wilson gets starts doesnt score then plays well in a game where he comes on. Januzaj gets starts doesnt do it. Di Maria doesnt do it from central but then nicks a late goal through the middle using his pace, leaving question marks.
McNair has a great game at RB after some previous slightly shakey performances - is he RB?
Its been a tough season for LVG with injuries and mixed performances not allowing him to assess players who are all playing well and in what would be regarded as their main position. He doesnt help this due to rotation of formations and systems and positions. But still, been a tough one for him, and 1 loss in 18 isn't too bad.
Performances however are still very very flat and boring.
Falcao up top with Rooney, neither set the world alight, Rooney especially high hopes back as a striker, but didnt do too much.
Herrera on the pitch, okay still potentially MoM but not a great dominant midfield performance
Then Fellaini goes up top and scores a goal, leaving LVG with question marks...should I try Fellaini there for a period?
Its happened few times this season, Wilson gets starts doesnt score then plays well in a game where he comes on. Januzaj gets starts doesnt do it. Di Maria doesnt do it from central but then nicks a late goal through the middle using his pace, leaving question marks.
McNair has a great game at RB after some previous slightly shakey performances - is he RB?
Its been a tough season for LVG with injuries and mixed performances not allowing him to assess players who are all playing well and in what would be regarded as their main position. He doesnt help this due to rotation of formations and systems and positions. But still, been a tough one for him, and 1 loss in 18 isn't too bad.
Performances however are still very very flat and boring.
When they're playing in your town
get yourself to that football ground
take a look and you will see
football killed by lvg
Still keeping the ball for the sake of keeping it without creating any chances. Strangely we're still managing to churn out results!
I think he'll turn it around, but it's not pleasant to watch.
get yourself to that football ground
take a look and you will see
football killed by lvg
Still keeping the ball for the sake of keeping it without creating any chances. Strangely we're still managing to churn out results!
I think he'll turn it around, but it's not pleasant to watch.
Playing Jones/McNair ahead of Smalling/Valencia is beyond stupid. What is he thinking?
I simply don't understand our tactics.
Agree about McNair in particular, but right now is not really the time to criticize LVG. Quite decent first half.
Not as bad as picking Fellaini over Mata.
I'm actually quite pleased with our attacking play for the first time in what seems like a while. Some of our football going forward was good to watch.
Just a few players letting us down at the moment.
Just a few players letting us down at the moment.
Not that we failed tactically today.
This is why people shouting out "We're 3rd. Stop complaining!!!!" were talking plain garbage.
Over 90 minutes it wasn't much. Usually ended with a poor cross. If your football philosophy relies on crossing the ball then you're not thinking right.
Big error replacing both fullbacks instead of changing the formation
Starting RVP again, playing a formation where Blind is isolated in midfield again. We are terrible in terms of decisiveness.
Subs made no sense at all.
He's a garbage manager with garbage tactics and garbage substitutions, and he's a belligerent unlikeable wanker to boot. He has no idea what he's doing and all the bluff and bluster just serves to conceal his utter lack of ability. He's been humiliatingly sacked from every major appointment he's ever been given and I have no idea why we were stupid enough to think this time would be any different.
I'm sorry - he doesn't seem to have any idea how he can get anything out this squad. We've been beyond lucky in a lot of games this season.
This is not United.
Deserves the sack for insisting on keeping RVP on...
In all seriousness though, failure to finish top four should resort in he's sacking.
In all seriousness though, failure to finish top four should resort in he's sacking.
A bit kak
4th's gone, he's gone. Start thinking about the next manager. Cheers!
It's fair to say he is doing a worse job than david Moyes considering the the money he spent
I'll ask again; is this much better than Moyes' United?
We'll get 4th. Spend in the summer and win the league next year. Good times ahead.
He's been absolute shit, utter shite.
Was this your opinion when we hired him?
Yes, actually, it was, and you can look back on my posting history if you like. I've been nothing but consistent in my dislike of him.
Dire to watch - just awful. Young should have started, as should Valencia. Di Maria shouldn't get near the pitch on current form - and why is RvP always starting!
He won't be here next season.
Just hope he takes RVP with him when he goes.
Just hope he takes RVP with him when he goes.
Really poor again. Our team can't play together and we have so many top player just out of form. Yet he sits there and claims how well everything is going. It just can't be that every other game we have a different formation
Love your optimism. But no. If you can't put in a performance and win against Swansea, who have been playing absolute gash recently, then you're not going to beat an inform Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or City, not to mention Spurs on the way up.
He's finished, he's spent a bunch of cash, then complains about not having balance, then plays players out of position, plays out of form players, and then has the mind to say "We're one of the best in the league". He's living on borrowed time. De Gea is the reason for our good defence record. Our wins have been extremely fortunate bar a few decent performances.
He won't reach his goals, which means he'll have to go.
Ah fair enough. I won't bother to look through your posts, but consistency is respectable. Just a lot of knee-jerk, flip-flop stuff after a bad result. But if you've been of that opinion all along, then fair play.
It was baffling. At the end of this weekend we could be sat in 5th, 2 points from the top 4, with Spurs only 1 point behind us.
Very disappointed in him. He is supposed to make the big decisions but he refuses to bench/sub RVP while RVP clearly needs to be benched.
I'm Dutch too but if RVP plays like he's currently playing i don't even want him near the starting line up and maybe not even at the club... but Louis van Gaal keeps using him for 90 minutes.
I'm Dutch too but if RVP plays like he's currently playing i don't even want him near the starting line up and maybe not even at the club... but Louis van Gaal keeps using him for 90 minutes.
Terrible football, not getting the results.
The clock is surely well and truly ticking for him.
/kneejerking
The clock is surely well and truly ticking for him.
/kneejerking
Ah well no worries then, glad It's so easy.
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