Giggs is the latest to say he's happy with the current squad.Looking more likely that we will go with what we have , unless there is a sudden mad rush in the next two weeks.
United in this Summer transfer window
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I think this is going to be the case. A little disappointing but it's the same team that won the league last season, it'll be good enough to compete for it again.
Giggs is just saying what Rio and others have said all summer - it'd be good to sign someone but it wouldn't be a tragedy to go into the season without reinforcements because it's the squad that won the title last season. Nothing unusual as he's hardly going to say that our midfield needs strenghtening. The players are not going to say something controversial as we all know how the media can spin your words.
Moyes said yesterday that we're closer to getting someone and it apparently isn't Fellaini and what the manager says is all that matters. I still think we'll get two players this month, hopefully midfielders.
Moyes said yesterday that we're closer to getting someone and it apparently isn't Fellaini and what the manager says is all that matters. I still think we'll get two players this month, hopefully midfielders.
I don't think he clarified whether it was Fellaini or not.
He didn't but said that Fellaini sitting out Everton's friendly had nothing to do with United. Martinez said that they have not received approaches for their players lately so I'd guess it's not Fellaini. Of course, it's anyone's guess really.
There's no point buying a player for the sake of buying. The Squad as proved last season are championship material, the issue we have is that our first 11 isn't good enough. Yes our midfield needs reinforcement, but we need first 11 reinforcement not squad, and that's much harder to find. I think we're being sensible and not rushing ourselves and splashing out on panic buys.
I posted on here before that an Evertonian on another forum had said that it was one of Moyes' traits at Everton to say that things were 'close' when nothing was appearing to be happening and then Everton would precede to sign nobody.
So far I'd say this seems very similar to that.
That's a bit depressing. Let's hope he fully realizes that he's not at Everton anymore and we cannot afford to stand still, no matter what we won last season.
He's already promised new signings and conceded that we're short in midfield so it'd be inexcusable if we once more don't address our main weakness. It'd also not help Woody's new scapegoat status on here, especially when Phelan's not around anymore.
I wouldn't pay attention to that. Two things - firstly I bet we will hear a lot of crap from everton supporters about Moyes and what he 'did' at Everton, especially if its something we are worried about, even though they will fail to produce any evidence of that.
Second, and perhaps more likely, that may have 'happened', however, for different reasons. We should never link Moyes at Everton to Moyes at United, except for the fact he proved to be an excellent manager. It's quite possible that they may have been 'close' on a number of occasions, but that their financial constraints stopped things. I can think of a number of times that happened with SAF too : Hazard, Lucas, Sneijder, Nasri, Benzema, Ozil etc.
The idea that Moyes is somehow lying to get people excited is silly, and would only work against him. It would work much better for him as a manager...particularly one at united to say that he doesn't need any more players and is happy with squad, but if someone excellent and value for money comes along we will go for it....just trying to think if we've ever heard that before as united fans.
It's like Groundhog Day here with all these "the squad is strong enough" soundbites emanating from senior sources within the squad.
I feel confident that with current squad we will compete for the league. However, in Europe we will struggle big time against class teams.
this whole midfield situation is getting ridiculous now. in all other departments we are spoilt with quality and quantity, more we have youngsters kicking for their places in the first teams yet midfield is such a feck up.
IMO this is the dark side of Ferguson and Gill's heritage. They left us in the best possible situation where club is really strong but they are the ones who need to take blame for not reinforcing midfield for the half of the decade now.
My guess which i expressed few years ago was that once we neglected the midfield we would struggle to reinforce it again. We will either pay loads of extra cash for top class player or will buy time with two decent player making up the numbers in midfield. United being United they will not anybody to rip them off- so what is the solution? Waiting for youngsters to move to the first team? unlikely - as we saw with with Clev, Welbeck and Fabio we rather loan players to other clubs to gain experience.
I still fail to comprehend why make stupid i mean very low bids for midfielders - 5 mil for Dembele last summer what simply insulting, 25 mil for Fabregas was just stupid.
Until the club is ready to pay over the fair market value we will not buy a decent player.
this whole midfield situation is getting ridiculous now. in all other departments we are spoilt with quality and quantity, more we have youngsters kicking for their places in the first teams yet midfield is such a feck up.
IMO this is the dark side of Ferguson and Gill's heritage. They left us in the best possible situation where club is really strong but they are the ones who need to take blame for not reinforcing midfield for the half of the decade now.
My guess which i expressed few years ago was that once we neglected the midfield we would struggle to reinforce it again. We will either pay loads of extra cash for top class player or will buy time with two decent player making up the numbers in midfield. United being United they will not anybody to rip them off- so what is the solution? Waiting for youngsters to move to the first team? unlikely - as we saw with with Clev, Welbeck and Fabio we rather loan players to other clubs to gain experience.
I still fail to comprehend why make stupid i mean very low bids for midfielders - 5 mil for Dembele last summer what simply insulting, 25 mil for Fabregas was just stupid.
Until the club is ready to pay over the fair market value we will not buy a decent player.
Rio's a transfer muppet apparently.
Transfers are going down to the final 3 days of the window when better deals can be made. Players and agents would be more likely to accept offers then.
That's crap from your mate tbh. Looking back at evertons time under Moyes, he's bought every window and that doesn't compute at all with your comment.
No, you've misunderstood.
His point was not that they didn't buy, just that Moyes often said things were close when they weren't often signing players in rushed deals towards the end of the window.
I think it's probably accurate, Moyes' transfers at Everton were very sporadic some good signings, some stinkers.
Do you think he's walking around wondering why blue isn't the prominent colour at Everton anymore?
Very good Drac. I can't see Moyes spinning yarns just to get the fans going either, but there's some who can. Weird if you ask me. Now if you really want to put a positive spin on the Hazard et al transfers, you could always say that United deserve credit for not partaking in a transfer merry-go-round that results in massive inflation, increased player power, and the unjust enrichment of agents.
As for this year, we've got some damned good youngsters coming through and that's where I'd like to see most of the first team coming from. Can't imagine we'll ever see another class of 1992, but you never know.
'Course he's happy, he gets to play more.
Seriously though, if Giggs thinks we don't need additions Moyes may want to think about alternative coaches to assist him, given Giggs' blindness.
Cristiano Ronaldo has just been spotted at Manchester Airport apparently.......probably flown in by pteradactyl.......
This has to be without doubt the most boring/ frustrating transfer window I can ever remember, particularly as a United fan, but even in general it doesn't feel like it has been the most interesting of transfer windows. The best we have done so far is not lose anyone significant! Bidding on players with no interest and a club not willing to sell has seemed pretty pointless, even if there is more to it than might seem apparent. All the initial excitement on Thiago was of course blown away by Bayern getting him. So at this point I feel drained and devoid of transfer window love. If we are not going to sign anyone I'd almost rather fast forward the transfer window and get started with the season and a few trial games for our youngsters!
My fear is that the youngsters, as good as they looked in pre-season, are not strong enough for the Premiership. They need to bulk up and get more experience under their belts.
My fear is that the youngsters, as good as they looked in pre-season, are not strong enough for the Premiership. They need to bulk up and get more experience under their belts.
You are missing the point. As you indicate, the youngsters look fantastic, but you'll see they are attack-minded. They will get their chance in due course hopefully.
Our central midfield is average. Take away Carrick and we are fecked. Luiz Gustavo is so obviously a better partner for Carrick than Cleverly and Anderson are, and ever will be. I'm not saying we HAVE to get Gustavo, I'm just saying there are better central midfielders in say, Europe, than Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs.
I know it's Monday but I ve given up hope seeing us signing someone and I m getting the impression that someone is taking the piss inventing stories about Fabregas/Bale and Ronaldo.
Behaving rationally, and ignoring the little greedy muppet inside of me, I still think there s nothing to be worried about - I mean we re the champions elect and have some good young players on the verge of bigger things : Januzaj, Lindgard, Zaha, Powell to name a few.
However there are still some areas of concern, mainly
- Jones/Smalling/Evans are still not up to the levels set by Vidic and Ferdinand (now getting old and more crocked than ever) and
- lack of cover for Carrick.
Behaving rationally, and ignoring the little greedy muppet inside of me, I still think there s nothing to be worried about - I mean we re the champions elect and have some good young players on the verge of bigger things : Januzaj, Lindgard, Zaha, Powell to name a few.
However there are still some areas of concern, mainly
- Jones/Smalling/Evans are still not up to the levels set by Vidic and Ferdinand (now getting old and more crocked than ever) and
- lack of cover for Carrick.
Anything in tomorrow's papers?
Lots of consonants and vowels with a few numbers and apostrophes too, I'd wager.
CaughtOffside are claiming that we've signed a 15 year old Irish defender called Jimmy Dunne. They are refering to the Irish Independent with quotes from the player, so it's a signing dammit
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/0...d-edge-out-chelsea-to-sign-teenage-defender/?
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/0...d-edge-out-chelsea-to-sign-teenage-defender/?
Wishful thinking that mate, if you stand still you end up going backwards. I expect Chelsea and City to be far better this season than they were last year, therefore we have to be better too if we have aspirations to do more than simply compete. Moyes must appreciate we need more than what we have in the midfield, which is why he has been trying to sign midfielders of unquestionable quality. I think he also realises that if he does not win the league, it will be seen as a far bigger failure than if SAF failed to win it under the same circumstances.
He will surely be doing everything he can to try and do as well as possible in both the league and in Europe, and for that we need at least one significant signing.
This will be remembered as the worst summer in the last 25 yrs
Certainly the quietest Summer in the way of big money signings.
Yet... there could still be a massive Bale/Rooney/Suarez shaped shit storm on the horizon.
I was listening to the new Ramble this morning and them going through half the Premiership clubs talking about the decent signings that have been made in the league (like Medel to Cardiff, Giaccherini to Sunderland, City's/Spurs buys and so on) reminded me that a lot of clubs in the league have actually improved this summer - to what extent of course remains to be seen, but yeah... lots of Premiership teams have quickly and quietly gone about their business this summer.
I think United are done in the transfer market for this summer. Moyes will go ahead with this team.
I feel like prodding Moyes with a stick and telling him to do something.
I feel like prodding Moyes with a stick and telling him to do something.
This is the worst transfer window ever as a United supporter!
Why? We've not sold anyone essential and we have signed a promising Uruguayan full back as well as got Zaha after initially setting up the deal in January. It's been a good window.
In 2009 we lost Ronaldo and signed Valencia, Obertan and Owen. It was much worse in terms of the relation between the strength of team at the beginning of the Summer and at the end of it. This year we're stronger now than 2 months ago thanks to Varela and Zaha.
I think the time we lost Ince, Hughes and Kanchelskis was a million times worse than this year!