Well I think we need another winger and Bale fits the bill perfectly. I'd be disappointed if we didn't at least try and unsettle him a bit. Both are extremely unlikely transfers though. As other people have mentioned Thiago would make perfect sense which is why we probably won't sign him either (see Dembele).
United in this Summer transfer window
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Well I think we need another winger and Bale fits the bill perfectly. I'd be disappointed if we didn't at least try and unsettle him a bit. Both are extremely unlikely transfers though. As other people have mentioned Thiago would make perfect sense which is why we probably won't sign him either (see Dembele).
An almost completely useless graphic from Talkshite
Where has this uncertainty re Vidic come from? It's been mentioned a few times on the Caf. He's our captain and most important CB. I really don't get it 
Where has this uncertainty re Vidic come from? It's been mentioned a few times on the Caf. He's our captain and most important CB. I really don't get it
Probably due to the Garay stuff last night.
So according to Miguel Delaney (If that is his real name ) Our targets are as follows;
Ronaldo
Thiago
Fabregas
Strootman
Garay
Lewandowski.
) Our targets are as follows;Ronaldo
Thiago
Fabregas
Strootman
Garay
Lewandowski.
An almost completely useless graphic from Talkshite
Well described.
"Ryan Giggs: Not for sale"
So according to Miguel Delaney (If that is his real name
Ronaldo
Thiago
Fabregas
Strootman
Garay
Lewandowski.
I'll take them.
In fairness Delaney said we're "in" for them, but keeping a lot of "plates spinning" and expecting some of them to "break".
Just hope the main plates don't break!
Just hope the main plates don't break!
Vidic's contract expires next summer?
So according to Miguel Delaney (If that is his real name
Ronaldo
Thiago
Fabregas
Strootman
Garay
Lewandowski.
So in other words a list of players we have already been linked to by dozens of other sources.
Look I have contact with people connected to United and this is what they are saying
Rooney is staying.
Strootman and Thiago will sign.
We're not getting Fabregas or Lewandowski.
They were not too sure about the Garay signing.
They are 100% sure Ronaldo is coming back, the deal is already complete.
So what do you think, am I an ITK or am I just spouting info based on what is out there in the rumor mill or just pulling it out of my ass?
To be fair, if Delaney was a bullshit merchant I'd expect him to be talking about other clubs as well, particularly since he's based in London. He only really comments on United though and has done for a long while. I'd believe that he has a source at United, the question is how well placed and reliable the source is.
It's the summer silly season, I just posted what the journo said in a thread about United in this transfer window, nothing deeper than that, I never claimed I believed it was accurate. I'll believe a signing when the club confirms it, until then it's mostly speculation to varying degrees.
Which is most probably bullshit. We already have 5 first team centre backs, not to mention Michael Keane and Tom Thorpe coming through. Why would we need another?
He gets lots of stuff wrong but people seem to trust him because he replies to everything on Twitter, he even said Fergie was considering getting rid of DDG after the Spurs game.
ITK's are like psychics people will remember the 1 out of 100 they got right, but forget the ones they got wrong. Heck they will even give them credit for things they did not predict. Sort of like Jean Dixon who supposedly predicted JFK's death, she actually predicted Nixon's death because her prediction was Nixon would win the election but not survive his first term.
Now my actual thoughts on United's transfers this summer.
Ronaldo, well this is the best chance of us bringing him back since the first rumors of his return started about a month after he left, but I still think it has a very low chance of happening.
Of the players we are rumored to be after Thiago and Strootman seem the most likely. Can't always say exactly why some rumors seem more likely than others but these two have "that feel" about them to me. Probably just wishful thinking.
Not feeling the whole Moyes bringing in players from Everton vibe. We see these types of rumors everytime a manager changes jobs and yet most of the rumored moves do not happen.
If Lindegaard is sold then we might go in for a new #2, I am thinking Friedel might be a longshot at that. Supposedly available, probably not expensive, veteran. At this point in his career might accept the #2 spot. Probably wrong here also.
Bebe and Macheda probably gone, but big deal, not like they were playing a lot for us when not loaned out anyways. Most likely to be sold the same names as everyone lists Rooney, Nani, Anderson.
The whole Garay thing strikes me as this summers Gaitan. We keep being told deal is done, gentlemans agreement reached, but nothing official comes out. If deal was done it would be announced, no reason to keep it a secret.
Ronaldo, well this is the best chance of us bringing him back since the first rumors of his return started about a month after he left, but I still think it has a very low chance of happening.
Of the players we are rumored to be after Thiago and Strootman seem the most likely. Can't always say exactly why some rumors seem more likely than others but these two have "that feel" about them to me. Probably just wishful thinking.
Not feeling the whole Moyes bringing in players from Everton vibe. We see these types of rumors everytime a manager changes jobs and yet most of the rumored moves do not happen.
If Lindegaard is sold then we might go in for a new #2, I am thinking Friedel might be a longshot at that. Supposedly available, probably not expensive, veteran. At this point in his career might accept the #2 spot. Probably wrong here also.
Bebe and Macheda probably gone, but big deal, not like they were playing a lot for us when not loaned out anyways. Most likely to be sold the same names as everyone lists Rooney, Nani, Anderson.
The whole Garay thing strikes me as this summers Gaitan. We keep being told deal is done, gentlemans agreement reached, but nothing official comes out. If deal was done it would be announced, no reason to keep it a secret.
Manchester United manager David Moyes handed £60m transfer kitty by Glazers to spend on new players
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...kitty-by-Glazers-to-spend-on-new-players.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...kitty-by-Glazers-to-spend-on-new-players.html
It'll be a bit of a shock to the system of suddenly having so much money to spend...he'll feel like Mark Hughes.
"although the £60 million United have earmarked this year is already in excess of anything Ferguson was given in his 26-year reign as manager."
Ferguson 07-08 budget was 62 mill.
Ferguson 07-08 budget was 62 mill.
Moyes is probably sitting in some corner, laughing, stroking the phone that shows the text sent from Glazers stating he has that £60million to spend.
Until he realises that simply being United means that we normally have to add extra onto every deal we aim for.
He won't be getting Premiership level players for £2m anymore, like when he used to raid us.
Fair point, but can you name a journalist who hasn't made a wrong call? I can't, yet I know journalists obviously do have proper sources at clubs, otherwise they wouldn't get any stories. It might be that their sources get the information wrong or it might be that the journalist exaggerates the information he's been given, but a bad call doesn't automatically equate to the journalist being a pure bullshit merchant. I think it's a bit simplistic to say "he said X would happen but it didn't so he must be lying". I would imagine that it'd be very easy to get bad information or for circumstances to change after you've been informed. The Lucas transfer last year is a prime example. The likes of Delaney and a few others said United had him, but then he signed for PSG. People started criticising him for lying but he said that United themselves had been convinced the deal was done before PSG swooped. This was later confirmed by other journalist both here and in France. The point being, a bad call isn't always solely the journalists fault.
I just wonder why he has a decent reputation as to being reliable, I tend to rubbish the people where it seems they have an unlimited supply of stories coming from a club, here's the articles he's written from last season - http://search.espn.go.com/results?searchString=manchester united&start=16&dims=4294407544
They include United "poised to table Wanyama bid", United open to De Gea offers, United weigh up Sneijder bid, United open talks to sign Fabregas and United eye sponsors to fund Ronaldo bid - it's just the typical tabloid nonsense stories
Delaney is full of shit. Look at his tweets after Madrid knocked United out. He is about as much an ITK when it comes to United as I am.
The main thing I remember him tweeting after the Madrid game was that there were problems between Rooney and Ferguson and that he could leave in the summer. Doesn't look like he was far wrong does it?
Yeah, fair enough, even he says he got the Wanyama bid wrong. Things like that De Gea story are where I could see a journalist exaggerating things. For example, if a source told him "there are concerns over De Gea", that turns into "there are concerns over De Gea, they're considering selling him". The Fabregas one is hardly off the mark is it? Other journalists in both Manchester and Spain have confirmed that we've approached Barcelona over Cesc.
Anyway, my point wasn't that I'd believe everything Delaney says, it's that I would believe he has sources at United. I wouldn't take anything any journalist says at face value, but if a combination of journalist I kinda trust start saying something then I begin to believe. I'd listen to the likes of Delaney, Ducker, Ogden, Hunter, Lowe, Rory Smith and Honegstein, if a few of them say we're going for a player (as is the case with Cesc and Thiago) then I think it's probably true.
So in other words he was tweeting what many pundits were saying after the Madrid tie.
Honestly why would you give him credit for writing what every one was saying the moment the line up came out and Rooney was not starting.
I agree, it's just I wouldn't include Delaney amongst them, he comes off as a huge bullshitter, he answers every question as if he knows the inside situation on every single player/issue within the squad.
So in other words he was tweeting what many pundits were saying after the Madrid tie.
Honestly why would you give him credit for writing what every one was saying the moment the line up came out and Rooney was not starting.
Two points, 1) He had reported on problems between Ferguson and Rooney well before the Madrid game, 2) you only have to look through the Rooney thread to see how many people dismissed those stories as journalists making up bullshit, totally unwilling to believe that there might be a problem with Rooney. Hasn't turned out that way has it? Other journalists were reporting it as well but it's not like it was universally accepted. He made a call (along with other journos) and it turned out he was right. I'm not saying that was some amazing insight on his part, I was just responding to the idea that he was spouting pure nonsense after the Madrid game.
Fair enough, comes down to who you trust I guess. I'm not sayinng he doesn't exaggerate or act as if he's better informed than he actually is, but I do think he has some sources at the club. That makes it worthwile adding to the Venn diagram of journalist info as far as I'm concerned.
Is this too simplistic?
With Scholes retiring, all we really need is Alcantara.
Alternatively, if the mass clear out is happening, then Rooney, Nani, Anderson & Evra are leaving & so we will need Alcantara, Strootman, Ronaldo, Baines & Lewandowski.
Would you be happy with scenario 1 or do you want scenario 2 & full muppet mode?
With Scholes retiring, all we really need is Alcantara.
Alternatively, if the mass clear out is happening, then Rooney, Nani, Anderson & Evra are leaving & so we will need Alcantara, Strootman, Ronaldo, Baines & Lewandowski.
Would you be happy with scenario 1 or do you want scenario 2 & full muppet mode?
It's too simplistic for me. I don't know how we can only need Thiago, when we still only have one defensive minded midfielder in the whole squad. If Carrick gets injured we have absolutely no replacement. I just don't see what effective system we could play without Carrick or someone similar in the team.
Even with no mass clear out buying thiago would still leave us with same concern over Carrick we have had for the past 2 years, if not longer. So i am all for buying a Thiago or a Fabregas, but i do not believe we can reasonably expect another injury free season whilst maintaining top form from Carrick. It's unrealistic to expect that once again in my view.
Don't care who it is, Strootman, Fellaini, whoever. I just hope we can finally sort out our weakest area, and look to move forward rather than continuing SAF's policy of making do.
An interesting post, a poster asserting he has reliable contacts with the club. Sounds great to me.
Rooney staying, Ronaldo coming home, Thiago coming in and Strootman coming in. That's sensational stuff, if it all comes to pass. If the football gods do in fact allow this to come to pass, the treble is ON!
Can you shed some light on who will be leaving?
I just asked my wife about whether she thinks Ronaldo is coming back. She says no, but she concedes she has no contacts with the club.
I do know one of the tour guides, Alan Lester -- who has been to every United match at Old Trafford since 1948 (no typo) -- so I suppose I could ask him, but I doubt he would know anything that isn't already in the public domain.
It's still only mid June, so we've got a long way to go, amigos.
I do know one of the tour guides, Alan Lester -- who has been to every United match at Old Trafford since 1948 (no typo) -- so I suppose I could ask him, but I doubt he would know anything that isn't already in the public domain.
It's still only mid June, so we've got a long way to go, amigos.
why are we in for Garay?
I don't know anyone & I don't know anything.
Ronaldo may or may not be coming.
Ronaldo may or may not be coming.
If it is choice between Ronaldo or Bale, who would the cafe pick?
I am torn, personally. I guess I would favor Bale because of his age, left foot and that he is British.
I am torn, personally. I guess I would favor Bale because of his age, left foot and that he is British.