Obscure reports, low fee, the fact that we're not likely to buy anyone, swapping Tosic for a player who is far more promising, other clubs with more financial muscle on the prowl and looking to strengthen, general negativity, the alignment of the stars, the fact that we're not likely to buy anyone etc.
United eyes on Krasic
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Obscure reports, low fee, the fact that we're not likely to buy anyone, swapping Tosic for a player who is far more promising, other clubs with more financial muscle on the prowl and looking to strengthen, general negativity, the alignment of the stars, the fact that we're not likely to buy anyone etc.
Is there any substance to this story then?
Or it is just another rubbish journo spunkfest?
Or it is just another rubbish journo spunkfest?
Right now he is of course. Krasic was Serbia's best player in the WCQ campaign, whereas Tosic made sub appearances.
jebem ti pesimizam, cheer up and have some hope mate
The alignment of the stars did it for me.Why are we getting another winger?
I'm sure he can play anywhere in the attacking midfield role. Something we're lacking.
He's not an attacking midfielder as far as I have read/heard? Don't need another player who can 'do a job' in positions they don't normally play in.
Vuc from what I have seen of Krasic he is similar in style to Kanchelskis
Yes he does, definitely more than Park.
vuc pls do the caf a favor and explain where he plays, what are his characteristics and whether you think that these rumours are reliable or not.
Don't think they're true. No money and similar to a player we already have so can't fathom we're buying another of this type.
Mate its been discussed enough in this very thread. Look at the video on the first page and you can see what type of player he is.
First I heard of the rumours were this morning so who knows.
Though I find it odd that Tosic would go to CSKA but he wouldn't have a say in it.
The overwhelming opinion on Serbian forums is that Tosic should not go to Russia but rather try to stay in the Bundesliga. Although, as vuc said, Tosic is not going to have a say in it.
As for Krasic I think he can play anything up front. He is obviously wasted as a striker but any wing or attacking midfield position suits him perfectly especially since he has quite a powerful shot, his deep crossings as well as short passing is excellent. And he is quick and runs like a maniac. 24, quite experienced, cant really go wrong with that dude.
As for Krasic I think he can play anything up front. He is obviously wasted as a striker but any wing or attacking midfield position suits him perfectly especially since he has quite a powerful shot, his deep crossings as well as short passing is excellent. And he is quick and runs like a maniac. 24, quite experienced, cant really go wrong with that dude.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. Valencia is a bit too one dimensional to be called similar to Krasic IMO. His off the ball movement is on a another level to Valencia's for starters. As is his intelligence and awareness. In fact I agree with the other poster who said he reminded him of Kanchelskis. Because that is the player Park has always remind me of. In terms of off the ball movement and awareness.
That wouldn't affect why he could be played inside tbf. He would only do so because of the tactical flexibility he can offer. One could easily play both Nani, Valencia and him in the same side I believe.
For CSKA or example I've seen him play at the head of a diamond to great effect. That is why talked of the Lampard likeness. The way we love 4-3-3 against certain sides, the fella IMO could easily do such a Lampard like job in the center. He would simply be a night mare for DM's to deal with in such a formation and offers a goal threat.
Yet he would still be an asset for the side down the flanks when we play 4-4-2/4-2-3-1 with 2 wingers. Whoever gets him will benefit from this versatility I feel.
That he can definitely do.
A lot of people mention this about Valencia. But I actually think his off the ball movement is great. Many times he will come short and then spin in behind the full back without the ball.
He got better at it as the season wore on. But it's still behind that of Park and Nani for me. He hasn't yet mastered the damage he could do off the ball with the pace he possesses. When he does, no one will talk of how one footed he is again.
Yes but you also have to look at Nani and Park are right footed playing on the left. It is natural for them to come inside, which is much harder to pick up and therefore looks like they are making better movements than Valencia. Valencia's natural direction is to go down the line, but he did mix it up well I thought too at times.
I disagree. Even down the right their movement is better. That is why Nani, for example is a bigger threat than Valencia even down the right.
Not enough. He is still weak in that department. But he was improving as the season progressed. The best he played off the ball this season IMO was vs Bayern at and vs Spurs at home. The only way the fullback could live with him was by fouling. His movement kept them off balance and wrong footed all the time.
Only £11m + a player we do not really need? (not taking anything away from Tosic, I'd have loved to see him get a chance here, but it seems it wasn't to be) Now that would be 'value for money'!
Krasic looks a fantastic player, but we really don't need another winger.
Nani
Valencia
Giggs
Park
Obertan
Cleverley (Assuming we don't loan him out)
Tosic
Hargreaves (Can play wide)
Thats more then enough.
Nani
Valencia
Giggs
Park
Obertan
Cleverley (Assuming we don't loan him out)
Tosic
Hargreaves (Can play wide)
Thats more then enough.
Honestly, Krasic looks far superior compared to Obertan, Cleverly, Tosic, and even a bit better than Park, Hargo and Valencia- at the moment at least. Nani is given, of course and Giggs will have to stop playing eventually.
Also, Krasic is not just simply a winger but can play midfield as well. The way he looks now he would considerably strengthen our team and improve our game.
Valencia is superb, Nani is probably slightly better on the right than the left. Why on earth would be sign a right winger? To bench Valencia who we just bought for a handsome sum of money and had a superb debut season?
Superior or not, we do have lots of options there. Very good ones too the lot of them.
Exactly what I was thinking.. Which is why if we are in the market for a winger it should be one that can mainly operate from the left IMO.. Di Maria comes to mind..
25 squad limit. 4 very good wingers, 3 young ones two of which impressed while out on loan, and another one when fit is very good down the right as well. Only two can play at a time.. okay.
Giggs will be utilised in central midfield. Tosic will be sold, Hargreaves is a central midfielder and if I remember well Cleverley did well while on loan as central midfielder. This leaves us to Nani, Obertan, Valencia and Park with the latter being tried in various occasions as the spear head in a 451 system.
I doubt that we will get Krasic but if he is so good and he is on cheap {11m and Tosic is cheap for an excellent winger} then I wont be surprised if we get him.
I am under the impression that Krasic is more similar to Arshavin than any of our players, no?
If we play Rooney up top Krasic on the right, Valencia right of the three midfield players. Park Central with Giggs left of the three and Nani left. That would be five wingers in the team. I suppose we could squeeze another one in at right back. That would leave Cleverly and Obertan as back up. I think only having two wingers as back up to a regular five playing leaves us a bit short so perhaps we would bring in another one just to be on the safe side.
To united fans there is no such thing as too many wingers. It's like a crack addiction
To united fans there is no such thing as too many wingers. It's like a crack addiction
Nah. Valencia with more skill and a bigger goal threat.
Fantastic player but our we just over crowding a position that doesn't need to be?!! Can't quite see the logic at the minute.
I thought they used him out wide, re Cleverly.
Giggs.. like most of the time last season? Or did he play a new position, central midfield but drift endlessly out wide.
You are correct that Hargreaves is a central midfielder. But that doesn't mean he can't play well out wide. We used him there in the CL final to good effect!
SAF has stated that he wanted Giggs in central midfield for years. He didn't do that mainly because of the injuries and because none of our wingers did enough to replace him on the left flank at a long term basis. Mind you I don't think that we will be signing Krasic either. Stating that if Krasic is on cheap + the Russian club wants Tosic then I won't be suprised if SAF signs him up.
Fair enough. But still don't see the need for the guy right now since we have a starter for each position and plenty enough people who are comfortable on each side as covers and competition.
no. he is more similar to Valencia in fact.
Krasic ran rings around us at OT. I watched most of United matches last season and Krasic probably caused us the most problems of anyone opposition player we faced. He's a world class player.
Can you imagine if we signed him? Vuc would corner the market in ky jelly and kleenex
He's nothing like Valencia. He's more like Arseshaving..
Why am I posting in the Transfer Forbum???? Anyway, I reckon he's probably a more realistic signing and I reckon United are sort of looking to sign somebody in that bracket rather then the more established names. United has a policy of signing players who they believe can develop to the next level.
For those saying we have enough wingers: Giggs is like 450 years old and could be used in a more central role again (like in 2008/09) if Fergie decides to bring in a new winger. Obertan has everything to prove yet, Tosic is likely to be sold, Hargreaves is a central player who is hardly ever fit and Cleverley has a very long way to go to be even considered starting material for a club like United. He will certainly be part of the squad, but I guess he'll get an Obertan-like role next season - 10-20 games at very best in the Cups and against teams we are expected to beat.
Krasic can play left, right, centre, would add a bit of creativity and is still quite young. I'd have him in a heart-beat and play him in an interchanging front three Nani, Valencia and Krasic just behind Rooney.
Krasic can play left, right, centre, would add a bit of creativity and is still quite young. I'd have him in a heart-beat and play him in an interchanging front three Nani, Valencia and Krasic just behind Rooney.