United’s next manager

Marco Rose, we need a change.
Poch will not be the right man, as I fear he will not change the team.
But again, changing the manager is not solving all the problems. We have far more problems than just Ole.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
I was hoping the Ole as DOF idea has died, but nope here it is.

It is honestly so blasphemous to me.

He fails as the manager, but let's promote him and have him oversee our next manager.

Ridiculous.
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Standards are now rock bottom.
Basically, if you fail spectacularly at your job, fans are suggesting that that man be promoted; yet in any other organisation (including football/sport), that man would be fired and would never be mentioned again.
Look at the flack that Moyes gets on this forum. Nobody....nobody has ever suggested that he should be brought in as a DoF, yet Ole, who is worse that Moyes, should get a promotion.
 
1. Can't we find some cushy non-job to move Ole to? Make him the Director of something or other. Club ambassador maybe? It would be nice if we could find a reasonably dignified way to move him on. After all, I don't blame him for taking a job we all should of known he couldn't do.

2. Poch is our man. He went into a disorganised rabble and gave them an identity, implemented a good style of football and nurtured promising young players. Exactly what we need right now. I feel like we should keep Ole until the end of season because is the F**king point in getting rid now so we can appoint a caretaker and then restart to whole saga. At the end of the season- if we're not in the CL- get rid of Ole and move heaven and earth to bring in Poch. End of.
 
JMack1234 said:
1. Can't we find some cushy non-job to move Ole to? Make him the Director of something or other. Club ambassador maybe? It would be nice if we could find a reasonably dignified way to move him on. After all, I don't blame him for taking a job we all should of known he couldn't do.

2. Poch is our man. He went into a disorganised rabble and gave them an identity, implemented a good style of football and nurtured promising young players. Exactly what we need right now. I feel like we should keep Ole until the end of season because is the F**king point in getting rid now so we can appoint a caretaker and then restart to whole saga. At the end of the season- if we're not in the CL- get rid of Ole and move heaven and earth to bring in Poch. End of.
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Ambassador is a good idea. Making him DOF is something I'll never understand as having a manager who has just been sacked overseeing his successor isn't a great idea. Plus I think the DOF role is more than just finding players to sign, getting those deals over the line is part of the job too I believe.
 
JMack1234 said:
1. Can't we find some cushy non-job to move Ole to? Make him the Director of something or other. Club ambassador maybe? It would be nice if we could find a reasonably dignified way to move him on. After all, I don't blame him for taking a job we all should of known he couldn't do.

2. Poch is our man. He went into a disorganised rabble and gave them an identity, implemented a good style of football and nurtured promising young players. Exactly what we need right now. I feel like we should keep Ole until the end of season because is the F**king point in getting rid now so we can appoint a caretaker and then restart to whole saga. At the end of the season- if we're not in the CL- get rid of Ole and move heaven and earth to bring in Poch. End of.
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If we're going to bring someone in it needs to be now, not the end of the season.

If we do it at the end of the season we risk the "Wanting to see who fits and who doesn't line" and end up with Lingard et al for another year. Also gives him the remainder of this year to start getting his ideas across rather than just the summer.
 


How reliable is Pedulla?

Would much rather this be the case than the bollocks from Neil Custis earlier about the club claiming Ole is currently under no pressure at the moment and they would be open to giving him a lot more time
 
Rolaholic said:


How reliable is Pedulla?

Would much rather this be the case than the bollocks from Neil Custis earlier about the club claiming Ole is currently under no pressure at the moment and they would be open to giving him a lot more time
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I'd be open to giving Ole a lot more time, but if the club are actually plotting to replace him in the summer, it's stupidity to wait until then when they could do it now.
 
shaky said:
I'd be open to giving Ole a lot more time, but if the club are actually plotting to replace him in the summer, it's stupidity to wait until then when they could do it now.
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Depends if the no-compete clause form his sacking is true or not.
 
Oles newest presser comments are worrying in the extreme.

Running players into the ground and causing injuries is now making them mentally more robust.

Ten days to go in a transfer window, key players missing for long periods, a stacked calendar with crucial CL qualification at stake and now isn’t the time to talk about recruitment?

We need

a) a manager with a vision, a plan, some semblance of a notion of how to manage player fitness and the squad in general.

b) a manager who has enough clout to make certain demands of those in power and get the players in that are needed to improve the quality of the first team.

He is actually doing harm to the clubs young players now which could, in turn, hurt their careers with repetitive muscle injuries and loss of mobility.

It needs to be stopped sooner rather than later. I can’t understand how listening to some of the things he says doesn’t make it obvious that he is doing more harm than good.
 
Rolaholic said:


How reliable is Pedulla?

Would much rather this be the case than the bollocks from Neil Custis earlier about the club claiming Ole is currently under no pressure at the moment and they would be open to giving him a lot more time
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I completely see Poch coming in with Ole moving upstairs as an intermediary between Woodward and the Manager. Wouldn't be the worst idea as Ole seems to be able to identify the right players moving forward, in terms of young, hungry and passionate.

But at the same time, I feel Ole has put all his eggs into one basket, with the staff he has built behind him, staying as manager and maybe wouldn't take well to the change.
 
Maluco said:
We need

a) a manager with a vision, a plan, some semblance of a notion of how to manage player fitness and the squad in general.

b) a manager who has enough clout to make certain demands of those in power and get the players in that are needed to improve the quality of the first team.
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This is absolutely essential. Not just clout though. While Woodward is calling the shots, the manager needs tact also. A repeat of Jose will get us nowhere.

Ideally the manager would be able to bring Woodward into line while making the latter believe he’s still in charge.

I really don't see Poch being this person; he seems too emotional. Allegri maybe? He had Berlusconi to contend with after all.
 
Revaulx said:
This is absolutely essential. Not just clout though. While Woodward is calling the shots, the manager needs tact also. A repeat of Jose will get us nowhere.

Ideally the manager would be able to bring Woodward into line while making the latter believe he’s still in charge.

I really don't see Poch being this person; he seems too emotional. Allegri maybe? He had Berlusconi to contend with after all.
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Yeah, you’re right, clout was a bad choice of word. I meant enough reputation to garner the respect required to make demands and have the board want to placate him.

You are right about tact too, it needs someone who can skillfully play that game. Poch would certainly do well to get certain guarantees before coming in, but you are right in saying that it could become emotional pretty quickly once the next window opens or initial promises aren’t kept.
 
I really think it is time to approach Poch for the summer and give him everything he wants.

Yes I realise he hasn't won anything yet but he has proved at Spurs he can coach players properly and improve them.

My only worry with him is his results in the big games at Spurs and apparently doesn't enjoy working with a DOF either.

I was hoping that a DOF would appoint our next manager but think we all know it will be that damn Toy Story puppet again.
 
Paul Hirst: If Solskjaer fails to deliver after a number of new signings are made, United will look to appoint a new manager. Mauricio Pochettino, who was sacked by Tottenham Hotspur in November, would feature on their shortlist, as could Gareth Southgate, who is presently in charge of England. Julian Nagelsmann of RB Leipzig and Paris Saint-Germain manager Thomas Tuchel are admired by members of the United hierarchy too.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ds-full-support-despite-woeful-form-lgb69mr6k

I seriously hope we stay away from Southgate. Nagelsmann would be my first choice.
 
Adnan said:
Paul Hirst: If Solskjaer fails to deliver after a number of new signings are made, United will look to appoint a new manager. Mauricio Pochettino, who was sacked by Tottenham Hotspur in November, would feature on their shortlist, as could Gareth Southgate, who is presently in charge of England. Julian Nagelsmann of RB Leipzig and Paris Saint-Germain manager Thomas Tuchel are admired by members of the United hierarchy too.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ds-full-support-despite-woeful-form-lgb69mr6k

I seriously hope we stay away from Southgate. Nagelsmann would be my first choice.
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Why are we waiting for him to fail. He’s already failed.
 
pocco said:
fecking hell imagine Southgate next. I feel sick just thinking about it. The meltdown on here would be epic though.
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Southgate would be a fool to give up the England gig. England has a good crop of players and United are a mess.
 
I don't like these full control on transfers talks, we did that with all our previous managers and they wasted the clubs money by making sideway moves just because they wanted their guys.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/next-manchester-united-manager-odds/
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Cannot believe a retread manager from the Dippers is on there as if that would ever happen but they don't even have Nuno listed. I know Poch is the obvious name and Nagelsman is sexy now that Klopp has made German managers the flavor of the month but what Nuno has done at Wolves in the last 3 years is seriously impressive. He is tactically astute, develops his players, demands high standards and is passionate about his work. I wouldn't look at anyone else unless he gave me a firm no.
 
Adnan said:
Paul Hirst: If Solskjaer fails to deliver after a number of new signings are made, United will look to appoint a new manager. Mauricio Pochettino, who was sacked by Tottenham Hotspur in November, would feature on their shortlist, as could Gareth Southgate, who is presently in charge of England. Julian Nagelsmann of RB Leipzig and Paris Saint-Germain manager Thomas Tuchel are admired by members of the United hierarchy too.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ds-full-support-despite-woeful-form-lgb69mr6k

I seriously hope we stay away from Southgate. Nagelsmann would be my first choice.
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Sounds like it is going to be a very long time until we are talking about Utd's next manager. The only way that Ole gets sacked is if this briefed rebuild with "his players" doesn't work out.

By that time you will probably find that the talented coaches like Poch, Nagelsmann, Ten Haag will have gone elsewhere.
 
Adnan said:
Paul Hirst: If Solskjaer fails to deliver after a number of new signings are made, United will look to appoint a new manager. Mauricio Pochettino, who was sacked by Tottenham Hotspur in November, would feature on their shortlist, as could Gareth Southgate, who is presently in charge of England. Julian Nagelsmann of RB Leipzig and Paris Saint-Germain manager Thomas Tuchel are admired by members of the United hierarchy too.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ds-full-support-despite-woeful-form-lgb69mr6k

I seriously hope we stay away from Southgate. Nagelsmann would be my first choice.
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Massive massive yes to this man, his work from Hoffenheim was nothing short of sensational even from a young age that he started from. He's continued his work at Leipzig and I think this season they will win the Bundesliga, his style of football is so modernized. Basically he's the next Jurgen Klopp, my fear is that Liverpool will take him even Klopp leaves and feck me If that happens we are fecked.....

Marco Rose another serious candidate too in my eyes too, would love to take a chance on him also
 
JPRouve said:
I don't like these full control on transfers talks, we did that with all our previous managers and they wasted the clubs money by making sideway moves just because they wanted their guys.
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This is the problem..
 
croadyman said:
Sounds like it is going to be a very long time until we are talking about Utd's next manager. The only way that Ole gets sacked is if this briefed rebuild with "his players" doesn't work out.

By that time you will probably find that the talented coaches like Poch, Nagelsmann, Ten Haag will have gone elsewhere.
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I think Joel or Avram are gonna make the decision for the board come the end of the season.
 
Pocb seems too simple, too safe....think United should really take a look around instead of just going for the biggest name available.
 
I just find this whole managerial merry-go-round so tiring now.

Surprised the revolving door hasn't flown off its hinges from the amount of use its had after SAF retired.
Managers,coaches,players,scouts have come and gone. Its really amazing how incompetent and negligent the club has got since the great man left.

Just mistake after mistake after mistake.

Still,I'm thankful that fans are still optimistic that the next one could be the guy to get us back on track because I'm feeling absolute pessimism towards the club of late.

And seriously Southgate ? Feck that.
 
Gandalf said:
Cannot believe a retread manager from the Dippers is on there as if that would ever happen but they don't even have Nuno listed. I know Poch is the obvious name and Nagelsman is sexy now that Klopp has made German managers the flavor of the month but what Nuno has done at Wolves in the last 3 years is seriously impressive. He is tactically astute, develops his players, demands high standards and is passionate about his work. I wouldn't look at anyone else unless he gave me a firm no.
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Would you have mentioned Nuno if he was doing the same in Germany? Let's be honest here, the reason you mention him is due to him managing in the EPL.

We should think outside the box and make a decision rather than use the same pigeon-holed approach that got us in the current mess. Nagelsmann is potentially a far better coach than Nuno and has a much higher ceiling imo. And if there's a choice between the two then it's a easy decision to go for Nagelsmann and it has nothing to do with Klopp.
 
Pscholes18 said:
Pocb seems too simple, too safe....think United should really take a look around instead of just going for the biggest name available.
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He fits the profile, builds teams, promotes youth, improves players and can get the best out of a group, in addition to being able to work on a budget.

We really need a big name, someone who can work the media, as they’re going to be all over with the pressure and focus the second whoever it is gets the job. It’s going to be horrendous for the new boss. Fans after the owners and the media in love with liverpool desperate for a United revival not to happen.
 
Nagelsmann is a dream but like Kloop doubt that he is willing to join Man Utd. After he win the Bundesliga this season many big club will be going after him.

For us, realistically Poch is a very good choice. He can rebuild with limited budget and play relatively attractive modern football.

At least, we will not be bored to death with Ole counter attacking football, excuses that need 6 transfer windows, blame players not good enough to beat Norwich and etc.
 
I need nagglesmann at the club because he can build his tactics depending on the players he has here. He is so damn flexible.

Pochettino is good but has his preferences & tactics that he doesn't change that will turn this in to just another rebuild.

Nagelsmann 352 is literally insane playing with a target man who brings a wider striker in to finish off chances - sounds familiar?

Nagglesmann is the key to the 352 because he defends with a 6-2-2 & attacks with a 2-3-5.

He will also play 442 as well so will change his tactics.
 
With the press speculating that our shortlist is Pochettino, Southgate, and Nagelsmann I'd love it if we signed Nagelsmann and backed him with the rebuild and not force our coaches on him.

Personally I don't want Pochettino or Southgate at United but If not Nagelsmann, try Marcelo Gallardo or Erik ten Hag.

But with Mr. Ed in charge, it'll be Pochettino or Southgate.
 
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Gandalf said:
Cannot believe a retread manager from the Dippers is on there as if that would ever happen but they don't even have Nuno listed. I know Poch is the obvious name and Nagelsman is sexy now that Klopp has made German managers the flavor of the month but what Nuno has done at Wolves in the last 3 years is seriously impressive. He is tactically astute, develops his players, demands high standards and is passionate about his work. I wouldn't look at anyone else unless he gave me a firm no.
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I hate the attitude of this fanbase sometimes, we deserve everything we get. Nagelsmann is "sexy" because he's an incredible manager despite his relative inexperience and is making waves everywhere he's gone, not because one of the world's best managers just happens to be German and has made all German managers "flavours of the month" now. No doubt you turned your nose up at Klopp the first time declaring him a hipster manager as well. Nagelsmann is and will be 10x the manager Nuno is I'm sorry to say and will be at one of the biggest clubs in the world before long, but of course we're too good for such a hipster manager, aren't we?
 
Bebestation said:
I need nagglesmann at the club because he can build his tactics depending on the players he has here. He is so damn flexible.

Pochettino is good but has his preferences & tactics that he doesn't change that will turn this in to just another rebuild.

Nagelsmann 352 is literally insane playing with a target man who brings a wider striker in to finish off chances - sounds familiar?

Nagglesmann is the key to the 352 because he defends with a 6-2-2 & attacks with a 2-3-5.

He will also play 442 as well so will change his tactics.
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Good post.

Nagelsmann is a very adaptive coach and the way he implements his system to adapt to the opposition is quite simply genius. But what I really like about him is that, what ever system he plays or against whomever the opposition, the objective is to take the game to the opposition.
 
Adnan said:
Good post.

Nagelsmann is a very adaptive coach and the way he implements his system to adapt to the opposition is quite simply genius. But what I really like about him is that, what ever system he plays or against whomever the opposition, the objective is to take the game to the opposition.
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Yeah and as you say he takes the game to the opposition by adapting his tactics and as simple as it sounds he does that by looking at the players he has and noticing their strengths and weaknesses.

I'd really like a manager here who has a collection of players who he rotates due to tactics & the opposition we play.

I think it would be a great way of building up a squad again in comparison to building just a first team fit for Pochettino.

I don't want to dismiss pochettino too much because he maybe the only option but I can see him getting rid of some of our 'decent' players due to them not fitting in with his tactics rather than having a manager who has tactics like Nagelsmann adapting towards the players available, his own favourites and his opposition.
 
Bebestation said:
Yeah and as you say he takes the game to the opposition by adapting his tactics and as simple as it sounds he does that by looking at the players he has and noticing their strengths and weaknesses.

I'd really like a manager here who has a collection of players who he rotates due to tactics & the opposition we play.

I think it would be a great way of building up a squad again in comparison to building just a first team fit for Pochettino.

I don't want to dismiss pochettino too much because he maybe the only option but I can see him getting rid of some of our 'decent' players due to them not fitting in with his tactics rather than having a manager who has tactics like Nagelsmann adapting towards the players available, his own favourites and his opposition.
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If we as a club look at the next appointment from a long-term perspective to get us back on track, then Nagelsmann is the clear standout candidate imo. Alot of things would align regard the structure of the football side if he was appointed too. I'm just happy to read that there's people on the board at the club who value the potential of Nagelsmann and are keeping a close eye on his career.
 
It's very doubtful that Nagelsmann will join Man Utd. Ed will sell him Adult Disneyland dream bullshit again.

Ed has no plan or vision. All the top managers can't take him seriously.
 
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