Danny Alexander gone. Lost by 10,000 votes. Mug.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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It looks like Nick Clegg is the only Lib Dem who served in the cabinet to have held on to his seat.
What a slippery bastard.
What a slippery bastard.
Benefits, certainly, NHS not so much.
What is amazing for me is the complete lack of choice across major democracies. Almost every major democracy, the US, UK, India, there is a shocking lack of choice. This lack of choice proved fatal for us in India which saw that despicable thug becoming PM, but there's a complete lack of faith in mainstream social democratic parties across the major democracies. You would think that those on the left would vote or mainstream social democratic parties but it's not happening.
How did this happen? Why are the public so content with the Tories?
People are idiots, rich people are influential.
I was hoping if there was hung parliament it could mean the end of FPTP but it's much less likely if the Tories get a majority.
That is scary. It boggles the mind how they can get away with kicking the working class again and again and still get elected.
Galloway loses by 11,000 in Bradford.
Sad. The state has to have a social net. It's almost Dickensian the times we live in.
There's still potential for chaos, even if they do get a majority. All it would take it for a small group of Tory MPs to cross the house to UKIP over the course of the next Parliament and their majority would be gone.
A failed government and an early election will be much more likely to open the FPTP debate than a hung parliament/coalition government that lasts the course.
People are idiots.
Odds on Milliband to resign before noon?
Because apparently, if you're working class and vote labour, you lack 'ambition'.
These results are really depressing. And UKIP doing so well in so many constituencies really makes me wonder if we overestimate the people of this country.
We have FPTP as well, I agree, it needs to be reformed. Last year, I was begging friends and family to not vote for the BJP (ruling party in India, more extreme than the Tea Party in the US, supported by their fascist parental organization, the RSS) but they always talked about how not voting for one of the two main parties is a wasted vote. What's the point of a multi-party system then?
Not much point dragging it out.
Tonight has really made me understand how New Labour began after 1992. Near term future of the left is pretty dire.
I predict that Nicky Morgan will be promoted to higher office before long.
That's overly simplified representation, what with the SNP's gains and UKIP increasing its vote share in the north of England.
That's overly simplified representation, what with the SNP's gains and UKIP increasing its vote share in the north of England.
I confess, I thought along similar lines after the election last year but there's always a reason. Makes we wonder if leftist thought needs repackaging.
The trouble for Labour is that they need to move to the right on economics to win back seats in South of England and move to the right on social policy (specifically on matters like immigration) to win back seats in the North of England, and I don't think that this is going to be ideologically possible.
The left hasn't disappeared, they've just rejected the current incarnations of Labour and the Lib Dems. Both those two parties shot themselves in the foot with their leadership choices.
It'll be interesting to see how attitudes to immigration will change amongst the top political parties. If the UKIP voting in the north is anything to go by, traditionally working class constituencies are turning more and more towards right-wing immigration policies. Will Labour have to go in the same direction to win their votes back?
It'll be interesting to see how attitudes to immigration will change amongst the top political parties. If the UKIP voting in the north is anything to go by, traditionally working class constituencies are turning more and more towards right-wing immigration policies. Will Labour have to go in the same direction to win their votes back?
Have I missed Farage's result?
Not been announced yet.
So, let me just get this right (and I'm not sure if I am)....despite the Torries doing better then the last election and probably being able to form a (slight) majority government, they'll actually be worse off in trying to pass legislation because they'll only have a majority of about 2/3 seats, compared to the majority of 70 odd they had after having to form a coalition last time? A coalition they had to form because they hadn't won enough seats, the exact same seats they've now actually won this time?
Is that right? If so, I think its fair to say our political system is slightly mental.
Is that right? If so, I think its fair to say our political system is slightly mental.
Ok cheers, my local one was due allegedly at 5am but no result as yet, but then again, knowing the people where i live it probably involves teaching them how to count first.
Prediction is 1 seat short right now.
I can go one better...
The SNP have won around 1.5million votes tonight and have won 58 seats, where as Ukip have won around 4million votes and have won 1 seat.
Oh you have it relatively nice with the UKIP. We, on the other hand, we have minorities being hounded, superstitious nonsense getting state sanction, homosexuality being "against Indian culture" which is a lie, land literally being grabbed by the state in pursuit of the "greater good", I could go on.
Back to the topic though, I completely agree. In the modern world, being satisfied is a bad word, we always "want more", it's a rat race. I'm relatively well off, I do well for myself but when it comes to economics, I'm supposed to vote for neo-liberalism because that will help me "grow". Being satisfied with what I have and voting for policies that raise living standards for everybody, that is an insult to the point where it could actually become a problem with my boss! This logic in the consulting business where you're supposed to use your brain.
Voting for the left is seen as a negative vote. Part of the reason is how the media everywhere is bought by big business so they know what message to give out to keep the masses in their place, but somewhere, there is a problem.
I think the scariest thing about that is 4 million people have actually voted for UKIP
4m UKIP voters. Depressing.
Yup, and remember how much trouble they had with their right wing last term even with the healthy majority. I fear a much more right wing government coming.
Bingo.
The real 'idiots' here aren't the people who voted conservative, it's those like the Labour party themselves and those obviously staunch supporters who clearly aren't in touch. It's been obvious since Ukip got all those protest votes in the locals that the country were fed up, and what do we get? A labour party not seeing the opportunity to actually change and grab on to that general feeling among uk voters and do something different.
I'm not am idiot for being working class and voting Tory. I did it because this Labour mob just don't look fit to run this country. If anything that makes me far less an idiot than those voting Labour just because they are Labour and the working class are supposed to.
If they replace him they will.
Very. I don't get how the major two just overlooked the ground they made last time and brushed it off as nothing. Surely people need to see there's real problems now?
Do you think Labour would have done better or worse if they'd taken a harder line on immigration? I'm guessing they would have lost a lot of their core support from the unions but picked up a few of the UKIP protest votes in return. Whoever takes over from Milliband is gonna have a tough time deciding what tack to take.
People are idiots and the lowest idiots about buy into UKIPs bullshit, the points staands though, how can a party that get 2.5 million votes less get 57 more seats?I think the scariest thing about that is 4 million people have actually voted for UKIP
Right, that's me done for the night. Was aiming to stay until Balls but that's another hour and a half apparently. What an awful night it is that I'm now faintly hoping they only get 320. England... Might try and learn Norwegian.
The Tories have just held off Labour in Croydon Central by 165 votes.
I always thought the wrong milliband was elected to lead labour.