Yeah, the point about votes and seats is ridiculous.
UK General Election 2015 | Conservatives win with an overall majority
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Yeah, the point about votes and seats is ridiculous.
Labour are back in power in my constituency. Rupa Huq won by around 280 votes 
must be one of the closest campaigns yet?
I didn't vote for a number of reasons, but I'm glad that I'll be somewhat more represented than the Tories offered me. Well, as much as any lying politician can represent someone anyway.
must be one of the closest campaigns yet?I didn't vote for a number of reasons, but I'm glad that I'll be somewhat more represented than the Tories offered me. Well, as much as any lying politician can represent someone anyway.
Just have to hope Farage doesn't win his seat, then sticks to his promise of stepping down.
Just turned it on. Who's car do they keep showing?
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Pretty gutted by the way things have gone.
Right, the early receptionist will be here in a minute so i'd better put the laptop away and get ready to go home.
Shocker of a night, but enjoyable with you lot.
Shocker of a night, but enjoyable with you lot.
Cameron's.
Immigration? That depends. Milliband is the only one who one time on one of those tv debates mentioned the true issues with immigration, but then never said it again. I like to believe people would be happy with a fair and organised immigration system, to see something actually being done to tackle the mess Labour started. Instead all we get told is immigration is great for the economy and is not the reason why schools are crowded and the nhs is struggling. Tell that to the parents struggling for places this year and the grass route nhs workers.
I really do think, and I might be hoping for too much here, that is someone stood up for fair immigration across the board, accepted there are problems and made a real visual effort to fix them, the like of Ukip would fall back into the insignificance they deserve.
I think it may not only be about leadership choices but the behaviour of parties on the left. If you look at the state of the left worldwide, it's dire. Even in Latin America, leftist parties are beginning to lose their sheen. If one ignores political parties for a minute, how many truly socialist candidates a) stand for election and b) win an election? Local, provincial or general election?
So have the SNP driven the English into the arms of the Conservatives? Very surprising results so radically different from all the poll leading up to Election Day.
I wish there was no exit polls/forecasts and it just came down to the wire Eurovision contest-esque.
IMO that's played a massive part but I look at it as English ignorance has driven them into the arms of the Tories more than anything else.
The exit polls, unless they're really close, do somewhat ruin the whole thing
I think it'd be far better for the major parties to actually listen and do something about it.
I tend to believe the true 'idiots' here are the ones who brush off all Ukip voters. Plenty have real issues and concerns that are going to go away, even when Farage fecks off.
If more people had voted Labour in England, then they would have done a deal with SNP (despite what Ed said) and formed a government. Far to easy to just blame Scotland. They haven't voted for any Torries.
Lib Dems lost my seat to the Conservatives, helped by all the students abandoning them for the green party and now ending up with the party they hate most of all. Many tears on my Facebook.
There were always going to be more Tory voters who kept quiet because of the shit that comes their way, especially among young people. I know my line of work the Tories staying in power is ideal.
There were always going to be more Tory voters who kept quiet because of the shit that comes their way, especially among young people. I know my line of work the Tories staying in power is ideal.
Yeah I thought so too.
Agreed.
Ignorance?
I think David was more charismatic and slightly better looking.
I think David was more charismatic and slightly better looking.
It is important unfortunately. Ed is awkward and geeky looking.
Absolutely.
I think it's pretty clear that a fair number of voters down south have shifted towards Tory because of the bullshit scaremongering about Jocks running the country. They got played perfectly by the Tories and hell mend them.
I have a question, if you don't mind. While I agree with the point that immigration controls need to be put in place so that there is less pressure on the system, why do you think it's become such an emotive issue? I think all parties agree there should be controls, I might be wrong. Just that as an outsider looking at this election, for me the basic point of UKIP is a single point agenda, immigration. Why do you think that's happened?
I don't think I've ever seen any UKIP voter come across as anything other then an 'idiot', or manage to put across any reasonable or rational argument as to why they're voting UKIP apart from 'They're taking our jobs!' etc etc And that includes Farage. He was a joke in every debate.
Christ the way people have carried on in the public domain, Facebook etc as it's as if they support a bloody football team.
Spot on.
So life goes on just about exactly the same as it was before.
Or before when we had Labour
Or before then when we had the Conservatives.
Yeah I'm one of those 'didn't vote because it's pointless people'.
Sorry.
Or before when we had Labour
Or before then when we had the Conservatives.
Yeah I'm one of those 'didn't vote because it's pointless people'.
Sorry.
His debating was like a really bad parody.
Why do you think the NHS is struggling? Because of the strain foreigners are putting it under.
What do you think of the current education service? It's blighted by those pesky foreigners.
What's your opinion on the EU? Too many Europeans are allowed in it.
I think it's ignorant to blame that tbh. If people want to throw around words like 'idiots' and 'ignorance' to describe people voting Tory, based on little more than guess work, then you are going to come across ignorant yourself.
I said yesterday afternoon on here that loads of people I know have switched simply because most of us are better off in various ways under the tories and don't trust Labour at all. Snp and all that will have had an effect, that is pretty clear, but to do the classic politics thing of overlooking the real issues to just tar people with one aspect is, well, ignorant.
Well then I'm not sure how many you know or have spoken to, but it's a real miatake to just tar everyone with the same brush. The sort of mistake that leads to them getting more and more votes, rather than letting them die out as they should.
It was exactly that
I was actually interested to see what he had to say, to see if there was actually any substance behind all the bullshit, but there just wasn't. Like you say, he was just a complete parody. He turned every single question into 'well its the foreigners fault obviously!'. He also seemed to completely zone out of anything that he couldn't bring back to his 'blame the foreigners' agenda. And yet, so many people seem to have fallen for it.
At least Esther McVey can f off now.
Well there's been plenty of coverage over the past 6 months, with plenty of interviews with all sorts of voters, and as I say, every UKIP voter has come across as an idiot. And quite frankly, their leader has come across as the biggest idiot of them all.
It might be harsh to tar everyone with the same brush, but as I say, I haven't seen one person come up with any sort of reasonable argument as to why they're voting UKIP.
Full recount for Ed Balls constituency
The minute the Scottish Independence referendum failed and Cameron agreed to hand them greater autonomy within the UK political fold you could see it was the death knell for Labour north of the border and meant that the only way Labour could ever hope to oust the Tories was for the likes of UKIP to steal a percentage of the Tory vote in marginal seats which may just have given them enough to form a coalition with Cleggy. Cameron played a blinder by neutering the Lib Dems whilst in coalition with them, appeasing Farage's mob with a Euro referendum and scaring enough UKIP and Labour supporters into believing the SNP would have the whip hand in a LabSNP coalition which when you look at Sturgeon and Milliband is not too hard to imagine.
Labour need a new leader who will push them back to their core values and see them standing up for the working man again or we are unfortunately doomed to many more Tory governments after this one.
I am not sure that I agree. I didn't buy the SNP rhetoric that they were wanting to progress in Westminster rather than disrupt. The SNP primarily want independence and the best way to do that is to create further alienation for the Scottish electorate from Westminster. Stergeon was rumoured to have admitted that the best outcome for them was a Con win because of the alienating effect that would have on Scotland. I think that many of the English voters have made the choice that will keep the country stable in the short term.
It is not the way I have voted as I do not buy into the received wisdom on the economy but I didn't buy what the SNP were selling. That isn't because of the negative campaign by the Cons, it is more that I don't believe anything that politicians say, especially a party like the SNP that has one very focused aim.
feck shy tories and feck image politics. The British electorate are odious.
Interesting.
I don't know what's more depressing, the Tories back in Government or 4 million votes for UKIP.