UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%
  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%

  • Total voters
    690
  • Poll closed .
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You gave the impression that, because of your disability, you were barely able to support yourself, I didn't realise that you are actually loaded.

Here is your answer:



We have a lot a high net worth clients, who, believe it or not, give a lot of money to charity (yes, rich people are actually surprisingly generous, who knew). The partners also give substantial amounts to charity. In fact, every single bill that goes out of the office has a small amount added on which goes to a charitable trust set up by the practice which the partners match pound for pound.

If you have spare cash, you are better off giving it to charities who are more likely to spend it on actually helping people who really need it, rather than the Government wasting huge chunks of it on crap.
You do know that only 60% of money given to charities actually makes it to the cause they are collecting for? If you really want to help provide food or time directly to food banks or soup kitchens or donate your time to some other cause.
 
Who is assuming that you don't? You are the one who said you wanted to pay more tax - if you haven't got the money how do you pay more tax - what is this obnoxious attitude from Corbyn supporters?

How is this at all hard to understand? I want EVERYONE who can, to pay more tax. The only reason I don't have money left over is because I've made the choice to use it for charitable donations. I have no idea if the charity I'm choosing is the best use of that money. I'm not in a good position to choose where my money gets distributed. The government is.

I'm being obnoxious because I've had to deal with people calling me bitter for being disabled and using my personal circumstances against me in a deceptive way along with a a frankly frustrating lack of comprehension combined with disingenuous arguments.
 
How is this at all hard to understand? I want EVERYONE who can, to pay more tax. The only reason I don't have money left over is because I've made the choice to use it for charitable donations. I have no idea if the charity I'm choosing is the best use of that money. I'm not in a good position to choose where my money gets distributed. The government is.

I'm being obnoxious because I've had to deal with people calling me bitter for being disabled and using my personal circumstances against me in a deceptive way along with a a frankly frustrating lack of comprehension combined with disingenuous arguments.

I understand where you're coming from but others are saying the opposite because they don't trust the government to use the money properly.
 
Sometimes this place is just lovely. It proves that politics really is the best thing to make two people, who can share the same opinions on 99% of things, fall out with each other.

Anyway; feck yez cause I'm voting SNP to really stick it to all you English cnuts. Not really, I'm English. Well, half my family are. Is that actually an excuse? It's a bit like a yank saying he's Irish because his grandma came from Mayo, and that's why he gets to drink Guinness and wear an offensive hat in St Patty's Day. No Frank, you're not Irish. You're a pot bellied tosser from Brooklyn. And it's Paddy, not Patty, you fecking spoon.
 
I understand where you're coming from but others are saying the opposite because they don't trust the government to use the money properly.

If you want to get into the whole tea party "government bad" mindset that has plagued the USA be my guest.

I don't know why you would automatically trust charities more though.
 


Is there just no standards to campaigning any more? This is Trump level, just missing out on a recession and 0.1% in the last 6 months is "growing strongly" according to Hancock.

You can’t support the NHS without a strong economy.
Well that explains why the Tories haven't been supporting the NHS then!
 
If you want to get into the whole tea party "government bad" mindset that has plagued the USA be my guest.

I don't know why you would automatically trust charities more though.

I didn't say I did, all I said was some people believe government uses the money better than charities and others vice versa.
 
Oh, serious time. I'm not wealthy (surprise surprise) but my parents are. In probably the next 15 or so years my mum, and the next 2-3 for my dad, I'll inherit two houses. That money would greatly change my family's lives.

And do you know what? The Labour policy sounds absolutely fine to me. It's drastic, yes, and it's a sad position for our country to be after years of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, but not only will my family still be safe after this policy but the lives of thousands of others less fortunate will be as well. If that sounds unappetising to some people then I'm sorry but I really don't give a flying shit on a stick.
 
You do know that only 60% of money given to charities actually makes it to the cause they are collecting for? If you really want to help provide food or time directly to food banks or soup kitchens or donate your time to some other cause.

This nonsense needs to die in a ditch.
 
This makes zero sense, if you're happy paying more taxes then donate the amount you're willing to pay more to a charity you deem most in need of it.

Instead of the government deciding where your money goes you get to decide yourself.
This view is so short sighted.
 
The latest Lib Dem success story:

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Not only was this left as a sneaky typo so she could claim it was a mistake when called up on it (saying it should state "ban landmines in South Africa, THAT was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize) but it's also a lie because another group won it for that work.

Labour should just start making posters with dead kids on it and saying "Lib Dems and Tories are responsible for this"...actually that wouldn't be too far from the truth. Maybe something a little lighter, like shock jock politics. Boris in a chicken costume or something dumb like that. It doesn't really say anything but it's funny innit. And Bill "eight pints luv" Billson can understand it without his little brain getting all hot and sore.
 
If you want to get into the whole tea party "government bad" mindset that has plagued the USA be my guest.

I don't know why you would automatically trust charities more though.

There are 150,000+ registered charities in the UK. That alone is a problem.

That's one charity for every 400 people in the UK!
 
Where does all this certainty that the tories would do better with the economy come from anyway? By the record of the past decade they certainly haven't done much for the economy that affects the vast majority of Britains. Can anyone here really say she/he is financially better off today than in 2010 because of their policies?

And most recently they've sacrificed economic growth to bring about the state of affairs we are in now. Boris himself has never run anything, let alone successfully...
 
Where does all this certainty that the tories would do better with the economy come from anyway? By the record of the past decade they certainly haven't done much for the economy that affects the vast majority of Britains. Can anyone here really say she/he is financially better off today than in 2010 because of their policies?

And most recently they've sacrificed economic growth to bring about the state of affairs we are in now. Boris himself has never run anything, let alone successfully...

One of the big mistakes Labour made post 2010 was allowing the myth they crashed the economy to persist. Miliband didn’t do nearly enough (in fact if memory serves he allowed it to flourish by admitting Labour spent too much).

Tories have been in power 28 of the last 40 years yet Labour are to blame for all the country’s ills apparently.
 
Where does all this certainty that the tories would do better with the economy come from anyway? By the record of the past decade they certainly haven't done much for the economy that affects the vast majority of Britains. Can anyone here really say she/he is financially better off today than in 2010 because of their policies?

And most recently they've sacrificed economic growth to bring about the state of affairs we are in now. Boris himself has never run anything, let alone successfully...
Tories are doing everything right, it’s the immigrants that’s the problem in the minds of these people after years of successful propaganda.
 


It's going to work a lot better than anything Theresa may did... And I suspect right there you see most of his answers in the leaders debate.

It's pure Cummings... Reduce issues down to simple slogans

I think it's going to work well for him with people not particularly engaged with politics... Facebook and the like

It's a lot better than anything may did and although any campaign with Boris could explode in a scandle at any time I don't think they are going to implode in the way may did
 
On what basis?

We need protecting from Corbyn's education, housing, health, environmental protection and workers rights for all radical brand of communism. Doubly so as slightly increased government spending will stimulate the economy and create jobs even for non-mrmbers of the Bullingdon Dining Club and we can't have any of that extremist nonsense from the plebs.
 
It's going to work a lot better than anything Theresa may did... And I suspect right there you see most of his answers in the leaders debate.

It's pure Cummings... Reduce issues down to simple slogans

I think it's going to work well for him with people not particularly engaged with politics... Facebook and the like

It's a lot better than anything may did and although any campaign with Boris could explode in a scandle at any time I don't think they are going to implode in the way may did

People have already decided who they are voting for.

I'm just laughing at how awful the video is.

Best part surely is the Asian guy walking by who gets a warm greeting and a pat on the back. So for anyone not paying attention... Tories = not racist.

I feel sorry for comedy writers. You can't even parody that shit.
 
One of the big mistakes Labour made post 2010 was allowing the myth they crashed the economy to persist. Miliband didn’t do nearly enough (in fact if memory serves he allowed it to flourish by admitting Labour spent too much).

Tories have been in power 28 of the last 40 years yet Labour are to blame for all the country’s ills apparently.
Well in fairness some labour probably think the 12 years they were in power... Or certainly the 10 years under Blair were the worst thing ever to happen to the country so they hardly do anything to dispell that narrative
 
This view is so short sighted.

Why? We're not going to get charged more tax in the next month or so, so why not donate that money you'd be happy to pay on more taxes to a charity of your choice? If income tax is increased in the future, you can then stop giving the excess to a charity as you're now paying the income tax you wanted to previously.
 
Well in fairness some labour probably think the 12 years they were in power... Or certainly the 10 years under Blair were the worst thing ever to happen to the country so they hardly do anything to dispell that narrative

Were you even born during the Blair era?
 
People have already decided who they are voting for.

I'm just laughing at how awful the video is.

Best part surely is the Asian guy walking by who gets a warm greeting and a pat on the back. So for anyone not paying attention... Tories = not racist.

I feel sorry for comedy writers. You can't even parody that shit.
Yeah and in fairness I took it as tongue in cheek and intended to get those comments... Just like stopping in front of the 20000 police officers sign... It's designed to get shares and comments and seems to be pitched almost as a David Brent take on political campaigning... Sadly I think it's pitched about right in terms of the gerronwithit vote so deliberately bad I think and as much as I dispare that politics is coming to this it is as I say a lot better than anything from the Theresa may campaign
The conservatives really don't need to make huge gains in the polls... They need not to have a disaster of a campaign like may did

I don't rule out Boris saying something off the charts offensive in the debates... But if he can stick to jumbling a few long words into a semi coherent insult aimed at Corbyn then he's going to walk it... And this type of advert based around the jolly Boris persona will be enough considering he's up against the least popular opposition leader ever
 
Channel 4 just reported he’ll be replaced a another candidate. Hell of an own goal by Lib Dem’s if they do this.

And yet the narrative will still be peddled that it’s only Corbyn’s intransigence that has impeded an electoral pact with the Lib Dems.
 
People have already decided who they are voting for.

I'm just laughing at how awful the video is.

Best part surely is the Asian guy walking by who gets a warm greeting and a pat on the back. So for anyone not paying attention... Tories = not racist.

I feel sorry for comedy writers. You can't even parody that shit.
Sure you can, you simply run the back end of the clip and then have Boris replaced with a fake Boris who stands back to camera and stumbles over genuine questions somebody off screen asks:

“20000 new police officers? Will you also replace the 21000 that we previously axed then boss?”

Boris flounders etc etc
 
May I suggest that not a single one of any of you lots prejudiced preconceived ideas about me is correct.

Just because I abhor socialism in all its forms, doesn't make me a right wing, Brexit Nazi, in fact you couldn't possibly be further from the truth.

feck knows who passionate remain voters are supposed to vote for to stop this fecking mess. The lLibdems are as much a bunch of clueless clowns as any of the rest of them.

Can't we bring back John Major, his greyness was somehow comforting.
 
May I suggest that not a single one of any of you lots prejudiced preconceived ideas about me is correct.

Just because I abhor socialism in all its forms, doesn't make me a right wing, Brexit Nazi, in fact you couldn't possibly be further from the truth.

feck knows who passionate remain voters are supposed to vote for to stop this fecking mess. The lLibdems are as much a bunch of clueless clowns as any of the rest of them.

Can't we bring back John Major, his greyness was somehow comforting.

Being For removing Austerity policies that should never have been put in place because of the people who did not cause the Economic crisis in the first place is Not Socialism.
 
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