UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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A few left wing academics? Great stuff
Never mind the countless others from industry and finance who are terrified of a far left Labour government.
Their motivations being?.... In both instances.
I think her superiors should take a look, not so much for her perceived bias but because of this: whether or not the 'scoop' benefits of her closeness to the PM & the Conservative camp outweigh the necessary demands of impartiality and democracy. In short - and I may be wrong - I think she's not so much politically biased but, rather, her career benefits by her relationship with the current Prime Minister and government; and, of course, the BBC benefits from the fresh & exclusive news coming directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Swinson won't be happy
Unsurprisingly Evening Standard endorse Boris:
Powerful video.
Questions;
- What is so dangerous? I mean truly dangerous. No policy is going to cripple the nation in a single term. They’ve got some nutty ideas, but they won’t be able to implement them all to the full extent.
- Why on earth do you think that not appointing a Left leaning party will swing people to the centre? The Conservative is pulling far right. There is very little middle to contest anymore.
Yeah I hear you... You think we should make her wear a dunce cap for a year?
The correlation between the Conservatives & the Brexit Party pretty much explains why Johnson is going to win tomorrow.
I was straining to be fair-minded about her, my liege. F*ck it though - she's a bloody catastrophe. And biased.
What makes you say that? Genuinely interested.
Well done, Irvine.
Casting your vote doesn’t need to make you feel warm iand fuzzy nside. Not using your vote is foolish.
No, I'm not saying it's entirely down to him. Again, the second Corbyn is criticised it's like the red mist comes down and people can't get that point. But I am saying they are clearly failing and the whole party needs a rethink. I think the fact people push so hard back against this point, yet seem to be happy to watch Labour lose yet another election for the same old reasons without questioning why there's no change is bizarre.
As for Johnson, what's the point in criticising him? Most of us already hate him anyway, and we all know he's a bumbling fool, but he's still likely to win.
So you actually think Boris will extend if he gets a majority? And if you do you think it's fine to appoint a one policy prime minister and for them not to deliver that policy?
How long do you think an EU trade deal will take? A US trade deal? How do you think we'll handle the incoming recession without a trade deal with our main trading partner?
There are no fence sitting Tories left they've been purged for those on the extreme right. When you have ex tory prime ministers coming out against voting Tory do you think not feel like you perhaps don't know what you're talking about?
The thing you don't get is we are questioning it, and will definitely question it after the election. No one is happy to see Labour lose. I'd bet good money that Corbyn won't remain as leader if we lose this one. Right now we trying to win the election though. What's the point in complaining about Corbyn now and what would that achieve aside from reinforcing bullshit narratives?
It's not about defending Corbyn as such. As I said, I have my reservations with him which are numerous, I voted Green in 2015 and 2017. But there seems to be this idea amongst those who aren't convinced by him that a different leader would somehow turn things around for Labour, and I'm not sure that's the case. The alternatives presented by people who don't think Corbyn's doing a good enough job are often soft-left centrists like Yvette Cooper or Jess Phillips, the kind of politicians the public are tired of. Not only that, but the suggestions are often figures who would be absolutely eviscerated by the press in the same way Miliband was. Miliband followed all of their rules, said all the right things by bending to the casual right-wingers on immigration, and was still hounded into a terrible result in 2015. The reason people defend Corbyn so much is because a) he's the first Labour leader in a generation whose values mostly match his manifesto, b) the first Labour leader in a generation who wouldn't suit a blue or yellow tie. The day Corbyn goes is the day Labour's time as a left-wing party is over.
I'm actually speechless, the chief political editor of the BBC illegally revealing something which could have a serious impact on how or if people vote tomorrow. The worst of it is that there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it.
The Tories will win, she will keep her job because she's protecting them and there will be no investigation because feck. YOU.
'If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.'
(Malcolm X)
(Malcolm X)
Labour voters say Tory voters are evil because they don't care about the poor. Perhaps they don't, but its not because they hate the poor, it's because they are self serving.
Corbyn and his allies genuinely hate their opponents, and it's incredibly dangerous to give power to somebody like that.
They've had to tone it down now they're in the public eye but he and McDonnell still firmly believe in their 70s anti-establishment view with state control and using whatever means necessary to silence opponents. I lived in China for a long time and the way he talks is very much reminiscent of Hu Jintao/Xi Jinping and an all knowing government pitting 'the people' against a perceived enemy. If it was just him it wouldn't be so bad, but he has a far more extreme element in Momentum pulling the strings who haven't toned it down at all. Even if it was only one term, I don't want us to even begin down that road.
Conservatives are pulling further right because Labour are pulling further left, and vice versa. So are their voters. If a more moderate Labour leadership steps in the Tories will reciprocate because voters will gravitate towards it. It's exactly what happened in the 90s.
All very strange. Nobody seems to care that she's broken the rules here. Can't find any news on it. Weird!
What a legend.
It's not just about Corbyn though is it? It's the whole party. And why not talk about it? Nothing is on hold whilst we do.
As above. And therein lies the problem. The next leader will face all the same shit just as the last one did and Corbyn is now. I see nothing wrong in looking at what's happening whilst it is and thinking they need a change of strategy to combat it.
But yeah, no point in going on about it anymore, especially to people who won't/don't want to listen. I'm still going in and voting them and I've managed to convince a few people around me to too, so all we can do is keep fingers crossed.
And when you have the exact same thing coming from Labour ex-PMs? Time to realise they're both shite and you're only voting for the lesser of two evils.
Always amazing how tories know exactly how labour could do better but never work towards making their own government better or holding it to account for 9 wasted years.
Oh and I say that as someone who never has nor will vote Labour.
Oh and I say that as someone who never has nor will vote Labour.
6/1 - 1% difference in last election - it's all to play for there as there's not much to be squeezed from the Conservatives, it will only happen if enough Labour swing to the Tories and if the Independent candidate doesn't do so well. Let's see.
Priorities. Now is not the time for navel gazing. There will be a leadership election if Corbyn loses and I'm sure it will all get discussed then.
And what the hell do you think Johnson's - and his Party's - rhetoric is all about? In their case, the (supposed) enemy is the foreigner, the non-white person, the non-heterosexual person etc etc. I guess, then, that the only problem comes from Corbyn & co targetting people like you, yours, or the person you aspire to be...
I see Corbyn as the greater danger and so do the financial markets.
We shall see mate. And as I said, keep fingers crossed for tomorrow and a big youth turnout.
And if we've learnt anything over the past 12 years it's that the financial markets are
a) always right
b)not greedy
c) have the needs of the average person in mind
That’s a fair point! I would bet a lot of people are in my category. It’s hard not to be a realist though. As I say with PR system Iwould 100% gone with liberals.
I don’t think brexit will be as bad as what your saying, and I don’t think it will be as bad as debating brexit for another couple of years. We need stability and we need to move on.
they all have higher taxes. I’m not actually against a lot of the singular policies. If labour had come out and said we arenatiaonlising railways I would have accepted and rationalised. Nationalising the railways in itself would be a huge undertaking especially if you want to make them work!
Times that by about 20 and you get to what they want to do. Think of the resource needed, It would be chaos!!
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