UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%
  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%
  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%

  • Total voters
    690
  • Poll closed .
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I don't think many will make that leap because after Brexit there's another 5 years of the Tories and they can't stomach that. Voting BXP on the other hand, they can do.

I've one bet on Labour winning Ashfield and one with Guido on here for the same, that's it.

I've used any money I might have otherwise bet to donate to various anti-Tory organisations. Its better use there than with the bookies.
Still think that's five years of Tories versus eternity of sunlit uplands.
Good luck with the canvassing. It takes some balls to go door to door.
 
That’s a fair point! I would bet a lot of people are in my category. It’s hard not to be a realist though. As I say with PR system Iwould 100% gone with liberals.

I don’t think brexit will be as bad as what your saying, and I don’t think it will be as bad as debating brexit for another couple of years. We need stability and we need to move on.

The 3 different Tory prime ministers we've had in the last 5 years have really bought us great stability.

I really don't get this ongoing theme of "we really need the Tories so they can clean up all the messes they've created since they've been in power".
 
Re: Laura K:
https://www.markpack.org.uk/131265/...-and-that-covers-social-media-monitoring-too/
66A Prohibition on publication of exit polls

(1) No person shall, in the case of an election to which this section applies, publish before the poll is closed–

(a) any statement relating to the way in which voters have voted at the election where that statement is (or might reasonably be taken to be) based on information given by voters after they have voted, or
(b) any forecast as to the result of the election which is (or might reasonably be taken to be) based on information so given.

(2) This section applies to–

(a) any parliamentary election; and
(b) any local government election in England or Wales.

(3) If a person acts in contravention of subsection (1) above, he shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months.

(4) In this section–

“forecast” includes estimate;

“publish” means make available to the public at large, or any section of the public, in whatever form and by whatever means;

and any reference to the result of an election is a reference to the result of the election either as a whole or so far as any particular candidate or candidates at the election is or are concerned.


There's no nuances here, what she did was both illegal and extremely unethical.
 
they all have higher taxes. I’m not actually against a lot of the singular policies. If labour had come out and said we arenatiaonlising railways I would have accepted and rationalised. Nationalising the railways in itself would be a huge undertaking especially if you want to make them work!
Times that by about 20 and you get to what they want to do. Think of the resource needed, It would be chaos!!

Currently Rail Company profits are circa £250m a year, this can all be in your pocket if you vote Labour. You'd be a mutli millionare. Vote Labour.
 
I am not as aware of the UK politics as I am of US politics, but this campaign led by 88% lies Conservatives look so much worse than the Repubs here in 2016 general and 2018 midterm elections? I expect some new level sh*t from Repubs here for the 2020 elections.
 
I've been following this bloke on Twitter, Dr Moderate, really interesting analysis of the polls, he think's the Conservatives are just up 3% and it's going to be a hung Parliament.

 
Kay Burley said:
First they came for the journalists and we did nothing.
That's one of the most egregious things I've ever read.
 
I have been extremely pessimistic from the moment Boris became PM, but this is seems to be a solid point for optimism:

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Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
Although I know it is not true of every individual. You could easily argue that voting leave endorsed an extremely racist and prejudiced campaign. It enables people with those views who now feel justified in making the sort of claims that Farage and Johnson have made regarding immigrants and other races.

By the way, I wouldve seriously considered voting leave if the campaign hadn't been driven by racism. And if the Tories where not the ones "taking back control" for their rich cronies.
 
£50 fine, coming in the summer, it is then.

Sacked from the BBC in disgrace and having to console herself with a mega bucks job from whatever Tory donor has been acting as her handler.
 
This reminds me - I must give up Sugar:

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I just fear those life-long Lab voters will vote Con this one time, given their one time shot at Brexit.

This one time 'hold my nose and vote Tory' by many Labour leavers is likely to be the key factor in the election. Plus as Ashworth (joking or not)says, Corbyn is detested by many traditional Labour voters. The two things together; 'Get Brexit Done / ABC (anyone but Corbyn) could see Boris over the line.
'Intended consequences' indeed!
 
Sacked from the BBC in disgrace and having to console herself with a mega bucks job from whatever Tory donor has been acting as her handler.
The BBC's own governing body has already found she breached impartiality rules and BBC News said they disagreed and nothing else was done.

She's got stronger job security than Liz Windsor.
 
Apparently, Raab has also said that he's seen postal votes.
 
please share the main gist? So I can also edit and send!

I asked whether they think it's acceptable for their chief political editor to be flagrantly break the law live on air and interfere in a democratic election then quoted that bit above so there was no confusion about exactly what offence she's caused.

Finished it with the usual line of "If she didn't realise what she was doing was illegal and unethical, she is incompetent and shouldn't be in that job, if she did know it was illegal and unethical then she's a criminal and should not be in that job".
 
I asked whether they think it's acceptable for their chief political editor to be flagrantly break the law live on air and interfere in a democratic election then quoted that bit above so there was no confusion about exactly what offence she's caused.

Finished it with the usual line of "If she didn't realise what she was doing was illegal and unethical, she is incompetent and shouldn't be in that job, if she did know it was illegal and unethical then she's a criminal and should not be in that job".

You go sister!
 
I asked whether they think it's acceptable for their chief political editor to be flagrantly break the law live on air and interfere in a democratic election then quoted that bit above so there was no confusion about exactly what offence she's caused.

Finished it with the usual line of "If she didn't realise what she was doing was illegal and unethical, she is incompetent and shouldn't be in that job, if she did know it was illegal and unethical then she's a criminal and should not be in that job".

Thanks! used some in copy of mine below, which others are welcome to edit and send themselves to https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint


The Representation of the People Act 1983: section 66A Prohibition on publication of exit polls
I'm sure BBC is well aware of Section 66 of the Representation of the People Act 1983 which states that publishing UK Election exit polls in advance from is banned – and that covers retweeting how someone voted.
Given this, I would like to know why Laura Kuenssberg reveals information about postal votes a day before an election. The election is not until tomorrow and yet Ms Kuenssberg is reporting this. How is this even possible? How can she be allowed to know them and report them? I'm certain this is election interference and against election rules.
If she didn't realise what she was doing was illegal and unethical, she is incompetent and shouldn't be in that job, if she did know it was illegal and unethical then she's a criminal and should not be in that job.
I look forward to your reply explaining what actions you have taken against Kuenssberg with this regard.
 
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#SackKuenssberg trending on Twitter.

I can't wait to see her get off without a warning.
 
Nice one. I was a bit more passive aggressive in mine and purposely spelt her name wrong
I think Kuenssburg may have overstepped too far this time, as the offence is beyond the jurisdictions of her bent tory BBC senior management.

This is a great summary of her offence; now depends on how much clout and integrity the electoral commission has.
 
This whole thing is utterly depressing to be honest.

Boris and the Tories are so dishonest but it doesn’t matter what they do they will still win a majority. I was hoping against hope that Boris will feck up today, but he’s spent the day hiding in kitchen hardware.

Utterly pathetic.
 
But yeah, no point in going on about it anymore, especially to people who won't/don't want to listen. I'm still going in and voting them and I've managed to convince a few people around me to too, so all we can do is keep fingers crossed.
No worries, mate. If our worst fears are realised I have a feeling we'll be talking about the next Labour leader for weeks to come in the new year anyway.
 
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