UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

How do you intend to vote in the 2019 General Election if eligible?

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 30 4.3%

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 73 10.6%

  • DUP

    Votes: 5 0.7%

  • Green

    Votes: 23 3.3%

  • Labour

    Votes: 355 51.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 58 8.4%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 3 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 1.3%

  • SNP

    Votes: 19 2.8%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 0.9%

  • Independent

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Other (BNP, Change UK, UUP and anyone else that I have forgotten)

    Votes: 10 1.4%

  • Not voting

    Votes: 57 8.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 41 5.9%
  • Total voters
    690
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I genuinely hate Corbyn because he has tenuous links to Hamas. He's a terrorist sympathiser.

I have no issue at all with the Tory government selling weapons to the Saudi government, which has been indiscriminately killing civilians in Yemen.
 
Sweet Square said:
It would be a first but I'll take it

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Well there is the hope their voters will dissappear in the near future. Young people need to start turning up more though.
 
Sweet Square said:
It would be a first but I'll take it

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I share the frustration with the pensioners all voting Tory, but it's erroneous to say they have nothing to live for ffs. Average life expectancy for a 65 year old gives them 20-odd years of Tory cuts.
 
2mufc0 said:
Well there is the hope their voters will dissappear in the near future. Young people need to start turning up more though.
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Most of them lived through the Harold Wilson years. Give the current generation a taste of Corbyn in power and you'll get another generation of Conservative voters.
 
Judas said:
I don't get voting for a party you're not happy to be voting for? How fecking stupid is that.
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It sort of depends on your area I guess due to the way voting works, where I am for instance not voting for Labour would give the Brexit party a chance of getting in. In the original poll at the top I'm down as Green, even though I knew they wouldn't get in, and I didn't think it would really make much difference as this has been a pretty safe Labour seat for the 12-ish years I've been here. So I ended up in a situation where I could vote for who I really wanted to or I could vote for a party that would really be my 2nd choice to try to make sure Labour don't lose a seat.
 
Red Dreams said:
Perfect excuse for the Tories to loot the country.
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They have done that already. It was called Austerity and they loved every second and every personal misery that it caused and is still causing.
Punish the working class is in their DNA. A lots of the voters love being punished as well. Just look at the headlines in the DM.
 
sebsheep said:
It sort of depends on your area I guess due to the way voting works, where I am for instance not voting for Labour would give the Brexit party a chance of getting in.
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Imagine voting for the Greens and then knowingly letting the Brexit Party in. How fecking stupid is that.
 
11101 said:
The amount you post in this thread but you don't even know we don't have a majority government right now :wenger:. 2017 was a hung parliament. We've actually only had 2 years of normal government since 2010.
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Technically true but the DUP was more loyal to May and then Johnson than half of their own party. He lost his majority with his purge. Anything other than a majority is a failure for Bojo and you know it.
 
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
 
Cole9 said:
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
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Maybe wrong thread, but a couple of questions if you don't mind.

1. Why did you vote to leave? What were the deciding factors?
2. Would you still vote to leave knowing what we know now about Brexit and what can actually delivered?
 
11101 said:
Most of them lived through the Harold Wilson years. Give the current generation a taste of Corbyn in power and you'll get another generation of Conservative voters.
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Let's vote him in and see then!
 
Mogget said:
I genuinely hate Corbyn because he has tenuous links to Hamas. He's a terrorist sympathiser.

I have no issue at all with the Tory government selling weapons to the Saudi government, which has been indiscriminately killing civilians in Yemen.
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I was just explaining this to a relative the other day! Tories sold £4.7 billion worth of arms to Saudi Arabia to slaughter civilians. It should be a bigger story.
 
The only people who I have the misfortune of knowing who voted leave are ignorant and stupid, to be fair. I'm sure there is another type, maybe super rich folk. If you don't fall into one of those two categories, I am a bit baffled as to why you'd vote that way.
 
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I for one am shocked that Lord Sugar, a billionaire, has lashed out at a party looking to implement policies tackling inequality and asking for a bit of extra cash from...billionaires.

I'd like to think Sugar has been found out over the last few years and his opinion doesn't change much but I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite is true.
 
Mogget said:
I genuinely hate Corbyn because he has tenuous links to Hamas. He's a terrorist sympathiser.

I have no issue at all with the Tory government selling weapons to the Saudi government, which has been indiscriminately killing civilians in Yemen.
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This is how some people might process that statement.....

I genuinely hate Corbyn because he has tenuous links to Hamas. He's a muslim sympathiser.

I have no issue at all with the Tory government selling weapons to the Saudi government, which has been indiscriminately killing muslims in Yemen.
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This is how they make sense of it.
 
Cole9 said:
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
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Not everybody who voted for Brexit is a racist, but all the racists voted for Brexit.
 
Cole9 said:
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
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Well, it isn't all, but the evidence is clear that it is a key factor in the leave vote - Intelligence and prejudice.
 
Cole9 said:
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
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Which seat is that if you don't mind telling us? Is this a one issue election for you?
 
Cole9 said:
I’m voting Conservative in a marginal seat and I’m happy about it. I also voted to leave the EU.

Most of the Labour supporters that I know in my area think that all of the people that voted to leave are uneducated racists. That’s the narrow-minded and arrogant stance that probably lost them the vote in the first place.
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You're not in great company though, are you? Many will be guilty of unfair generalisations and you're not guilty by association, but it's not a massive stretch to say that most uneducated racists voted leave. Do you know any uneducated racists that voted remain? That's not to say that most people that voted leave are uneducated racists, I'd like to make that distinction.

I'm a Labour voter. It's my personal experience that of the people I know well that voted leave, I've also known them to peddle xenophobic and bigoted nonsense in the past. That's not opinion, it's literally by definition. The result is that it's difficult to conclude anything other than the sum of those experiences.
 
esmufc07 said:
Not everybody who voted for Brexit is a racist, but all the racists voted for Brexit.
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I'm strongly in favour of a Labour government this week and I voted to remain, but this just isn't true. Plenty of racists voted to remain and the majority of them are in the currently sitting government.
 
I'm in orpington tomorrow, about as safe as a Tory seat as you can get. Used to be Jo Johnson's seat,

Labour were 20k behind last time.

The new (potential) Tory MP, Gareth Bacon, lives out of the constituency, haven't attended any of the committees or public forums in the run up to the election, and will still likely win by a landslide. It's incredibly depressing.

Not holding out hope for anything but a Tory majority, 10 years of political stalemate and division, and racist and prejudice views being "normalised" because those in power share the same views.
 
robinamicrowave said:
I'm strongly in favour of a Labour government this week and I voted to remain, but this just isn't true. Plenty of racists voted to remain and the majority of them are in the currently sitting government.
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All (or 95%) racist members of the public voted to leave I would guess.
 
muller said:
All (or 95%) racist members of the public voted to leave I would guess.
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All that says to me is that there is a large number of remain voters who have no idea they're racists. :lol:
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Gotta love those Boomers. The money is mine.

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Jippy said:
I share the frustration with the pensioners all voting Tory, but it's erroneous to say they have nothing to live for ffs. Average life expectancy for a 65 year old gives them 20-odd years of Tory cuts.
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Maybe I've misread the tweet but I took the ''to whom the future doesn't matter'' line as a reference to climate change. I believe there are actual real reasons why older people vote tory and it isn't simply down to greed, selfishness, racism/xenophobia or that they read the daily mail but........

There really is only one party who has a plan that could come anywhere near the levels we need to fight possibility the biggest crisis in human history and its not the tory party.

FlawlessThaw said:
Imagine voting for the Greens and then knowingly letting the Brexit Party in. How fecking stupid is that.
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Updated Labour policy on trident

 
decorativeed said:
Yes, I chose those words specifically. It wasn't an accident. In fact, it's almost like I was trying to make a point. Clearly it was wasted on you.
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As we would wish with our politicians, you should speak more clearly then, when trying to make a point, lot less confusing!
 
muller said:
I'm in orpington tomorrow, about as safe as a Tory seat as you can get. Used to be Jo Johnson's seat,

Labour were 20k behind last time.

The new (potential) Tory MP, Gareth Bacon, lives out of the constituency, haven't attended any of the committees or public forums in the run up to the election, and will still likely win by a landslide. It's incredibly depressing.

Not holding out hope for anything but a Tory majority, 10 years of political stalemate and division, and racist and prejudice views being "normalised" because those in power share the same views.
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Yeah I said the same thing the other day. That's the worst part. They parachute these muppets in and you never see or hear from them after that until there's another election due.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
It turns out that my constituency just needs a 4% swing towards Labour to win and now I'm conflicted. Historically I've voted Labour but moved to the SNP in 2015 because they were the "socialist" option. Now I'm seeing the SNP shitting more and more on education and I don't know what to do. Do I return to the dark side?

I'm sure that the Caf will give me a fair and balanced answer.
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Answer is obvious man.

1 term. Switch back if need be.
 
Abizzz said:
Technically true but the DUP was more loyal to May and then Johnson than half of their own party. He lost his majority with his purge. Anything other than a majority is a failure for Bojo and you know it.
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It's a failure for all. I voted to stay in the EU but at this point it's obvious we need certainty. We cant have another 5 years of coalition government and do we leave/dont we leave.
 
esmufc07 said:
@Ultimate Grib @owlo how are your polls doing?
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The tide is changing. Even extremists like Guido and Leave.EU are getting absolutely overrun by people posting supportive comments for Labour.

People are wising up to what a shyster Johnson actually is and that you can't trust a word he says. They've evern turned on him for Brexit, and advocating voting for Farage's lot.

Momentum are full out attack, very few events organised to defending constituencies. I've taken leave tomorrow and will be out in Milton Keynes. They're close and ready to be flipped :devil:

Exit poll will be the first of many celebrations tomorrow night :drool:
 
Ultimate Grib said:
The tide is changing. Even extremists like Guido and Leave.EU are getting absolutely overrun by people posting supportive comments for Labour.

People are wising up to what a shyster Johnson actually is and that you can't trust a word he says. They've evern turned on him for Brexit, and advocating voting for Farage's lot.

Momentum are full out attack, very few events organised to defending constituencies. I've taken leave tomorrow and will be out in Milton Keynes. They're close and ready to be flipped :devil:

Exit poll will be the first of many celebrations tomorrow night :drool:
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Don't think I've ever been so nervous for a feckin' exit poll :lol:

Good luck in your campaigning.
 
FigmentOfYerImagination said:
Lot to disagree with here, I'll try to cover it pointwise
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First off, no need to apologise thank you for taking the trouble to read my post.

Unfortunately, I was attempting (not very well it seems) to underscore the problems of having 'two big dogs' and no written constitution to actively ensure a fairer and more equal democratic model. My second point was to try to show in short hand where the impetus for using precedence came from, I was not agreeing this, simply trying to show how it came about.

I do not disagree with any of the six points you make.
 
Stanley Road said:
:lol:

You said national security under labour was a concern for him right? But he is happy with national security getting fecked by any other party due to police cuts? As a Tory voter yourself, the same question applies.
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I thought you socialists were all honest and didn't peddle lies!

I said in my post he was a lifelong Labour supporter and passionate remainer. He is not going to vote Tory ffs!

I have also posted countless times that am also a passionate remainer I can not vote Tory because of their stance on Brexit.

What I don't get it that there thousands of normally Conservative voting remainers who will be voting LibDem instead, but this is seemingly not borne out by the opinion polls at all.

It is the xenophobic/racist traditionally Labour voter who will be responsible for a Conservative win and the chaos of Brexit.
 
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