I'm not a Tory and I'm only trying to further the cause that her widowed husband is also trying to further
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-po...urdered-mp-jo-cox-shocked-by-commons-language
UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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I'm not a Tory and I'm only trying to further the cause that her widowed husband is also trying to further
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-po...urdered-mp-jo-cox-shocked-by-commons-language
Any idea if Labour and Lib Dems are ready to formally endorse tactical voting in some of the seats?
Great job exposing lies and disinformation, it's something genuinely shocking that such a stunning number of people all across Europe (and the world, but Europe shock me more as I know about it's history most and I have highest expectations of it) just want to be lied. They'd say they want honest politicians, but they can't handle the truth when it doesn't fit in their narrative. They'd buy papers that write precisely what they want to read (not to be more informed, merely to be more assured about their beliefs), they'd vote for politicans that say what they want to hear. It's a lie on a lie, bullsh*t on a bullsh*t, groups of interest blantatly pushing for their agenda with an unprecedented audacity, hardly even trying to act impartial or motivated by anything else than their growing influence. People that believed all it takes to "get Brexit done" is to leave the EU, and that the day it happens Brexit/EU/UK-EU relationship will disappear from the news and Britain will be back to discussing more important stuff. Not British myself I observe what's happening in the UK with my very personal bias, but it frightens me to see such a grown up democracy and such an educated, wealthy and prosperous nation completely losing their commons sense, pragmatism and understanding of the role UK can play in the world. Politics of simple answers to complex questions are winning, smears are more effective than ever before, cynics triumph and people are understandably tired of this. Worst part is that by the time many of these voter understand that voting BoJo did not mean getting Brexit done instantly and that they in fact voted against their own interest it will be well too late. They will be frustrated, they will be furious and they will blame establishment, fueling the already strong anti-establishement narrative that itself led to Brexit. A vicious circle.
Right @sun_tzu I've done a little bit of investigation work.
Here's the image you posted:
It's hosted by Guido Fawkes as you well know and as I knew when I asked the question.
Here's the link: https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Labour-whatsapp-taxis-without-times.png
Something struck me as a little bit odd about this.
"without-times"
So I removed "without-times" and I got this image:
As you can see, it's still hosted on the same domain. order-order.com and the times show that the images were posted at 17:54 on wards.
This tweet was posted half an hour before the whatsapp messages supposedly happened. The whatsapp messages also suggest it was still light at nearly 6pm yesterday.
So do yourself a fecking favour and stop filling your head with pure disinformation. You are either trusting these people to inform you or it's just political fiction porn that you get off on. Either way can you do us all a favour here and keep it out of this thread from now on because you're embarrassing yourself.
Great job exposing lies and disinformation, it's something genuinely shocking that such a stunning number of people all across Europe (and the world, but Europe shock me more as I know about it's history most and I have highest expectations of it) just want to be lied. They'd say they want honest politicians, but they can't handle the truth when it doesn't fit in their narrative. They'd buy papers that write precisely what they want to read (not to be more informed, merely to be more assured about their beliefs), they'd vote for politicans that say what they want to hear. It's a lie on a lie, bullsh*t on a bullsh*t, groups of interest blantatly pushing for their agenda with an unprecedented audacity, hardly even trying to act impartial or motivated by anything else than their growing influence. People that believed all it takes to "get Brexit done" is to leave the EU, and that the day it happens Brexit/EU/UK-EU relationship will disappear from the news and Britain will be back to discussing more important stuff. Not British myself I observe what's happening in the UK with my very personal bias, but it frightens me to see such a grown up democracy and such an educated, wealthy and prosperous nation completely losing their commons sense, pragmatism and understanding of the role UK can play in the world. Politics of simple answers to complex questions are winning, smears are more effective than ever before, cynics triumph and people are understandably tired of this. Worst part is that by the time many of these voter understand that voting BoJo did not mean getting Brexit done instantly and that they in fact voted against their own interest it will be well too late. They will be frustrated, they will be furious and they will blame establishment, fueling the already strong anti-establishement narrative that itself led to Brexit. A vicious circle.
Be glad when all this arguing is over. After so much it becomes tiresome. As if one of my Facebook contacts is going to change my mind by posting stupide memes on there.
Haven't you working this out yet?
Unless you toe the party line, you are immediately branded a heartless Tory who eats small children for breakfast and kicks homeless people. There is no middle ground allowed.
You, as a Tory, should not be bringing her up to defend a lying Tory aide lying about being assaulted outside a hospital where a child with pneumonia is asleep on the floor inside. You really are coming across as quite the moron at the moment. How about you just admit the guy lied and move on with your life, rather than outrageously bringing up the name of murdered left wing politician in a completely irrelevant context.
Most people want a dictator in their own image.
He will have a deselection ballot quicker than you can say antisemitic entryist jezbolla loving mob
Listen to what her husband said above, he is saying exactly the same thing I am saying.
I don't know why you keep calling me a Tory. I have never voted Tory in my life and as I have previously said I was a Lib Dem member until they became the remain party.
I’m not a right wing Tory, so using that as an insult doesn’t land. I’ve said many times I’m firmly in the middle ground. Unfortunately there is no party that Really represents me at the moment, but I have a choice, and it’s not labour. Not everyone who votes Tory is a raving right winger.
What? So people who are unsatisfied with a hospital that has a child with pneumonia sleeping on the floor aren't allowed to peacefully protest against the man who is in charge of the mess? You're a moron.
3 times in the space of half a dozen posts he has said he is not a Tory & has never voted Conservative!
I guess you're still formulating a response to my last posts. That's OK I'll let you reflect on it for a bit.
Right @sun_tzu I've done a little bit of investigation work.
Here's the image you posted:
It's hosted by Guido Fawkes as you well know and as I knew when I asked the question.
Here's the link: https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Labour-whatsapp-taxis-without-times.png
Something struck me as a little bit odd about this.
"without-times"
So I removed "without-times" and I got this image:
As you can see, it's still hosted on the same domain. order-order.com and the times show that the images were posted at 17:54 on wards.
This tweet was posted half an hour before the whatsapp messages supposedly happened. The whatsapp messages also suggest it was still light at nearly 6pm yesterday.
So do yourself a fecking favour and stop filling your head with pure disinformation. You are either trusting these people to inform you or it's just political fiction porn that you get off on. Either way can you do us all a favour here and keep it out of this thread from now on because you're embarrassing yourself.
This is excellent. If only we had journalists who were interested in investigating.
No surprise. The Tories have handled the economy terribly, and it's only going to get worse.
It's pointless, they aren't interested, there is no middle ground.
They just endorse raving right wing policies. Fair enough, point taken.
Right @sun_tzu I've done a little bit of investigation work.
Here's the image you posted:
It's hosted by Guido Fawkes as you well know and as I knew when I asked the question.
Here's the link: https://i2.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Labour-whatsapp-taxis-without-times.png
Something struck me as a little bit odd about this.
"without-times"
So I removed "without-times" and I got this image:
As you can see, it's still hosted on the same domain. order-order.com and the times show that the images were posted at 17:54 on wards.
This tweet was posted half an hour before the whatsapp messages supposedly happened. The whatsapp messages also suggest it was still light at nearly 6pm yesterday.
So do yourself a fecking favour and stop filling your head with pure disinformation. You are either trusting these people to inform you or it's just political fiction porn that you get off on. Either way can you do us all a favour here and keep it out of this thread from now on because you're embarrassing yourself.
Not all heroes wear capes.Of course they are allowed to peacefully protest. There was a lot of anger in that protest, that is not peaceful. Hold up banners, sing, chant etc. but as soon as you start shouting "you are not allowed here, you are not allowed in this country" you are no longer protesting peacefully.
Pexbo actually does wear a cape tbf.
But will be voting for them this time around. These Tories being the worst Tories in my life time.
They don't even swear, you're being incredibly disingenuous here.
As I've said previously, I'm currently minded not to vote for anyone. Doesn't really matter as my constituency will definitely be Lib Dem.
I have a few mates who are voting Tory. I wouldn't call them evil people.
Why is the health secretary not allowed to visit a hospital? Why is he not allowed be be in the country of his birth? What has swearing got to do with it?
He is allowed, and members of the public are allowed to protest. They really didn't say anything too abusive. It was really very British.
Are they are voting Tory just because of Brexit?
Who were the not so bad ones?
This is the only thing you've posted in here in a while I agree with.
There's a real hard left vs hard right in here and out in real life and neither side are willing to even listen to anyone who might think differently. It's completely us vs them with you lot.
He is, but the locals are certainly within their right to protest his shambolic handling of the NHS.
So they don't swear and they don't commit any violence... remind me again how this isn't a peaceful protest in your mind? This is like those clowns who compare Nige getting milkshaked to Jo Cox.
None of them. These lot are evil though.
One is. He doesn't believe in the political union, but wants to stay aligned with the EU economically, and thinks when push comes to shove the EU and the UK will work out a deal because it will be mutually beneficial. I disagree with him and believe his optimism is misplaced, but he's entitled to his view.
I've tried to convince him that the current iteration of the Conservative party is a rotten one, but alas the man is not for turning.
Evil is a strong word.
You would say that given all those evil mates you've got, Colin for one.
I know it is, that's why I used it.
Same tactics used in the America, wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people involved too.
I think it should be reserved for people who are actually evil though. Hancock is a monumental bellend and a charlatan, but he isn't evil.
Sorry too busy planning which popcorn gif to drop when they exit poll comes out... You know youthquake and all that
OK cool I'll let you get back to adult things like your political anime then.
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