So she should. Utter diarrhea journalism
UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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So she should. Utter diarrhea journalism
He literally put his hand on his shoulder straight afterwards as if to say "sorry pal"
It's the most British violent exchange I've ever seen.Whilst there was a BBC colleague of hers actually at the scene (who described it as an accidental collision live on Radio 4) and she decided to run with the Tory version of events without asking them.The State Senior Political correspondent is literally spreading fake news
The favourable version for her is that she's bought and paid for, the alternative is that she is the worst journalist on the face of the planet.
exactly. But he’s got the hard core lefties hooked on the angle that it’s everyone else’s fault and it’s all just a conspiracy
reliable and Caf don’t go together! in some ways I admire their loyalty to Corbyn, but it’s so misplaced and misjudged.
You misunderstand me, I don’t think a second ref would settle anything. The point I was making is that even without either party backing Remain that’s been the direction of travel since 2016. This disagreement won’t be settled at the ballot box in my view, it’ll be settled in the public domain.
As for those Leave voters in the north etc, of course they haven’t changed their minds, who's tried to change them? Not Labour. Instead Labour have tried to find a position that suits both leavers and Remainers. But that assumes that such a position exists, something which, if it exists at all, certainty hasn’t been found. Instead we’ve had a position that satisfies neither rather than both.
Besides even if such a position did exist, it would need a communicator of rare talent who could cut through the noise and convince people on both the left and the right, as well as Leavers and Remainers, to trust that person enough to set aside their personal views and let them try and settle this. Labour made a gross misreading of Corbyn’s strengths if they think he’s that person. Again, Labour have ended up with neither side trusting them, rather than both.
I don’t want to predict the outcome on Thursday, but if polls are right and Labour have made no real headway against this utter shambles of a Tory Party they can’t consider their strategy a success.
That makes it even worse, I would've given her an ounce of leeway if she had to rely simply on rumours from her 'Downing Street sources', but there was an actual colleague at the scene and she just didn't corroborate?
I'm sure people have lost their jobs/responsibilities for much less - her job is far too important to let this kind of thing continue to happen.
Is this a parody or am I being culturally ignorant? Is this what Indian people go for?
And you assume that Leave voters have the possibility of changing their minds - the overwhelming majority of them haven't changed their minds, similarly with Remain voters. Most people who voted in the first Referendum are unlikely to have changed their position. Some will have, of course but even in the poll that you quoted, the result is still firmly within the margin of error - and again the silent Brexiteer is a strong influence that can't be accounted for even in vigorous polling data.
I still believe that Labour simply had to appeal to both Leave & Remain because Brexit is an issue that divides political allegiances. I agree that they needed a better communicator - Corbyn is better at rallies than he is on TV - but politics shouldn't be so fickle as to rely on a fancy politician in a nice suit. Obviously that's idealistic and possibly unrealistic, but change has to start from somewhere.
The Tory Party may be a shambles, but they've clearly been assisted in ways which Labour simply can't rise to - hopefully this doesn't set a precedent within our elections because it's been clear that mobilising misleading information on social media has been a strategy for the Tories since one of the first days of the election when they doctored a video of one of the Labour MP's replying to a question about Brexit. Compound that with the BBC's 'errors', & Boris literally running from any scrutiny - this election-cycle has been Americanised, and I don't think there's any way to reel it back in now.
DM going all in on the 'punch' angle in a screaming six deck headline.
He literally put his hand on his shoulder straight afterwards as if to say "sorry pal"
to be fair it is was a footballer he would be rolling on the ground clutching his face for 90 seconds.
I think labour will loose a few "traditional" strongholds
Bolsover for example has been a labour place since it was created as a constituiency in 1950
Dennis Skinner having been MP there since 1970
If he wins he returns as the "father of the house"
But a number of pollsters think the conservatives will win
Strong leave seat and I guess the aging miner demographic which made it such a stronghold has over time reduced
Couldn't imagine lord Skinner either so I guess he will just retire given his age
I think it's about time the licence was scrapped and the BBC turned into a subriscription service, I don't want to pay for this shite.
I find it hard to believe this will sway anyone. But whatsapp is filled with a lot of stuff like this, amateur songs and devotional songs, in favour of Modi. Maybe it helps build the atmosphere.
I'd rather an independent investigation was conducted and the rotten centre ripped out of it so we can have an entirely impartial state funded broadcaster that we can trust.
You don't have to.
It's been obvious for a long time now.
You need one if you have live TV.
They changed it now to 'target Hancock's advisers'!
Banana republic. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind punching her in the face real hard, she’s a disgrace of the human being.The State Senior Political correspondent is literally spreading fake news
Well at least there is absolutely no question of a media bias.
She’s back tracked a bit now
Yeah same. They need to re earn the right to call themselves "the world most trusted news provider."
This is how you apologise, Laura:
My point is that the investment in schools and hospitals was necessary and justifiable then. In exactly the same way that huge amounts of money are deemed necessary and justifiable by all of the political parties now.
None of them distinguish between capital or day to day spend in the election.
So it looks like the Tory party have got this wrapped up according to various news outlets?
Just like Theresa May in 2017 with a big majority
She's really gunning for that comms director role.
Peston went even further and suggested the police were on the scene.
One thing we know for certain is that people change their minds, otherwise every election would be the same. It’s one of the few givens in politics. That’s why campaigning matters.
Substitute NHS for BBC in about 5 years time. Once the tories have had enough time to fully run that into the ground too.
It happens. Ruiz kept walking into Joshua's hands on Saturday but Joshua was smart enough to not walk in front of Ruiz's
BBC haven't been run into the ground though.
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