Eh? The goalkeeper had the angle covered but the ball rebounded in a portuguese player and went the other way. I´ve watched the goal multiple times and the portuguese pundits have said the same. Carvalho MoM too bad i didn´t watch the game.
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Eh? The goalkeeper had the angle covered but the ball rebounded in a portuguese player and went the other way. I´ve watched the goal multiple times and the portuguese pundits have said the same. Carvalho MoM too bad i didn´t watch the game.
WTF Why is old glass-knee saying "you" didn't play well enough? Has he forgotten he played for England?
Kane looked pretty good to me. Put Ings through with a great ball, had a lovely take down of a long ball and then cut in and very good hit the Italian keeper did well to stop.
He might not go 2 in 3 in the league again, but even if he's a 1 in 2 striker that's pretty good considering he's not greedy and has some creative skills and hold up play.
He's not similar to Benzema stylistically, but I could see him ending up as a similar 1 in 2 for Club, 1 in 3 for country striker who can play for top teams because of his ability to be unselfish and healthy while putting up those good enough numbers.
He might not go 2 in 3 in the league again, but even if he's a 1 in 2 striker that's pretty good considering he's not greedy and has some creative skills and hold up play.
He's not similar to Benzema stylistically, but I could see him ending up as a similar 1 in 2 for Club, 1 in 3 for country striker who can play for top teams because of his ability to be unselfish and healthy while putting up those good enough numbers.
Bottom again. 
Least we won a game this time round.
Least we won a game this time round.
England consistently produce 9s and decent central midfielders with good energy and goal threats, but that's it. The wide talent is pretty much all limited to being good in one direction, defensive midfielders of even mid-table quality are completely non-existent and the center backs looks okay but not at the Terry/Campbell/Ferdinand level.
Long-term, I think one of Kane/Sturridge should be a very, very good 9, Sterling will be a good winger, Wilshere a solid CM and Shaw and Hart should be strong starters in the back 5.
Smalling, Chamberlain and Clyne need to develop into strong players, a DM needs to fall out of the goddamn sky and one of Stones, Jones or Dier needs to develop well.
Not a lot of margin for error.
Kane's got a lot to his game. Goalscoring has been off the boil to the tail end of the season but he makes good use of the ball and is clever in his movement. I don't think he'll get "found out" seeing as he doesn't rely on physical strengths as a core of his play.
Disappointing result. Southgate had done some good things with this bunch but clearly a disappointing showing. A little unlucky that Shaw was unavailable and Ravel vanished into nowhere and Stones missing the first game but I think Zaha and Dier should have been picked. Only watched the first game of the groups but I'd probably let Southgate survive.
He is awesome. I live in Groningen and everybody likes him. He came in and became one of the best players directly. He has great passing ability and rarely loses the ball. Everybody knows he will leave for a bigger/better club.
Tibling and Rusnak (ex City) were great transfers and helped Groningen massively with winning their first prize (Dutch cup)
He was calm and collected, setting the tempo of the match. I think Cavaleiro had a good game before he was subbed. Guerreiro good to. Bernardo Silva had some nice dribbles but no end product. To lazy to check spelling of names..
Southgate simply confirms what he showed as a club manager - he just hasn't got it.
Never mind though, he dresses and speaks well so he's the FA's perfect next England manager.
Never mind though, he dresses and speaks well so he's the FA's perfect next England manager.
That is great to hear! Hopefully he can become a great player for the senior national team. We really need some new blood.
How did Guidetti do? Sporting is supposedly interested in him according to Ojogo newspaper
Works hard, as always. Had one chance late on chasing the equalizer but fatigue influenced finishing. He has come back after food poisoning (some bad chicken) which kept him out for a year (?). He did great in Holland then was very good for Celtic (scoring 10 in 10 or something like that) then he didn't score for some matches and was benched. When Celtic understood he wouldn't want to sign for them he only made sporadic appearance off the bench. I can see him doing a good job in the portuguese leage but i'm not sure if he has a higher level in him than Sporting. You never now, though. He trains an insane amount.
Southgate: "we have created more chances. We've progressed in the last 2 yrs"
Ok, I call an ambulance for him
Ok, I call an ambulance for him
Gareth Strootman should retire, I think Gibson was shocking, Mike Keane wasn't eligable? Jess the best English player
Thanks once again. I don´t get the bolded part though. Guidetti a higher level than Sporting? I think it´s the other way around, i don´t know if he´s good enough for us.
Guidetti is a free agent and he has probably the most hilarious personality in football.
He's talented, but I would also think a good Portuguese or maybe Dutch team might be his ceiling. I hope he does well.
He's talented, but I would also think a good Portuguese or maybe Dutch team might be his ceiling. I hope he does well.
Yeah i think the problem is that he is asking a big sign on fee. Either he is really good or he doesn´t mind being an impact sub since it will be very hard to displace Slimani who is a very experienced player with a good scoring record.
Italy's third goal shouldn't have been allowed, another foul throw from their RB.
Foul throws are hilarious in that the only place you actually get penalised for them is in under 11 football and younger.
It'd be illogical to pretend it didn't happen though, surely? 2 goals in his last 12 games is worth taking note of.
He's incompetent but it's amazing how the manager is blamed over and over and over again for the English national team. It's always the same. Pre-tournament excitement, reality sets in, and then the knives are out for the manager. The players get a bit of the spotlight initially and then get forgotten about quite quickly.
You're right. Should have added that actually. What i meant was if he becomes a starter for you i'm not sure he has another level in him (to play for a "better" club). He wouldn't be a starter right now but i can see him getting there and being really good for you.
Zlatan.But facts are facts. Southgate has no record of success at any level whatsoever to point at and say it justifies him staying in the job. He can't motivate or properly organise any team to give of their best when it counts. He made some very mystifying team selections in this tournament and waited far too long to change anything when it was clear that what he'd set out to do wasn't working.
Never mind though, he's got friends at the FA so we'll hear a lot of gobbledegook and "FA speak" and he'll stroll on untouched by it all.
To think that some rate some of these players 30-40m
It isn't especially noteworthy all things considered. Did you watch the games in this tournament? He didn't play too badly. The service to him was dire from a dire midfield. He went close a few times with chances he created for himself. He made the best pass of the game against Italy to put Ings clean through and he went close to scoring with the best individual moment in the game. Ings on the other hand, he looked like a basic forward who bottled a couple of great chances.
How many strikers go on similar droughts, the vast majority? In isolation it means very little IMO.
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To think that we will have to put up with a third of our squad made up of this shite!
Sly! There you are. Just wanted to say congrats on Sportings cup win. Found out late.
So hope you had fun.
If you support Sporting.....
Denmark vs. Sweden should be interesting. I'm looking forward to that. And it's on a Saturday too
Denmark vs. Sweden should be interesting. I'm looking forward to that. And it's on a Saturday too
Me too! Just a shame i will be hammered out of my mind on a field in Roskilde.. They are showing it on a big screen on Rådhuspladsen I think
I'll only be at Roskilde sporadically until Wednesday (due to writing my master's at the moment) so this game couldn't have been timed any better as far as I'm concerned.
I've been penalised for a throw in, 18-19 yrs ago
Sweden has similar issues. We just can't figure out how to create technical dribblers, and in particular wingers. We've had talents pop out in every other position with Zlatan, Elmander, Thysen, Guidetti, Toivonen and Berg. But out wide we can't seem to develop wingers by any means.
We have a very strong 4-4-2 tradition like England and our most technical players often play in one of the forward roles. Can't even remember the last time we created a big winger talent bar Ljungberg, we didn't even have strong wingers in our great 92-94 team.
When you compare that to the amount of players we've developed in all other positions in the last 25 years it becomes a worrying fact.
Another tournament another England masterclass in failure. McMannaman was horrendous on commentary but he was right when he bluntly said that we simply aren't good enough.
So Germany vs Portugal should be a good semi and I'm intrigued to see how the best of bacon do vs vintage porn.
So Germany vs Portugal should be a good semi and I'm intrigued to see how the best of bacon do vs vintage porn.
I think it's normal for countries to specialize a bit and it's possible to excel without wingers (look at Juve this year). There are positions everyone needs though.
Every country needs at least 1 Keeper, 2 Center Backs, 3 Central Midfielders (at least one with defensive skills) and 2 Fullbacks/Wingbacks with some quality, then 3 attackers of any kind and I would worry less about balance. You can probably squeak by with one competent wingback/fullback and then hope to get lucky during a tournament on the other side.
Uruguay only have strikers and they just played Forlan deeper or Cavani wider. Spain had mediocre 9 play post-Villa and they won trophies.
Attackers can be similar, but defensive and midfield talent must be spread out.
It looked to me like Southgate wasn't good enough. Chalobah and Foster-Caskey was a weird choice as a midfield pairing against the Italians surely. The former especially has no interest in actually getting on the ball.
The thing is he gave all the CM's a chance and none of them bar Cheek none of them really showed they were ready to start, and up front the two PL strikers simply didn't deliver.
We seem to be incapable of developing any strikers here in Denmark. Our best striker is still Bendtner and he's been that for what feels like forever. Most of our good offensive players are vaguely defined in terms of natural position.
Why didn't Loftus-Cheek play against Italy?