U.S. Presidential Race: Official Thread

Obama or McCain/Democrat or Republican..you decide

  • McCain

    Votes: 14 7.5%
  • Obama

    Votes: 173 92.5%

  • Total voters
    187
  • Poll closed .
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If all the undecided states now go to Obama he could get over 400. Which I again doubt. Although I think he will get at least 350 if not more.
 
I would have to actually, he likes his guns though

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If I could change my estimate I'd drop it down to 376 for Obama. Too late to change.
 
Chuck Norris is a staunchly conservative Republican who once filled in for the loathsome Sean Hannity on Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes" program. He does not believe in evolution, and recently gave the commencement address at Liberty University, founded by the loathsome Jerry Falwell. During the Republican primaries he endorsed Mike Huckabee's campaign. In addition, he does not sleep: he waits.


 
Chuck Norris is a staunchly conservative Republican who ..... does not believe in evolution, and recently gave the commencement address at Liberty University, founded by the loathsome Jerry Falwell.

Another nutter. Excellent.
 
Can anyone direct me to a link to a stream that I can use to follow the election?

I'm not interested in the entire thing, if I were to invest two-three hours, what would be the best time to do so?
 
not sure but typically I tune in at about 8 or 9pm EST. the voting in the eastern US is usually done and results have started coming in.
It'll run all night up to about midnight or later (EST) typically but if it's a landslide then the it may be over earlier. A lot of the crucial states are on EST or central time (VA, NY, FL, OH, Indiana, etc).

I'll probably watch flick between CNN, MSNBC or one of the public (PBS) stations (WETA, etc). The public stations don't have ads and the quality of analysis and reporting is usually much better than say Fox, CBS, etc.

BBC America may have a special coverage too, but they have ads too.
 
btw I've arrived at 286 by giving Obama all Kerry states + NM, CO, VA and IA.

Of course this assumes that McCain runs away with all the current toss ups which is unlikely. IMO, as long as McCain doesn't turn PA, it should be safe for Obama. If PA turns, then it squeaky bum time.

Obama polled better than he actually did in the primaries. If that trend holds, then McCain may well take all the toss ups. I think holding on to PA is the key for Obama. If he does, he wins the election.
 
What sort of time do the exit polls start to appear? And then, when do the results start coming out?

What I'm really asking is, should I stay up all night, or just get up really early?
 
What sort of time do the exit polls start to appear? And then, when do the results start coming out?

What I'm really asking is, should I stay up all night, or just get up really early?

There is no one poll closing time due to the time zones here. But polls in most of the big battleground states close by 8pm ET which is 1am in the UK. The results start to come in immediately after polls close, so you want to be watching around that time.
 
There is no one poll closing time due to the time zones here. But polls in most of the big battleground states close by 8pm ET which is 1am in the UK. The results start to come in immediately after polls close, so you want to be watching around that time.

Cool, late night it is then. I hope John Snow has a swingometer or something.
 
What sort of time do the exit polls start to appear? And then, when do the results start coming out?

What I'm really asking is, should I stay up all night, or just get up really early?

After months of campaigning, hours of election speeches and debates, and hundreds of opinion polls tracking the ebb and flow of the 2008 US presidential election, the time of reckoning is near.

Keep this guide to US election night to hand to check what will be happening when and what to look out for.

Remember each state has a certain number of electors in the electoral college that elects the president, so the winner is the one who wins enough states to stack up 270 electors' votes.

We give the times the polls close in various states (some straddle more than one time zone) but if there is heavy turnout and/or problems with the voting equipment, some precincts may stay open longer.

In some cases, projected results will emerge immediately after voting ends but in other cases, depending on how tight the race is, they may not emerge for several hours (or in the case of 2000, several weeks).

So here goes:

2300 GMT (1800 EST):
The first polls close, but election night really gets going in another hour.

2400 GMT (1900 EST): Polls close in Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vermont but the ones to watch are Indiana and Virginia. Both have gone Republican since 1964, so if either of them go for Barack Obama, it could spell a miserable night for John McCain.

But if Senator McCain secures both, he is still in with a chance.

0030 GMT (1930 EST): Get set for drama here. Polls close in the key battleground state of Ohio - it is finely balanced and we might have a long wait before we know which way it has gone. In 2004, the result was not called for several hours.

North Carolina has been fiercely targeted by the Obama campaign, which has flooded the state with money and volunteers.

Democratic success here could suggest Senator Obama is on a roll but a McCain triumph will signal late movement towards the Republican.

West Virginia should be called on the hour - a Republican win.

0100 GMT (2000 EST): The night really speeds up now. Polls close in 15 states and the District of Columbia. Which way most of them will go seems pretty clear and the results should come quickly. But watch out for these:

• Missouri - the classic bellwether state. It has backed the winner in every presidential race since 1904, except President Eisenhower in 1956, and the polls suggest a very tight contest.

• Florida - its 27 electoral college votes have been bitterly fought over - it's that important and a state Mr McCain simply must win.

• Pennsylvania - it has voted Democratic in the last five elections but has become another of the key battlegrounds. Mr McCain really has to capture this Democratic "blue" state - the view is if he cannot win here, he almost certainly will not win the election.

• New Hampshire - Mr McCain is hoping to win here and he is in with a chance. The state only has four electoral college votes but if the race is tight, they could be crucial.

Also closing here are Mr Obama's home state of Illinois and Delaware - home state of his running mate Joe Biden.

(Note for election buffs: Maine - and Nebraska which closes in an hour - can split their electoral college vote count - the rest use the winner-takes-all method.)

0130 GMT (2030 EST):
Polls close in Arkansas and it is safely Republican. So if you need a quick breather, then now is your chance as in 30 minutes things could get really interesting.

0200 GMT (2100 EST): Another big bunch of states closes now and it is the earliest either candidate can realistically reach the magic 270.

So depending on how things stand, it will be all over bar the shouting or the election night just got a lot longer.

Mr Obama has been targeting Colorado and New Mexico - which both went Republican in 2004. He really needs to win these if he hasn't picked up any Republican "red "states by now.

Mr McCain needs to win the blue states of Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin if he is losing red states and has not secured Pennsylvania.

Polls also close in Mr McCain's home state of Arizona.

0300 GMT (2200 EST): Last of the real battleground states close now. Mr Obama is expected to win in Iowa so if he doesn't that will be a real upset.

Watch out for Nevada - the state has an uncanny knack of backing the eventual winner. The Obama campaign has put a lot of money and workers here, so we will see if that paid off.

Montana until recently was not seen as a possible Democratic win but now it is.

0400 GMT (2300 EST): States closing here should be safe for their respective parties - Idaho (four votes) for Mr McCain, while California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington are set to give Mr Obama 77 electoral votes.

So if the Democratic candidate has already won states like Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, or Florida, then he has it in the bag.

0600 GMT (0100 EST): All polls have closed in Alaska and it would be a huge surprise if it did not stay Republican, given that the state's governor, Sarah Palin, is on the ticket.

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c'mon McCain please win and twat you're country even more than bush.
 
Obama's grandmother has died. It's turning into The X Factor.
 
pity she couldn't hold on for 2 more days.
wonder if he's off to hawaii as we speak. feel bad for him as his mom is dead too and I'd imagine that he'd love to have them see him win (hopefully).
 
btw I've arrived at 286 by giving Obama all Kerry states + NM, CO, VA and IA.

Of course this assumes that McCain runs away with all the current toss ups which is unlikely. IMO, as long as McCain doesn't turn PA, it should be safe for Obama. If PA turns, then it squeaky bum time.

Obama polled better than he actually did in the primaries. If that trend holds, then McCain may well take all the toss ups. I think holding on to PA is the key for Obama. If he does, he wins the election.

If you want a hint about where the campaigns think work needs to be done, look at where they are campaigning.....Obama is not going to PA today...

he went to FL,NC and VA...which does not mean he is worried...just he is making sure....NC will be close...but he will win the other 2 and certainly PA..
 
Obama's grandmother dies after battle with cancer

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(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has died following a bout with cancer, Obama and his sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said Monday.

She was 86.

At a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, Monday night, the Illinois senator said "she has gone home and she died peacefully in her sleep with my sister at her side."

"I'm not going to talk about it long because it's hard to talk about," he added.

Obama remembered her as "one of those quiet heroes we have across America, who aren't famous ... but each and every day they work hard. They look after their families. They look after their children and their grandchildren."

In a statement released Monday afternoon, Obama and his sister said that Dunham was "the cornerstone of our family, and a woman of extraordinary accomplishment, strength, and humility." Video Watch CNN contributors discuss Obama's grandmother »

"She was the person who encouraged and allowed us to take chances. She was proud of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren and left this world with the knowledge that her impact on all of us was meaningful and enduring. Our debt to her is beyond measure."

Obama and Soetoro-Ng asked that donations be made for the search for a cure for cancer in lieu of flowers. A small private ceremony will be held "at a later date."

Dunham passed away peacefully at her home shortly before midnight Sunday night (5 a.m. ET), campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told CNN. She said Obama learned of her death around 8 a.m.

Obama's republican rival, Sen. John McCain, issued a statement Monday afternoon:

"We offer our deepest condolences to Barack Obama and his family as they grieve the loss of their beloved grandmother. Our thoughts and prayers go out to them as they remember and celebrate the life of someone who had such a profound impact in their lives."

The Democratic presidential candidate left the campaign trail on October 23 and flew to Honolulu, Hawaii, to spend the day with Dunham, whose health deteriorated after she suffered a broken hip.

His wife, Michelle Obama, filled in for him at events in Columbus and Akron, Ohio, on October 24.

Obama said in an interview taped for that day's "Good Morning America" that Dunham had been "inundated" with flowers and messages from strangers who read about her in Obama's 1995 book, "Dreams From My Father."

"Maybe she is getting a sense of long-deserved recognition toward the end of her life," he said.

The candidate resumed his campaign on October 25.
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Obama has spoken often about his grandmother -- who helped raise him -- as an integral figure in his youth and how she struggled against the glass ceiling in her career. He and his family traveled to Hawaii in August to visit her.

"She's the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life," he said in his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. "She poured everything she had into me. And although she can no longer travel, I know that she's watching tonight, and that tonight is her night as well."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/03/obama.grandma/index.html


:( something about that picture makes me teary eyed... it may have been taken in 1979, but it looks like she knew she wouldn't see the glory day of her grandson.
 
Voting problems?

Just been listening to a feature on how Florida will not be without its voting woes again.

Queues at polling stations at five or six hours or more [rarely waited five or six minutes here in the UK but perhaps i'm lucky]. And this hardly do uncommon in other parts of the States apparently. Hardly conducive for the elderly, disabled, or average worker and student too.

Why not have a more localised and...down to earth system too

Also America's embraced these electronic voting machines, which i wonder at after a recent Dutch commission found them to be unsafe.
 
What a pathetic bullshit answer from Obama and what he learned about playing HS basketball, I learned it was about the team
 
Did you watch it? He told Berman it was the basis for his ideas in his political career helping others. etc McCains answer was shit as well
 
Woah I just seen gallops polling on Nov 2nd. From what I've followed an noticed, it's always seemed to be the poll which sets the initial direction trend, the others may initially disagree but soon move towards a similar position. At the moment it has Obama on 53%, McCain on 40%. The closest poll the BBC displays has they 5% apart. This could be an absolutely savage Obama victory at this rate. The phoney war is over tomorrow anyway, we'll know for certain what the American public want. Exciting stuff, I'll be staying up to watch!
 
Woah I just seen gallops polling on Nov 2nd. From what I've followed an noticed, it's always seemed to be the poll which sets the initial direction trend, the others may initially disagree but soon move towards a similar position. At the moment it has Obama on 53%, McCain on 40%. The closest poll the BBC displays has they 5% apart. This could be an absolutely savage Obama victory at this rate. The phoney war is over tomorrow anyway, we'll know for certain what the American public want. Exciting stuff, I'll be staying up to watch!

Either that or it'll all be rigged.
 
Come on Brad, if Obama ends the war in Iraw it will be to go into Pakistan