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OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Ultimate safe gossip. You could say that about any player/club ever, and you'd nearly always be right.

There's no word from either camp regarding Wigan signing Iniesta either. All quiet on that front.
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:lol: so true
 
According to that article, Porto's Fernando as a short term option. We do need some numbers in there until the summer, not sure how good he is though.

That we were apparently still optimistic about Vidal so recently is interesting as well, wonder why that was.
 
I know we're desperate for quality in there, but I hope we don't squander £10+ million on somebody from another league as a "short-term" measure. That's as risky as leaving all the business until the summer, all things considered.

If we're going down that "take a punt" road, I'd much rather give the £10 million to somebody like Southampton for Schneiderlin, for example. At least he's proved he can cut the mustard in the Premier League.
 
nahealai said:
I know we're desperate for quality in there, but I hope we don't squander £10+ million on somebody from another league as a "short-term" measure. That's as risky as leaving all the business until the summer, all things considered.
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But if that £10m gets us champions league football so be it!! Banega would be a good snip but he doesn't offer much defensively.
 
It's not even numbers we need it's quality.
Arruda said he isn't good enough iirc. I haven't watched him personally.
 
There might not be any summer targets (or those that we deem the right quality) if we fail to make fourth. A stop gap CM signing wouldn't be too bad.
 
LR7 said:
It's not even numbers we need it's quality.
Arruda said he isn't good enough iirc. I haven't watched him personally.
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Why would we waste money on someone who is not quality? I don't understand!! We are not going to buy Scott Parker.
 
LR7 said:
It's not even numbers we need it's quality.
Arruda said he isn't good enough iirc. I haven't watched him personally.
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Obviously we don't want to sign someone shite, but a short-term option that can play for the rest of the season and then be a squad member from the summer on would be fine to me. We started yesterday with Giggs and Jones remember, and it looked leaky against Cardiff.
 
Rather get two quality CMs in the summer rather than sign someone now who is average.

We got too much average already in the squad.
 
Mainoldo said:
But if they are better than everyone bar Carrick??
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We could put a lot of average midfielders in that category. If we want that area sorted then we need world class talent in it. We already signed Fellaini, who isn't better than Carrick. Do we really want to waste money on another player like that?

Current squad with Mata now should get 4th.
 
Bojan11 said:
Rather get two quality CMs in the summer rather than sign someone now who is average.

We got too much average already in the squad.
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Agreed on this count. Although I'm not greedy, 1 top class midfielder will do.
 
Bojan11 said:
We could put a lot of average midfielders in that category. If we want that area sorted then we need world class talent in it. We already signed Fellaini, who isn't better than Carrick. Do we really want to waste money on another player like that?

Current squad with Mata now should get 4th.
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Agree again.

If we finish outside 4th it won't be because we failed to sign an average cm, it'll be because Moyes failed to get enough from the talent already at his disposal.
 
Bojan11 said:
Rather get two quality CMs in the summer rather than sign someone now who is average.
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That's fairly close to a tautological statement though. I'd rather we had a stable and defensively solid midfield for the rest of the season to allow our ridiculously good front four to flourish and to allow Jones to play in his actual position. Then signed two quality CMs in the summer.

Whether this guy is the one to achieve that I don't know, but what we put out last night wasn't.
 
Bojan11 said:
We could put a lot of average midfielders in that category. If we want that area sorted then we need world class talent in it. We already signed Fellaini, who isn't better than Carrick. Do we really want to waste money on another player like that?

Current squad with Mata now should get 4th.
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We need a player with energy and who knows how to use the ball... They do not have to be world class to have these qualities and we don't actually need a 2 world class midfielders.... In the summer our wings are what need world class injection.

Like someone already said as well... Im more about the here and now than the summer.
 
We should only sign players who will improve the team rather than liverpools former method of filling the squad up with 'bargains'
 
We have plenty of numbers in there, we don't need to waste 10+million on any old fanny.

It's like the days we spent 5-8millions on the likes of, Obertan Dong, Manucho, Diouf (obviously Bebe) and countless others who were never making it here. Would have been much better to spend £20m on a proper first teamer.
 
Okay this debate has just become stupid. I don't think anyone was suggest we spend ''£10m to get f&*King Jordan Henderson'' to sure up our midfield until the summer.. Which is basically what everyone's argument seems to be.
 
I don't see the harm in signing a stop-gap if the player is of the required quality and available for a reasonable price. Blaise Matuidi for example - out of contract in the summer and with Cabaye's signing he's likely to get less game time than he has been getting.
 
Maajid said:
I don't see the harm in signing a stop-gap if the player is of the required quality and available for a reasonable price. Blaise Matuidi for example - out of contract in the summer and with Cabaye's signing he's likely to get less game time than he has been getting.
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Why do we need a stop gap player? We signed Fellaini for a hefty 27m last summer, we've got carrick, cleverley and fletcher in the team. If you want to add another "stop gap" player then what are we going to do with all these players when we sign someone of real quality?

This summer we need to try and sign the best type of CM we possibly can, not a stop gap player.
 
Exactly, stop gaps aren't needed. Throw the kids in if necessary.

Identify our summer targets now, put down deposits, talk, bribe, offer contracts etc. just make it happen then
 
But someone like Fernando can help us right now. Think of the consequences if we dont reach the 4th spot. None of our main targets are likely to come. £10m now or a £20-25m loss because we dont make the top four.
 
RDCR07 said:
But someone like Fernando can help us right now. Think of the consequences if we dont reach the 4th spot. None of our main targets are likely to come. £10m now or a £20-25m loss because we dont make the top four.
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Will Fernando make more of a difference than Fellaini, who looks to be returning. He'd have to adapt to the premier league.
 
Bojan11 said:
Will Fernando make more of a difference than Fellaini, who looks to be returning. He'd have to adapt to the premier league.
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There is always going to be that element if a new player is going to make it or not. We will surely get him for less than £10m so its a very low risk purchase.
 
RDCR07 said:
There is always going to be that element if a new player is going to make it or not. We will surely get him for less than £10m so its a very low risk purchase.
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So what's the point? He may not even improve the team and then come summer time we're stuck with an extra midfielder on a 5 year contract without having that superstar midfielder we all want and need.

We need superstar quality, not mediocre quantity.
 
Genius Me! said:
So what's the point? He may not even improve the team and then come summer time we're stuck with an extra midfielder on a 5 year contract without having that superstar midfielder we all want and need.

We need superstar quality, not mediocre quantity.
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Short termism is often hilarious. I'm resigned to finishing outside the top four. It's a very real prospect. However, spunking money on the average is the road to ruin. It's why Liverpool are where they are. Either sign the very best or wait until you can. I hope that is how Moyes sees it, too.
 
Genius Me! said:
So what's the point? He may not even improve the team and then come summer time we're stuck with an extra midfielder on a 5 year contract without having that superstar midfielder we all want and need.

We need superstar quality, not mediocre quantity.
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I don't think it would preclude that superstar signing. If he's potentially better than any current MF we have, he'd be worth it now and it is likely he would then become a squad player and one of the existing players would be moved on. Regenerating the squad, as it were.
 
Genius Me! said:
So what's the point? He may not even improve the team and then come summer time we're stuck with an extra midfielder on a 5 year contract without having that superstar midfielder we all want and need.

We need superstar quality, not mediocre quantity.
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Because we need someone in that midfield NOW to offer something. There is absolutely nothing in our midfield right now. No creativity, no proper defensive mid, no crunching tacklers etc. We have a 6 point deficit with 15 games to go. It might look like a small gap but every point from here on in is vital.
 
Kag said:
Short termism is often hilarious. I'm resigned to finishing outside the top four. It's a very real prospect. However, spunking money on the average is the road to ruin. It's why Liverpool are where they are. Either sign the very best or wait until you can. I hope that is how Moyes sees it, too.
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My feelings summed up 100%.

Liverpool got stuck in the trap of buying players to get them into the Top 4. We should be buying players who can win us the title, the Top 4 takes care of itself then.
 
Pexbo said:
My feelings summed up 100%.

Liverpool got stuck in the trap of buying players to get them into the Top 4. We should be buying players who can win us the title, the Top 4 takes care of itself then.
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Liverpool didn't have Mata, Rooney and RVP. Liverpool's probably is that they brought potential players who they thought would develop into class players, problem was they was always only going to be 'good' players. This has nothing to do with us buying 'one' midfielder with extra much needed quality.
 
Hell, just put in massive bid for Kroos tomorrow and (nearly) everyone will be happy.
 
Thing is, all our current cms are basically stop gap as they are either the wrong quality or age. Signing another player in that bracket will only offer minor improvement (or may not improve us at all). Another stop gap signing would be pretty pointless.

One thing it would definitely do is further clutter the squad. We already know we need one or two top cms. Add another stop gap and we're adding two or three players. Where is the room in our squad? Fellaini definitely isn't leaving, Cleverley probably isn't either. Are we happy to jettison either Fletcher or Carrick?

That's all assuming our squad numbers stay the same. If Moyes decides he wants a smaller squad then we have even less use for more relatively ordinary players.

We already have enough dross without adding more and that's exactly what someone who is "better than everyone we have bar Carrick" would be.
 
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