Are you ok mate? You paint a bleak future. I think this will be the best transfer window for us since Hargreaves Nani Tevez.....
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Are you ok mate? You paint a bleak future. I think this will be the best transfer window for us since Hargreaves Nani Tevez.....
Cabaye Strootman and or Matic would have improved us massively and were all available
I hope not. The players from our best transfer window turned out to be duds, injured or cnuts.
It was a very exciting and we went on to have our most exciting/successful period ever at united. It was great looking at the bench that year with so many options compared to what we have now it is embarrassing!
I like the Caf sometimes.
When we sign a player it's nothing to do with Woodward. When we miss out on a target, it's obviously to do with Woodward.
Make it sound like you don't in general.
Yeah i'm fine mate - thanks for asking
I hate to be bleak as you say, but our situation isnt ideal man. LvG wasnt our 1st choice thats for sure & its most likely for the reasons i mentioned - WC & him not starting the job proper til mid-July.
When we've got dosh to spunk - spunk it on top-class players & pay them the going-rate of wages for their ilk - not potential top-class players or Dutch 30-somethings that have fecked us round either!
I like the look of a couple of players that have come up under the radar - especially that Ukraine winger. He'd be wicked at United. I'm open to alternatives of course, but we need a monopoly of established world-class players coming in this window. We have the money - so spend it & get rid of the deadwood.
I'd tear my hair out if we line up on the 1st day of the season with Young on a wing, "Clevz" in CM, Buttner at LB & Fellaini playing in the hole
We need to be ready to go on paper when the season starts!
This thread and i should have realised it on the first page never mind 119 pages in just cements what i have always known- journo's know nothing when it comes to utd and transfers. So wide of the mark so often its become a joke.
and yet the most blame the club and not the journos.
Yup 'oooh we missed out on this player or that player what utd playing at'
When in essence we were never in for 99% of the people the press link us with.
That would have been a game changer big time...
Cant blame Moyes goin for Fabregas & Herrera tho. Those two would have made a difference, but we wasted too much time on them & it didnt help that Ed was on the tour with us doin his promotional thing - when thats not his brief anymore.. Cabaye & Strootman would have been wicked. I hate to even think about what could have been, then again Moyes had no idea what he was doin, but i doubt any of those 2 could have been as bad as Cleverley.
I'm just sick to death (like most fans) of the same old excuses for us not gettin players in. We've no CM's apart from Carrick & Fletch & those 2 are off form or dealing with illness recovery, so we need a complete overhaul - atleast 3 CM's in & use the U-21 & youth team players to bed in throughout the season. I'd love to see Ben Pearson gettin a run of games as a sub & then a starter. There's too many to mentioned of course, but he's a wonderful CM & i'm liking him to a Scholesy type player too.. Check him out if you have seen him play on mutv. Youtube will probably have vids on him to be honest..
It was at that time. Just goes to show that the spending money and buying top talents doesn't guarantee to a great squad or team in the long run. That transfer window is somewhat responsible for the current state of our midfield and wings.
First time in years we spend money to match Chelsea's spending and end up with Nani, Tevez, Anderson, Hargreaves, Kuszczak and Possebon. Then we go on to replace Tevez with another dud in Berbatov.
They're all pissing in the wind. Then one journo makes a claim, citing "club insiders" and they all run with it so that they appear to be in on the info.
Spot on.
Did Kroos not just come out & say he was never coming to United, as soon as it was bein reported that LvG pulled the plug?
Did Thiago not join Bayern the day after we said we were never interested or some shit like that?
Some players we had to be in for & those two mentioned, we were in for from what i've read & from what my Tarot cards & Ouiija read on Monday night too!
The thing is that we all agreed that to achieve the level of recruitment that the club was aiming for then we'd need to make some signings before the WC. That's basically gone out of the window now.
We're not going to be able to play catch up in the time left after the WC.
We're not going to be able to play catch up in the time left after the WC.
Did Thiago not say we never formally made an offer? Not denying we were in for Kroos. We obviously were- but journos were saying it was almost done when it never was.
Basically no one knows anything!! Which is good. We'll see who we get Woodward can not afford another window like last summer... He has his targets and he will get the majority of them. If Kroos is a priority with his current contract situation I'm sure we will complete a deal.
I can't remember us ever making signings before the World Cup so what's the worry?
He has to have a good window this time. He is making a rod for his own back. He should go about his business quietly. The number of good sources citing the same players on our hit list indicates that Woodward or a close aide have been talking to the press a lot.
In my opinion there was definitely something in the Kroos deal. It is likely that Kroos was using us a a negotiating tool for his desired contract and perhaps there is a slight chance that he did want the move. We had Moyes sat with his agent and Kroos was asked the question in interviews himself, he always allowed the story to rumble on.
I think what he said yesterday is reactive. If he has to stay at Bayern for another year at least then he needs to save face in front of the fans, add to that United claiming that he is now unwanted. I think that both parties were looking at saving face for what looks like a botched plan on both sides.
Reputable journalists report what they are told by knowledgeable sources. That does not mean that the information is cast iron. A transfer can change direction several times in a day when several parties are trying to capture a highly valuable commodity like a footballer. The deal makers for each club are always going to be bullish and 'confident' about making a deal. People at that level of salesmanship and brokering have to be.
As we all know, it all comes down to monies....
Erm LVG has already given Woodward his list of players he wants and doesn't want. There is no "double jobbing" mate.
Its funny how players always release these statements AFTER the saga is over.
Reading the meltdown over the last few pages you'd think Fabregas and Kroos were the only two midfielder's in the world.
To be fair, they are the two best slightly realistic options out there.
I see Clasie being mentioned a lot. Is there anything to suggest we are in for him or is it simply because he's Dutch?
RHD's post can basically be summed up as "sign my favourite players, not yours!"
feck off Kroos.
His Dad said that alright, but an "agreement in principle" can be made well before the transfer window opens & it seems its reared its ugly head with Kroos also.. Same thing happened with Garay & Strootman too - Moyes didnt folow through & make the offer to buy any of those three.
To be honest man, you never know whats went on with these things, but its always up to you to make your own judgements. I heard about those deals that were vetoed by Moyes by many sources - moreso after Moyes was sacked. There was nothing to gain by that info coming out then, apart from the seeming fact that the press didnt want to get him sacked by saying anything while he was doing the impossible job..
Of course - fantasy football dream team. I dont think too many of the United faithful would disagree with my wishlist to be honest. Surely you must have one aswell Mr. Gull?
It's early doors. I don't think we immediately need 2 or 3 of the worlds top midfielders, nor should we even start thinking that it's going to happen.
CM has been such a shambles I'd take a couple of fit midfielders that can actually run. Set your standards low in life and you'll never be disappointed!
CM has been such a shambles I'd take a couple of fit midfielders that can actually run. Set your standards low in life and you'll never be disappointed!
They supposedly shared lists & drew up a compromise - moreso in LvG's favour. Shaw wasnt on LvG's list as far as i know & he may well drop that deal dead in the water also. Van Gaal also said that he wont have any problem doing both jobs during the World Cup - thats impossible & annoying if you're Dutch!
It's cause he's Dutch. He's been more strongly linked with Swansea. Make of that what you will.
Or set them as high as you can & you'll have no regrets...
Mate nobody really has any idea who was on Van Gaals mythical list. Unless you're confident Jamie Jackson has any idea what is going on at the club, in which case Shaw was at number 1.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...united-top-10-transfer-targets-louis-van-gaal
It annoys me that we're linked with all these players in the Dutch national team, when most of them i'd never heard of - nevermind seen them play. I'd never heard of Buttner until we were on the verge of signing him & he isnt even an adequate LB back-up.
The Dutch league may have a few gems that can be unearthed of course, but we need established players this summer & give the youth within the ranks a chance - not talkin a punt of an average foreign lad with potential - we have United potential already!
Then next summer we can buy whoever Everton replace McCarthy with for twice the amount they paid! Genius!
This is already becoming very worrying.
I already said that i did an Ouiija board & Tarot cards the other night & Shaw was not mentioned as part of LvG's list.. He'd more chance of being on Schindlers list goin from what the other-side pointed out!
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